So this is the end
DH and I are getting a divorce. I can no longer handle the fact that he will not set appropraite boundaries with his ex wife. This has been going on for five years. She has stalked my BD when she was five and DH told me not to do anything because he didn't want to p!ss her off and she might go after him for child support. She stalked him and he did nothing about it. She has called CPS on him and filed false child abuse allegations. She has harassed us for the last five years, badmouths DH to their kids, effs him over every chance she gets, threatens him, bullies him, lies and manipulates him and he does nothing. Doesn't set appropriate boundaries with her and puts us right back into situations where we get effed like he's the only one living this life.
DH and I made an agreement after BM tried to steal Christmas morning from him last year that she wouldnt get any time for his week of Christmas this year. What does he do? He turns around and makes an agreement with BM behind my back and gives her the kids on Christmas Eve because and I quote, "it's what's in the best interest of the kids". Are you effing kidding me? So if BM doesn't bring the kids back on their agreed upon time then calling the police on their mother while they are with her on SD's bday which happens to Christmas Eve is in the best interest of the kids? She's done this type of thing before when he gave her time on his week to spend with the kids on a holiday. I was always under the impression that protecting children from sh!t like that was in their best interest. And if the thought of having to call the police because of a decision that you made crosses your mind before you make the decision then don't do it. It's not worth the risk.
Of course he sees nothing wrong with what he did. Any agreement made with his wife is BS and he'll do as he damn well pleases regardless. Infact he doesn't even think that I have the right to pissed about any of this and claims that he has done nothing to piss me off. In about two weeks BM is going to rain down 25k worth of hell on (would've been us) on him and he doesn't understand why I'm upset. We shouldn't be in the same effing situation with her that we were in five years ago. That's my effing problem. The sheer fact that this has been going on for effing five years is what makes me upset and he refuses to set boundaries with her that prevent her from putting us in these types of situations. Infact, he gives her the opportunity to pull her sh!t willingly (case in point Christmas Eve).
We have fought about this for years. I have fought for us for years. Even after he promised me that we would have a child together and then told me other wise a year later I still stayed with him out of love. After he told me that we would have a child after we paid the credit card off and then went out behind my back and racked up another 4500 of debt on it, I still stayed with him. I loved him enough to push aside the one thing that I wanted the most for him and for us and he can't even cut the umbilical cord to his ex wife.
He has told me more than once to leave him when we fight about this and I have come to the conclusion that he still has feelings or something for her. There's something there. I don't know if it's because of how abussive she was to him and that's why he reacts the way he does with her and lets her pull her sh!t all of the time and never does anythigng about it. He would rather I leave him then deal with his ex wife and get her to a point where she no longer can run amuck in our life. He would rather keep his ex wife in his life and let me leave then do what needs to be done in order to get her to stop.
He of course disagrees with this and has proceeded to call me crazy as well as other things because that's just absured. To me, it's the only thing that makes since. Why would someone allow someone else to terrorize their life and not do anything about it and then tell his wife to leave because she wants him to set boundaries in the situation so that the drama goes down severly because she's effing upset about it. He tells me it's because he just doesn't care and that it doesn't affect him. WTF!! I have watched this man bawl over some of the effed up sh!t this lady has done to him (the CPS thing). And if it bothers me, which it does, then is should matter to him and he should do everything in his power to make it stop. But he won't. And how her stalking my BD when she was five didn't bother him is beyond me unless he's just never cared about her to begin with. I am not asking him to have no contact with her or to cut her out of the picture. What I am asking is that he gets the situation under control by any means possible so that it quits putting stress on our marriage and our life together. That's it. That's all. And he won't do it. He refuses to do it.
Am I wrong here ladies? Am I as crazy as DH thinks I am?
I know for a fact that if we agreed upon something and then I made other arrangements that went against that agreement he would have my a$$ on a platter. In fact just this past weekend, I let my BD off of grounding not even a day earlier. It was the night before she would have gotten off (Saturday) and she had been grounded since thrusday so that we could watch the new Superman movie and what does he do? Refuses to put the movie on until my BD leaves the room and then finally goes into SS's room with SS to watch it becaue he knew we wouldn't follow him. Then before he leaves the room he proceeds to explain to SS in front of me and my BD that GameOn and DH made an agreement and he is going to make sure that the agreement is met. SS is 6. WTF is that? Um....we never made an agreement and I have lost track of the amount of times he has let his kids off a punishment early after we talked about it or just didn't do anything after we agreed that he would. Who does that type of a thing? Not to mention the picture of his a$$ that he texted me in response to my texts and then he even got in my face being passive aggressive in front of the kids. And he has no clue why I am pissed off and thinks that he has done no wrong and I'm the crazy one who is just mad because and I quote, "I am an unhappy person".
About six months after we first met I got pregnant. I made a choice to terminate that preganacy (not proud and it haunts me everyday. I wish I would of never done it). I made that choise because he couldnt afford another child and neither could I and we both knew that it would ruin our relationship. So I made the choice out of my love for him, my desire to see us work, and his promise that we would have a child together in the future. I live with the guilt everyday of my life. It has destroyed me. Wrecked me emotionally. I have never recovered from that choice and I don't think that I ever will. And what did I do it for? I have sacraficed my morals and eithics for him, my dreams, and anything else that I needed to sacrafice in order to make us work and I can even get him to let go of his ex wife. And he doesn't even care. He esentailly told me to eff off and that I'm crazy and to have a nice life when I brought it up. Oh and then he called me cruel. I asked him, since I'm cruel, exactly what assessment he has done on himself and what classification that he fits into. He didn't answer that question.
I'm just at a completel loss here. I don't understand what's going on. And I don't understand why he doesn't love me enough to fix things.
He has no problems telling me to eff off or to shut the eff up and then does nothing to his ex when she pulls her sh!t. Then when asked about this he tells me that he does it because he loves me and there's no need to say or do anything towards his ex because he doesn't love her anymore. He has called the police on me and accused me of stealing his stuff (it was actually gifts that his parents had gotten me for birthdays and Christmas), then talked his mother into telling me that she actually bought those things for the house. The only thing that stopped me from getting arrested for felony theft (the stuff was over 500 dollars) is the fact that he was inviolation of his probabtion for his DUI because he was drunk. If he wasn't on probabtion, I would have gone to jail for felony theft. His mother would have vouched for him and said it was his stuff. Once I told DH that he was in violation of his probabtion he couldn't get those cops off of his property fast enouth. Funny that he doesn't want to get himself in trouble for probation vilation and lying to the police but he has not problem sending my a$$ to jail based on a lie that he told. Oh and the reason he did it was because he didn't want me to leave him. Atleast that's what he told me.
This whole situation is nuts. It's so stressful on me. I just don't know what to do. What type of person behaves this way and does these things? And why do I never get the right to be upset about any of it?
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And why can't he understand
And why can't he understand that it's my life too? It's not just about him and what he wants. The choices that he makes affects the both of us. He just can't seem to process it. To him it makes no since.
(((((HUGS))))))) Yep been
(((((HUGS))))))) Yep been through all of that. Guilty Daddy would always use the excuse of "taking the high road" and "it's best for the kids" (translation: It's best to placate the BM to keep her quiet.) Funny how placating the BM NEVER works and just emboldens her to continue pushing the envelope. Good for you to find this out now instead of 10, 15, 20 years later! Then sGRANDkids!!
hate that it came to
hate that it came to this...so sorry (((hugs))...stay strong....
Please run as fast as you can
Please run as fast as you can and do not have regrets.
Am I wrong here? Am I
Am I wrong here? Am I comptletly out of line for thinking that he needs to set boundaries with his ex wife? Am I completely wrong with thinking that he is still attached to his ex wife?
You are NOT wrong. Lots of
You are NOT wrong. Lots of men these days like to "ride the backs of TWO horses" They want their cake and eat it too. Keep placating the BM all the while treating SM like shit and thinking that she will just accept it because she is SOOOO in LURVE with biodad (TM).
"Your DH is a weak man"
"Your DH is a weak man"
EXCELLENT point!!!! Guilty Daddy likes to be EXTREMELY "macho" and has even put his hands on me in sheer rage--blaming me for PASing out his "angels." VERY VERY weak!! Would NEVER say BOO to the BM, though and is scared SH!TLESS of her.
" He has no problems telling
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He has no problems telling me to eff off or to shut the eff up and then does nothing to his ex when she pulls her sh!t."
Yep pretty typical--SM is used as the emotional punching bag because it's too risky to do that to the BM and "affect his relationship with the kids" (TM) Dirty little secret is that if standing up to the BM means she trashes him in front of the kids (and she'll do it anyways REGARDLESS of whether he stands up to her or NOT) then she shouldn't HAVE CUSTODY as that is ABUSE!
Nope, they will NEVER get it. DO NOT 2nd guess yourself. He would love nothing more than to make YOU think that YOU are wrong and crazy (see the movie "Gaslight")
He would never take custody
He would never take custody of his kids away from her. He thinks that it's in the best interest of the kids to have her in their lives. So that will never happen. Even when we have evidence that would most likely sway the courts in his favor he won't do anything about it.
I really don't think that one has anything to do with BM. I think that he enjoys not having his kids around for half the year. That's the only thing that makes since. Why would you let your kids be around someone who is mentally unstable and proves that every three months.
I hear you. Same thing here.
I hear you. Same thing here. Guilty Daddy knows deep down that his three "angels" are not really "good kids." He has told me he has no desire to have them come over, never mind live with us. They are budding felons due to zero parenting.
All three have PASed out so I'm left with a brooding, grieving alcoholic who pretends that everything will turn out just fine. But I"m sure if they said the magic words "I hate mom and want to live with YOU" (notice I didn't say YOU and thinkthrice--it's my house after all--he would say "SURE" and go back to living with them skipping school, the disrespect, the ass kissing, you name it would start all over again.
The main thing here is RUN LIKE THE WIND away from this SOCIOPATH!!
You are not wrong at all. You
You are not wrong at all. You have put up with too much. You will be much happier without him and BM.
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I'm so sorry hun. I don't
I'm so sorry hun. I don't know your religion but you and your BD are in my prayers. You are not wrong, never think that. You need to be happy not just for you but for your BD as well.
Oh hon, I'm so sorry for all
Oh hon, I'm so sorry for all you've been through. I don't think you're wrong for leaving him and not just because he won't set boundaries with the ex. That's a big one, yes, but it sounds like there are a number of reasons you should leave. I hope you're in a position to support yourself and your child/children without him. You have no support from him or his family and the thing about not protecting your daughter and trying to get you arrested are so blatantly dangerous to your well being I think it would be very unwise to stay with him.
Bless your heart, you've put up with a lot No one can fault you for not trying, enough is enough.
If you only remember one
If you only remember one thing: THIS IS HIS PROBLEM NOT YOURS. This is a defect in HIM, not you.
He probably still has feelings for BM. No matter what, he definitely has NOT matured past the age of, oh about 13 or so!
Who does shit like that to someone they supposedly "love" and then call that person an "unhappy person." REALLY, EINSTEIN?!?
I was in a verbally abusive relationship and it will break your soul if you don't watch it. Here is a list of "Basic Rights in a Relationship" (romantic) that I will repost for you here:
BASIC RIGHTS IN A RELATIONSHIP
The right to goodwill from the other
The right to emotional support
The right to be heard by the other and responded to with courtesy
The right to have your own view, even if your mate has a different view
The right to have your feelings and experience acknowledged as real
The right to receive a sincere apology for any jokes you find offensive
The right to clear and informative answers to questions that concern what is legitimately your business
The right to live free from accusations and blame
The right to live free of criticism and judgment
The right to have your work and your interests spoken of with respect
The right to encouragement
The right to live free from emotional or physical threat
The right to live free from angry outbursts and rage
The right to be called by no name which devalues you
The right to be respectfully asked rather than ordered
This is from the book, "The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans
It's not that I have issues
It's not that I have issues with setting boundaries. It's that it's taken me this long to realize that I can't make him love me, care about my feelings, or listen to me. I can't stop or change how he interacts with this ex wife, how he parents his kids, or how his ex wife interacts with us. But what I can do is set boundaries for myself. One of the boundaries that I set is that he will deal with his drama this year in a way that benefits our household and quit getting us into situations where we get effed by his ex wife by any means possible. Now if that means turning her in for extortion, two counts of stalking, five years of documented harrassment, six counts of contemt, welfare fraud (which she tried to involve us in and makes me in violation of law for not doing anything or reporting her), medicaid fraud, tax fraud, or anything else that's illegal that she's done then so be it. She's making the choice for it to get to that point with him by not listening to him. It's out of our control. We can't make her stop but we can have the law explain all of this to her. But he won't do it. He'll have me arrested but not BM for ACTUALLY breaking the law. Infact he has told me that if I address anyof this with her he will leave me and has blamed all of her attacks on him on me. It's always my fault. I mean it has nothing to do with the fact that she's nuts. It's all me right? So because he won't set boundaries with her I have set them with him. Either fix it or we're over. I will not be a part of they craziness anymore regardless of whether or not he thinks that it's crazy. And he has made his choice.
He is an abusive asshole and
He is an abusive asshole and you should have left long ago.
You deserve MUCH better than this!
LEAVE before he kills more than your self esteem, time and soul!
Honey, he has used you. Now
Honey, he has used you. Now stop being used, plan your exit and MOVE! Do not go back. Do not look back. Spend 2 years on your own with your daughter. Show her that she doesn't need to be in a relationship to be a person of value. You do not stay in a relationship and be treated like crap for 'love'.
Read about co-dependency. Because reading over your list of behaviours it is just crazy anyone would actually consider this a good relationship.
Does BM win? No she doesn't win. HE loses. HE loses the best darned thing that ever happened to him and he is too stupid to see it. Who wants to be married to 'stupid'?
As for the termination ... as bad as your feel at least you are not tied to him forever with a child. We live and learn.
Hugs!!!
{{{{Hugs}}}} This is so hard.
{{{{Hugs}}}}
This is so hard. Best of luck to you with whatever you decide.