You are here

SS18, lies, and the ANGER

DarkStar's picture

I can't stand to even be in the same room with this kid, I'm so sick of his crap.  

SS18 has chosen to bomb his senior year and not do anything to prepare for his future automotive education in the fall.  No job, no drivers license, no plans to go to auto school at our excellent community college in the fall.  Since the rules of the house are that after high school you must either be enrolled in school or some kind of trade/apprenticeship/program and be working part-time.  Since SS18 isn't doing either of those, he cannot live with us so BM has agreed to take SS18 in after graduation.

Yesterday was N8's birthday, my dad came over for pizza and cake.  He knows the deal with SS18 and I overheard Dad asking SS18 about a job, future plans, etc.......SS18 starts talking about how he is going to take a year off and work so he can save up and go back to school and doesn't have to take out any student loans, blah blah blah......sounds nice, right?  Except it's a BIG FAT LIE!!!!  After the festivities and all company was gone, I confronted SS18 and said, "Wow, so that was a nice bowl of BS that you gave my Dad about going to school."  Blank stare from SS18.  I ask "How is it that you are working to save money for school and avoid student loans when your Dad was going to pay for it?"  Another blank stare.  I say, "I know it's embarrassing to admit you blew it off and aren't going, but you will not be allowed to LIE and make people think that it's because your Dad won't pay for it!"  SS18 says, "I never said that Dad won't pay for school!"  I say, "You are INSINUATING that your Dad won't pay, and it's a LIE!"  Then SS18 says, "Well, I want to pay for it so Dad won't have to."  I say "ANOTHER LIE!!!!!  You just made that up!"  DH paid for cc college for SD24 and would have for SD20 but she chose not to go.

DH in the meantime, is trying to get me to calm down and says that maybe SS18 or my Dad misunderstood or that I misheard......oh HELL NO!!!!  No one mistook or misheard or misunderstood anything!!!!!  I ended the conversation with telling both SS18 and DH that I will not allow SS18 to tell lies and throw his father under the bus for his own poor decisions.  That I will CORRECT SS18 whenever he tries this story again and if he is embarrassed in front of others......good, he should be embarrassed!  

And I talked to my Dad today........he WAS wondering why DH wasn't going to pay for school for SS18....I cleared that right up.  I'm still so freaking mad about this.  I am working so hard on this disengagement thing......I don't look/ask at grades, tardies, absences from school, getting a job, getting a drivers license, automotive school....nothing that doesn't affect my life, livelihood, or home.  But I will NOT sit back and let this kid tell lies about DH.  Grrrrrrr.........I'm so ANGRY all the dang time.  I hate it.  I hate feeling this way, I hate feeling grumpy, I hate wanting to put SS18's head through a wall every time I see him.  I'm at the point where I'm telling SS18 today that if he is not doing school work, looking for a job, getting his drivers license, or preparing for his future in anyway that he needs to be out of my face and out of the way.  He sits at the table and plays with his phone 24/7 when he's not in school.  I just can't stand it.

Comments

CLove's picture

So, since BM is taking this on at graduation, skid thinks its ok to hang around on YOUR dime. Sort of flaunting his laziness at you. He probably knows hes pushing all your buttons and since there are no repercussions, continues to up the ante.

Yep, sounds familiar.

ndc's picture

Maybe you should hang a big countdown calendar on the refrigerator. You're lucky he's leaving soon.

Rags's picture

Tell him he had better be reporting for Basic/BMT/Bootcamp the day after graduation or start saving for a sleeping bag and a cheap tent to live in at the local highway overpass because his lies, lazy, manipulative crap means he will be homeless the next night.  Tell him his graduation gift will be his carboard panhandling sign.

My SS-30 got a few months after HS graduation because he graduated at 17. The day after his B-day, we started the seasoning him with recruiting brochures push.

It took making him our unpaid live in full time chore boy 7 days a week for 3mos before he enlisted in the USAF in the delayed entry program then we kept working him 7 days a week for 4more more months before we dropped him off at MEPS to ship out to BMT.

In two weeks he will reach his 12yr service anniversary. He is up for E-7 this year.  He has 2yrs remaining on his current commitment and intends to do at least 20yrs then retire and go to a private sector career.  He can retire from the USAF at about the same time I intend to retire retire. He will be 38. I will be 67.

His mom and I are very proud of the  man we raised to viable adulthood. 

1st3rd5thWEInHell's picture

Out of the 4 kids my husband has, first one has a high school diploma but decided to do OF instead of college although my husband offered to help, second is illiterate and cant even pass a GED test, now at home at 21, 3rd is a high school drop out with a GED working at a fast food place part time, 4th is a middle school drop out in juvenile

All parents involved dropped out of school and had GEDs except for one BM who doesnt have a GED, 0 skills and lives off child support and parents

 

Life is hard but dogs dont make cats. If their parents are illiterate drop outs, dont have any expectations

 

The steps cost us more in bail than in education at this pt. Perhaps it would be easier if you set up a bail or adult support fund because you will be in this for the long haul if they have no skills or work ethic to complete basic high school education

PushedToMyLimit's picture

My SO has a 19yo loser son who barely graduated (SO just cut ties with him) and a 9yr old who lives with us which I could see following the same pattern as he has a lot of the same qualities. BM is dumber than a post & is a counter-parent. I have already told my SO if the 9yr old starts down the same path as the 19yr old I'm out, I won't do it again. 

1st3rd5thWEInHell's picture

Bless you for handling these menchildren 

I dont survive, I merely exist. This morning, i listened to my husband rant and rant and rant about his childrens poor behavior...When I tried to give insight, he argued with me. So I had a whole morning ruined and everything fired against me

These parents turn against you when their children fail....Meanwhile the BMs are living it up

PushedToMyLimit's picture

My SO knows his kids are losers & if he wasn't on the same page as me we'd be done. It's sad for him & he wants to disagree with me but he isn't blind. To add insult to injury, he didn't want a 2nd kid. BM dumped the 9yr old to live with us 3 years ago with a weeks notice & moved out of state. He has so many issues from the neglect, abandonment, lies and now her randomly showing back up I don't even know where to start. What a mess.

1st3rd5thWEInHell's picture

Thats a big proponent of your sanity if he is realistic. Mine knows that they flunked school and are headed down the wrong path but he believes he can help them and fix them. The 21yo works for him now in his company but has consistently complained that daddy doesnt pay enough. This is a person who has no experience, no GED and a 9th grade level education....he laughs and calls himself "illiterate" and says its not his fault (sometimes its the schools fault, other times its BMs....i cant keep track of his excuses). Of course BMs are on a pedestal and "did their best" (all children were/are constantly truant in school)

 

BM did the same thing as yours. She dumped the 21yo on our doorstep to live with us at 14 but never wanted to change the custody agreement....the same night he was dropped off, he had a full blown panic attack about his mommy and crying....

He moved back two years later....couldnt handle having to go to school and read and do chores. He has many issues.....now with us at 21yo but looks at his mother like a saint smh meanwhile BM was living it up and refused to change the order so child support kept adding up and my dummy husband was just sitting there instead of going to court

Hope for you the 9yo becomes independent in his adulthood but its looking bleak from what you are sharing with us

Rags's picture

Nea

People like this have to be left to rot in jail and when they get out they go to the local homeless camp under the Interstate overpass or in the underground tunnels of the city.

Only when they hit rock bottom and realize that they are where they are due to their choices and lack of effort, do they have any chance of improving their lives.

IMHO of course.

1st3rd5thWEInHell's picture

I think the ones in the homeless camps are probably smarter and more capable than my steps but just been dealt bad cards in life lol

Mine are straight up entitled and illiterate smh

It would be a miracle if they manage to be independent in life at any pt....My husband is totally delusional and thinks he can help them achieve that

 

I personally wouldnt pay 1 red cent towards letting any of these wild creatures out but my husband believed that he is doing his best to give his children a fighting chance and not end up in the system....completely delusional and wasting his money away

Now looking for lawyers to help fight charges on top of the thousands in child support and is afraid to tell his ex that she is responsible for legal representation of the children according to the court order

Harry's picture

Moving supplies, for SS 18 move to BM.   Find nice pretty, motivating Box's.  Interesting tape,  hangers. To replace the ones he used.   Idea to redo  his room .  Woman cave.   

Merry's picture

I did well in high school and had solid college plans, but my parents still gave me a set of luggage for my high school graduation gift. The message was clear.

Rags's picture

planet he wanted to on us. But once he graduated from HS he had to be some balance of full time student/part time student/part time worker to maintain our support.

In hind sight. I am very proud of how well he knew himself. He told us that he understood a university education was important and that he would do it but he was not ready to put on the focus and effort.  If he allowed us to force him into it on our terms it would be a waste of his time and our money.

So, we realighned. He could live at home on the same conditions but if he did nto go to school/work... he was our unpaid live in beck and call boy/chore bitch.  We worked that kid's ass off until he enlisted in the USAF and shipped off to BMT 7mos and 1wk after his 18th B-day.

Finding the right burning platform to get a hesitant kid to launch is part of parenting successfully. IMHO.

On April 11 he will celebrate his 12th service anniversary. He has 3 years left on his current obligation and will, barring any unforeseen events, serve at least until he reaches full retirement benefits at 20 years. He has an Associate's degree and is working on finishing his BS.  A little slower than is mom and I would like, but he is getting there.

We are proud of the man our son is.

He did struggle to finish HS on time. The message was, come back from graduation  with a HS diploma or ... .grab your new Walmart pup tent, new boots, new coat, McD's gift card and we will drop you off at the homeless camp.  That message was highlighted by a drive to the homeless camp under the interstate in Philly several months before graduation. I dropped him off to meet his potential new neighbors for a few hours. I pulled around the block and parked where I could clearly see him. Those homeless heroes where amazing. They welcomed him, fed him, and climbed his ass for being stupid.  When I picked him up he was bug eyed and shaking. They had basically given him clarity to pull his head out and graduate on time.

Ultimately he graduated on time and with honors.  

We had nearly another year of failure to launch issues with him, but he got there very successfully. Eventually.