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Apparently I need to try harder.

Sunshine1992's picture

So my bf had his brother over the other day and it was my first time meeting. We were talking about a lot of things and the ss15 came up. Brother agreed with my about discipline issues, he was completely appalled th that my bf allowed ss 2 months of vacation at the beach after failing school and having to repeat 8th grade for the third time. 

theyre Mediterranean and very passionate ppl but there was no anger per se in the conversation. Basically brother tells me I need to sit the kid down and tell him I'm here for him for anything and "give him my heart" etc. this irritated me because it's been a year that I've been attempting to give this kid conversation and he literally only gives one word answers. People love to say "oh he's shy" no, he's not shy because he's open with friends, what happens is he has no interest in people who can't give him somethng. I guess bf doesn't care that I've cleaned his room multiple times, done his dishes, laundry, offered to help him with homework, and paid for his birthday presents and given him treats and junk food that he likes numerous times. Ugh 

 

anyway apart from venting I just want to know,  who thinks I need to sit down and pour my heart out to a kid who never talks to me? I'm just not super excited about making that kind of effort only to be rejected. Again. 
 

 

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Sunshine1992's picture

I meant I guess ss doesn't care what I've done for him at the end of 2nd paragraph, not bf.

justmakingthebest's picture

I am with Gimlet. It isn't your job to be a parent to this kid! It's 100% on the actual parents. You have already gone above and beyond.

Relationships should develop naturally, if SS isn't interested, so be it. If you aren't interested anymore- Oh well! Not your kid! 

thinkthrice's picture

"SM needs to TRY HARDER"  (TM)  Patent Pending.  

GAG!  Failing disengagement,  "throw this one back" as is the popular expression.

Sunshine1992's picture

Lol, your comment is funny, we always have to try harder don't we??!!

 

then he says I don't have tact with children. Uhhhh IM A TEACHER!!

ImFreeAtLast's picture

How can you possibly love or respect this man anymore? He allowed his kid to fail a grade three times? His son will never leave home. Throw this rotten fish back in the sea for the sharks to devour and cast your line out for a shiny, handsome fish with no parasites.

Sunshine1992's picture

Let me just say I'm a fan of your analogy. lol.

well love is a strong force but I am losing respect and I am losing optimism that this man genuinely wants to be in an equal partnership and lift each other up. Thanks for your input !

Winterglow's picture

The brother is an idiot. What good does he think that will do? 

As for them being Mediterranean, they clearly pick and choose what they've "inherited". If any Mediterranean disrespected their grandmother or aunt the way your SS does, he would be made to be sorry ASAP! You do not disrespect your elders! 

Winterglow's picture

Why are you cleaning, doing laundry, and spending money on/for a kid that isn't yours?  Please stop that immediately!

Sunshine1992's picture

Right? Your point is very valid. The father wasn't there so he doesn't believe his life elderly mother. So I find that very toxic, this kid can literally do no wrong until he gets in trouble with teschers and dad screams his head off for 10 minutes then apologizes and no follow up on homework/ school behavior is done. 

CLove's picture

You are in for a long dreary time of it if you follow the brothers advice.

Stop doing for the kid.

Really consider if this is the right relationship for you. 

His kid is a jerk. Do you really want to support him after 22 and he still hasnt graduated high school?

They dont change they get worse if the parents are failing their job as parents.

Sunshine1992's picture

Yes I am highly considering my options. Love the man but I'm very tired and it's only been one year. I want things in life and I don't think he is showing me that he will be my teammate to try and get the kind of life that I want. 
 

god, my mind is blown at how some parents are so oblivious to how their kids are. When he tells me "when you get to know him you'll see what a great awesome guy he is" and I'm like uhhh no. He is an average kid at best. Rose colored glasses are definitely a thing 

Harry's picture

Is you have a BF who a lousy parent.  Allowing his DS to be failer.  He has no common sense.  Then you have a FSS who does not care about repeating 8th grade three times,  does not care what his school mates think of him. 
 

You should take a long hard look at this relationship,  there has to be other future issues.  

Sunshine1992's picture

Im currently working on that. Love is not enough and it's not always the path to happiness. Thanks for your input. 

Merry's picture

"Try harder" makes me crazy. My ex came from an Italian family (but he's second generation born in the US). He had an anger issue and frequently told me "that's just the way he is" because he's a fiery Italian. And I had to learn to deal with it. (Apparently Italian men can't control themselves?) Well, eff that. His anger frightened me and that's just the way I was, so why didn't HE have to accept that? No, I was the one who had to try harder. Notice he is now my ex.

Go for cordial. That's it. Leave the parenting to his dad.

Sunshine1992's picture

They're Greek and bf always  tries to use that bs against me. Meanwhile the sister has Two wonderful kids 17 and 20 who are working during the summer and passing school and nice sweet kids. Like please, we don't live in bass ackwards land. 

Thumper's picture

Thank GOD he is only a boyfriend.

Miss,  pack up your stuff and run...fast. Far from this guy.

Oh, and do not look back either.

Be safe, ok?

 

hereiam's picture

I've cleaned his room multiple times, done his dishes, laundry, offered to help him with homework, and paid for his birthday presents and given him treats and junk food that he likes numerous times

The only thing that you need to try harder at, is disengaging.

Give him your heart? I don't think so.

Sunshine1992's picture

Thank you all because I feel so freaking validated! 
 

ive already been thinking about the situation a lot and I appreciate the space to vent. I'm definitely going to stop and highly considering moving out because I don't feel like my partner wants to make a lot of effort to make me feel comfortable in the situation. 
 

Thanks again a lot for taking the time to offer your very valid advice. 

Kes's picture

When my SDs were in their mid teens, I got a message from NPD BM via DH that I needed to "make more of an effort" with them.  This despite the fact that NPD BM had spent 10 yrs PAS'ing them against me, so that I could have been Mother Teresa and they still would have hated me.  So I would take any message about "trying harder" with a very large pinch of salt. 

Sunshine1992's picture

Ss's mom is pretty much a dead beat butttttt lately I've been wondering if she has a point about how bf parents. He demands nothing from this cretin. So I'm with you 100%, I don't have to coddle a kid who hasn't even thanked me for pretty much anything . 
 

oh my god, and side note, my bf is always talking with his sister and other parents about what to do as a parent and I'm like... dude you don't know what you're doing at all!! I'm 30 with no kids and I think I can at least say that. 

Sunshine1992's picture

Lol good point !! He does it from the angle like "I know what to do, this parent has it all wrong cause they hit their kid". Hitting or not you still need to make your kid into a normal citizen ffs. 

Rags's picture

Now for a repeat 8th grade three or more times story.  

When I was in Jr. High School, what is called MIddle School these days, I was assaulted with a knife by an 18yo 9th grader.

This guy had been held back 3 or 4 times.  

Long story short, he tried to force me to step on the school crest on the floor of the Jr. High foyer. Which was a bit no no.  I refused, he attempted to drag me over the crest, unsuccessfully. So, he pulled a knife and backed me against the wall with the knife.  A Cheer Leader showed up at that point and he tucked the knife in his jacket.

My parents picked me up from school after track practice and we headed home for dinner.  They noticed blood on my shirt where he had nicked me with the knife.  When they asked, I told them what had happened.  They reported it to the school.

A few days later a police officer removed me from class and informed me that they would be in an office behind the student services counter and wanted me to  walk by the glass window between the foyer and the office area and if I saw the perpetrator to proceed past the window and inform the officer that would be waiting on the other side in the hallway. I nodded and two officers stepped out of the office behind the 18yo 9th grader and cuffed him. He had the knife in his jacket pocket. He disappeared never to seen again.

And.... another multiple time Jr. high failure in my neighborhood decided he wanted to kick my ass. I overheard him in my front yard talking with another kid about knocking on my door to get me outside at which point he would kick my ass. So, I stepped out of the front door and took a seat on my younger brothers kid sized Schwinn bicycle.  He moved aggressively toward me at which point I jumped up and smashed the bike on his head and proceeded to beat him bloody with the bike.  He was several years older than me.  My parents were not home at the time.

So, his father came over to complain about what I had done to his kid.  A couple weeks later the same event restarted. The kid was hiding behind  bushes outside my door when I overheard him and another kid plotting my demise.  So, I got my CO2 air pistol, filled it with BBs, added a fresh CO2 cartridge, went out the back door, walked around the house behind them and proceeded to fill his ass with BBs chasing him down the street.

A few weeks later he was arrested for raping his 6yo little sister.

That your BF and his idiot brother are Mediteranian and passionate people is complete horse shit.  This an ill parented, ill behaved failed family spawn and he and the father need a swift kick in the ass.  So does the Uncle.  This kid has no business being in 8th grade for a 3rd time.  The other kids should not be forced to suffer his presence. And neither should you.

smh

I have lived much of my life around and working with Mediteranians and Middle Easterners.  Don't ever think that their region of origin justifies this shit. It doesn't.  My younger brother was born in Beirut. You don't get more Mediteranian than Beirut.

Tolerate no crap from any of these jackasses.

Good luck.