Is this the end?
Hello there,
I've been reading this forum since a long time, but today is THE day when things really got bad...
I am married to a divorced man, having 2 kids (SS 11 years and SD 8 years). We were together since 3 years (affair) before he divorced and 2 years more or less oficially (for his family and kids it took really long time before introducing me and still it is not completly done), so 5 years in total. First marriage for me and no kids my side.
I have a very good relationship with SD, she is treating me with respect and lot of maturity despite her 8 years. The other thing is SS (11 yo): in the beginning i was introduced as his fathers friend and we had kind of a good relationship, playing together, talking at least. Since he knows that we are together as a couple, he resents me a lot. We now moved to live to another city and they come only for half of school vacation (before it was 4 days each 2 weeks with us). So basically, when SS comes to our place, he does not say "Hello", he is ony talking to me as a last resort and when does, he never calls me be my name. I am trying to be patient as we are only spending a week together each two months, but I still cannot cope with the frustration.
I guess it is also happening because my husband does not support me at all in this situaiton, all he says since a year is "you need to be patient, give him some time".
We had our civil marriage 2 weeks ago, and he did not tell about it to his kids. They are now spending this week with us, and things are really going very bad. I resent a lot that he continues hiding the truth from his kids, and basically has no guts even to show them that he is happy with me. There are other disturbing facts, like when they come, he sleeps with them (almost 2 years after divorce now) on the floor in the living room EVERY DAY of the week they stay here. This time SD said on the first day "I will sleep in my bed", but surely SS said "I want to sleep with dad", so all of them finished sleeping together again. It was a golden opportunity to making them sleep at least couple of nights in their beds but he did not do it. Forgot to say they are very attached to him emotionally, theey say "I love you dad" like 10 times a day etc.
We fought because of that on feb 13th just before Valentines day, and DH said the only thing I am doing is spoiling his little time with his kids and if i am like that I am not supposed to even approach him on Feb 14th (AND THIS 2 WEEKS AFTER THE MARRIAGE :jawdrop: )
I will not go over the all drama that happenned the day after, but it was cold very very cold between us. Yesterday kind of patch up, going to restaurant with common friends who know that we are married and whom he requested to keep quite about that in front of the kids ( :jawdrop: once again), so i continue to resent this more and more during the evening...
This morning he was supposed to go for a day outing with kids "exclusive kids/dad time", i woke to help them pack and first thing i see in the morning: we have lot of photographs on the fridge and there is one with me SS an SD from ski vacation last year. so this photograph was turned and sticked to the fridge to show the empty side...
I told DH "even if its childish, I wont accept seeing such things first time in the morning in my house"... he fought with me, he shouted at his SS (this time he did) and I told that his son should tare this photo if he does not like it and not coming like a thief and doing it hiddenly (he already did it before some time back when we announced we are together). So instead of SS, its actually overboiled with emotions DH who tared it....
I understand, i've let things go too far away by accepting one thing after the other, but I love him and we are very good life partners and we struggled so much to make it all happen (waiting him to divorce etc, his kids accept me etc...)
I am just desperate to see that everything I hoped for is getting ruined...
I dont know if anything can ever save this relationship, actually i know that it is supposed to be him...but...
any advice is very much appreciated
thank you for taking time to read me
His parents and immediate
His parents and immediate cousins know but not yet the extended family, he was planning to make a traditional wedding in summer and officialise it for everyone.
I am not ok with him sleeping with them not out of jealousy, but because i convinced that this contributes to cultivation of the feeling "WE ARE ALL STILL NOT OK AFTERT THE DIVORCE". He could change it and do it once or twice in a week but he slept with them EVERY SINGLE night since divorce.
all this does not matter as I clearly understand that he needs to take steps that he does not plan to take in the nearest future, I just needed someone else to tell me that, thanks for your support and advice about the bed the day they've gone }:)
Due to your marriage
Due to your marriage beginning with infidelity and you being equally responsible for the demise of your DH's pervious marriage and the destruction of their family I would not expect your Skids to ever accept you or respect you.
Before you were their father's wife you were his mistress. Not a notable foundation for respect or long term success regarding a relationship with your SKids.
If your marriage is to survive your DH is going to have to put his foot down with his son and address his own guilty parenting issues and demand that the boy behaves appropriately. Critical to this is for him and you to be honest with the kids about being married.
If you were to have talk with the boy and apologize for your part in the infidelity and demise his family it might be a starting point for you to participate in improving things.
Hi @Rags, thank you, I did
Hi @Rags, thank you, I did not mention kids do not know the truth about us being together before official divorce. another secret we are supposed to live with...
SS resents me naturally because i think he sees his BM unhappy and he even told to his father that he wouldnt share all things happening at our house with his mom because it will make her feel unhappy. He also told outloud once "mom is seeing a psychologist" which surely put DH on even worse guilt trip.
SS wouldnt even answer my questions on what he wants to eat, so we are a bit too far from the moment where i could approach him for having sincere discussion.
The facts of the beginning of
The facts of the beginning of your relationship are what they are. Going forward I think recognition of those facts and not playing secretive games is the way to go with everyone. If DH won't state the facts then you do it... at lease with the adults you interface with as a couple.
The kids need the facts presented in an age appropriate manner and everyone else needs to be presented with a clear statement that you and DH are now married.
DH needs to recognize that his guilt driven behaviors are not healthy for anyone and likely can end the marriage.
I hope that he can find clarity and become the equity life partner you desire.
Good luck.
This 100%
This 100%
Fine you had an affair with a
Fine you had an affair with a married guy, he left his family for you....nothing you can do to change it..
The problem is your DH trying to hide everything, why not simply get it over and done and tell the kids you are married and share a room from now on. Kids will sleep in their own room...
Belief me even if you met DH years after divorce his kids still would've resented you, thus stop worrying about any of that, that will never change accept it and tell them the truth.
Simply disengage from bratty skids, if SS does not greet you do not greet him, do nothing for him, if he's nice to you you are nice back, but this is not applicable on the girl yet, she's till nice, but Hon believe me when the hormones kick in age 12 she's going to make your life a living hell, best would be not to get to attached, see them as the neighbors kids, you are not their parent and you never will be.
Work on your husband to tell his children the truth.
Get the poor kid some
Get the poor kid some counselling, he is struggling. And some counselling for you and your DH. You need some professional help putting this family in place, do it sooner rather than later. Good luck.
There's a lot of mistresses
There's a lot of mistresses showing up on here lately...was there a convention in town?
You are finding out what his
You are finding out what his ex-wife already knows: he is no prize. He is a practiced deceiver. He will manipulate whoever his wife is. She will become the person downhill and that's the direction, er, refuse rolls to and piles on.
The little girl is still nice to you because she does not understand what an affair is. The little boy turned on you because he does understand, he's figured out the two of you lied to him and used him, and that the two of you hurt his mother.
Those of us who met our spouses long after their divorces often have trouble with skids turning hostile starting with the change in status to being married. That alone, under the best of circumstances, is hard enough. But your ss has a truckload of other issues as well. I don't see you ever winning that popularity contest.
Now what I recommend you do is go to a counselor for individual therapy. Work on yourself to develop better standards for yourself including becoming a more honest person and learning to care about others and to want to be around honest, caring people as you become one yourself.
Forget about your marriage while in therapy. Work on YOU. When you have done that, you will know exactly what to do about your marriage without any advice at all.
His SS is 11, a tough time.
His SS is 11, a tough time. The kids are feeling threatened with abandoned feelings, which really ought to not be the case. Like grieving a loss (see the 5 stages of grief), they're feeling similar emotions to losing a parent to you (which is unfounded, I know, but it happens a lot). Check out the stages, and know that the best thing for you is to keep the three Ps: Persistence, Patience, and Prayer. Have faith that it will work out, even if it's only through plain ol' maturity and these SKids simply outgrow being punks, LOL. Brute force won't make a plant grow any more than it will make a relationship grow. Don't force this, and don't try to do what's not your responsibility. You won over your husband, and you can win over his kids, provided that you are being the same lovable, compassionate person to them.
I'll also say it's up to your new husband to soothe the kids - not you - so don't take that on. I went through a lot of this at first, and I know it's tough. Hang in there, persevere, but also make sure you're being very civil. For me, sometimes, I felt like the kids saw me as sub-par(ent) - to which I'd address their objectionable behaviors along the line like, "When you mumble something with your head down after I say something, I feel like you're trying to hide your thoughts. Is this because you feel like your thoughts aren't worthy, or my ears are not worthy of hearing them, or something else? Please explain what you said and why you said it." I'd call them out on the spot, very kindly but firmly. So they stopped that game. After a few more times of calling out their bad behavior (not calling them out personally, but their behavior) and saying how it made me feel, then asking how it'd make them feel and asking them to explain the behavior, they were forced to come to grips with their own feelings. In the end, they gave up most of the passive-aggressive behavior, and we're onto other issues that I'm dealing with.
Trust me, with a solid effort, it'll get better over time. Remember the three Ps! And don't be afraid to disengage from them and let the kids experience some freedom to the point that dad experiences the results of the kids's freedom - dad will become a parent and he'll appreciate your position all the more.
Good luck!
As for the 3 year affair with
As for the 3 year affair with him before you were "2 years more or less officially" together, I know there are circumstances... I met a gal on Plenty Of Fish when dating post-divorce, and she was "separated." I asked her about the status, and she said they had been separated for something like 4 or 5 years and hadn't divorced because neither could afford the legal costs. I didn't continue the relationship for a handful of reasons, but I could understand that. Now, if he was carrying on with you behind her back, that's another thing...
BTW, in TX, grounds for divorce can include not having "physical relations." My ex had cut me off for almost 4 years before I filed. I didn't cite that as the reason, as we had really gone in opposite directions, and it was only getting worse.
Thanks to everyone for your
Thanks to everyone for your comments and kind words (except the judges, let them also be judged one day)
I consider to try desingage myself and not from SS but from DH hahaha
They were out all day and DH did not stop texting me on how bad and uncontrollable I am. He told I have to approach him for a solution, I said "NO
I started this fight and for two reasons: 1st sleeping arrangements / 2nd disrespect from his son, so he needs to address those two issues to be able to approach me...
SS was sent to me this evening to apologize and I apologized too for the morning scene
But DH still considers I am the one destabilizing each and everyone here, and they continue sleeping together tonight
I guess it's a lost battle even if I get all patience of the world to cope with a kid, I won't be able to be happy with this man
" I won't be able to be happy
" I won't be able to be happy with this man"
Then you know what to do Anele..... do not waste time any more on this if you know this will never change..
The ex-wife is the only
The ex-wife is the only winner in this, and you got....him.
Echo I don't get your
Echo I don't get your perspective really. I came here to vent as many others and was sincerely telling my story. I assume what I've done.
If you can't tolerate the fact that half of marriages break because some women spread their legs with married men, don't come in this particular topic.
I hope that as a 'good' person, you are living a happy life full of love!
It's normal that you're not
It's normal that you're not feeling good with him hiding your relationship. When people cheat, they usually feel guilty. Also, and I'm not judging you, people who cheat have issues with communication and problem solving. If the relationship with the wife wasn't working and he wasn't willing to solve problems, the right thing would have been to leave. If he stayed, it's because he was either not strong enough or dominated by guilt, etc. So this kind of a person isn't really equipped to solve problems in his new relationship.
And I guess that the best you can do is to try to be loving and supportive. If his problem with the ex was that she wasn't loving and you become like her, what do you think awaits you? Try to find some relationship-saving program online or do therapy. If you're loving and tell him from your heart how you feel about the situation, he might do something to change it. I'm seeing it over and over with my ex and with my H that agressivity and pushing doesn't work with men. My H was sleeping with his daughter when she was coming over. She was already 9. I wasn't jealous, but it required rearrangement and me, sleeping with my son. It was too complicated, not to mention that to me it felt a bit unhealthy. He was very defensive when I was telling him, but after some time he understood and she never slept with him again. Ask him why he does it. IN our case, the SD was scared to sleep alone, she slept with her parents all her life and at 10, she still sleeps with her mother. We put lights, bought her a teddy bear, I read stories to her and my son before sleeping and it worked. Try to be a partner, not to impose your will. I know it's hard, but that's the best you can do.
Finally, your stepkids aren't so bad. These situations are never perfect and we do need to live with some inconveniences from our partner's kids. If you are compassionate towards his son, he might come around. If his mother is unhappy, it's normal that he feels bad. One day he might understand. And you will be the "good" one if you behave like a nice person. I know it's hard, but it's like that. Disregard some things, put your foot down about others. Choose your fights.
Good luck
Hi Sireanita, thank you for
Hi Sireanita, thank you for wise and kind words. I have somehow came to a conclusion that this confrontation method does not work, so totally agree that pushing and agressivity is not working well with men.
I think my mistake was also to idealise the event if marriage itself thinking that everything will change like in a fairy tale in one day...I understand I need to work on my expectations towards others, I always expect one step ahead, and that's where I get burnt very often.
I have made my choice to be with this man, and it's for many good reasons...and also because I know he is a great dad for his kids and will be the same to ours one day.
I asked DH already why he wants to sleep with them and the answer is very simple: he misses them very much. We just moved to another city, which reduced by half their time together, so it's kind of a stress for everyone. After this fight he told he wants to sleep with me also while they are there and that he understands that continuing this will not help kids building their confidence.
I have these ego crises from time to time (especially before my days) where I start questioning everything, I guess I am complicating my own life by doing that, because I already made my choice. I wanted to be with him badly and now that I am here I invent myself this or that reason for not being happy. I also feel guilty at times especially when I see SS's sad face leaving our home. I know their relationship with ex wife wasn't working much longer before we even met, but I know also that I have inspired him to leave, so it's very difficult at times to assume all those things ...
After cooling a bit I decided to give it another try and your words are like a ray of light in the darkness.
Maybe I am a fool, as some people wouldn't even finish reading my post were telling RUN AWAY, but I believe in love and forgiveness..once you met it in life, it's not that easy to turn your back and run away...
Wishing you all the best,cheers and thanks again for your support
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