Who to leave my Inheritance to? Good Stepson and not bad stepson? Wife says no.
My wife and I have been married 28 years. She has two sons, one of whom I like very much and the other who is the stepson from hell. When I recently told my wife that I wanted to leave some of my inheritance to the civilized stepson and not to the other one, she had a meltdown. I suspect that stepson from Hell is her favorite. She says that for a parent to leave money to one son and not the other is a very terrible final statement from the grave; it says, "You're no good, I don't like you, and you don't deserve anything." She thinks that's a very bad legacy for a parent to leave to a child. I say: Ya reap what ya sow. this Skid has never accepted me as his stepdad, shows me this in many manipulative, subtle, and not so subtle ways, and always has. So, how the hell am I his parent to begin with???? I ask: why would I as a self-respecting person, leave money to someone who doesn't consider me part of his family, who has treated me with great disrespect over the years? But my wife just can't understand this. She says, "Oh, stepson from Hell likes you, and has been very nice to you, too. He hasn't been all bad." I feel like the bad-guy here. My wife and I share all our money very well, and get along great, except for this stepson from hell who's been a huge problem from day 1. Am I being unreasonable here? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Earl J.
Thank you, lucy91-- your
Thank you, lucy91-- your words really help.
Your money is your money. You
Your money is your money. You get to leave it to whomever you wish.
I have two SDs. If I die first they get nothing. If DH dies first one SD will get 1/2 of whatever is left of our joint holdings. (My bio kids get the other half.) The other one is specifically written out of my will.
SD will not be getting a lot from either of us. Most of our finances are separate and only our current home is joint. DH's individual financial holdings are very small, and as we age growing smaller.
Thanks for really getting
Thanks for really getting this, anotherstep2, I feel a little less crazy for your perceptiveness and thoughtful advice
Not unreasonable at all.
Not unreasonable at all. People reap what the sow. So.... let PITA SS reap the non-rewards of his lack of effort and toxicity towards you.
I would leave your wife 50%, good SS 25%, and as a parting message leave the rest to a charity that PITA SS would never support … in his name! }:) Or, leave PITA SS 25% in trust with some very specific hurdles to clear before he gets a dime. Talk to your attorney to make sure you are not setting up a default situation where he gets it without clearing the hurdles you require.
Your DW can distribute her estate as she sees fit if she predeceases you.
Our Will (it is joint) names each other as the sole heir and beneficiary of the other and in the event of our joint demise it all goes into trust for SS-23 (I adopted him last year at his request) until he either completes a Bachelor’s degree from a regionally accredited college or university or turns 40yo whichever comes first. Our way of parenting from beyond the grave.
My brother confronted our parents on their estate distribution/Will because of the way their estate was to be distributed to direct descendants. He has 3 kids, I have zero bio-spawn. He and his kids would get 80% of our parents’ estate and my baby bro did not think that was fair to me. Mom and dad listened to him and revised their will leaving it all 50/50 to my brother and me. I actually had no issue with the first iteration of the will but the new configuration works too. I hope my parents bounce the last check they write and slide into the curb at the pearly gates with the tires and engine smoking and with a big grin on their faces. }:)
it's your money-leave it to
it's your money-leave it to whomever you want.
3yrs ago we lost my grandmother-BM to 7 children 6 stepkids.
She left a healthy provision for them all excluding her eldest son.
yep she left some money for her stepkids but excluded her own kid.
(ok we're talking about adults ranging from their late 30s to late 50s)
so if you wish to leave something for the good child and exclude the bad child
go ahead.
they're not your bio children-you owe neither NOTHING.
but it is certainly generous of you to include the good son.
or perhaps you could give the good son his part before you die.
I would suggest to do so anonymously however something tells me that won't work for you.
I'm not sure if these are the
I'm not sure if these are the only kids in this situation.
Usually, people leave the majority of their assets to their surviving spouse. The spouse can then distribute as their will dictates. In that scenario, expect your wife to treat her kids equally. If you have BIO kids, there is a big risk that she would exclude them.
If you are already planning on leaving your wife well off and this is a decision regarding "excess" estate, you are free to do as you like.
Keep in mind that leaving siblings unequal bequeaths can cause rifts between them. That is probably what your wife is concerned about.
A bigger problem usually exists where a parent remarries and then dies "first" and the surviving spouse ends up only giving assets to their kids leaving the first parent's children out in the cold. That is part of the reason why a lot of kids get worried when their parents remarry. It happened with my dad. His stepmom recently died (at 99) and he was left nothing despite the fact that she died with tons of money. (she lived in the same building as oprah in Chicago).
Yes, it does, moving_on;
Yes, it does, moving_on; thanks for that
You have the final say on you
You have the final say on you leave it to, but not on who actually ends up with it. If the bothers are close, chances are the one you like will share it with the other. That's exactly what would happen with my sister and me.
Yeah, my line of inheritance
Yeah, my line of inheritance is currently to my sister and some to DP.
We're updating our wills this summer since we'll be married.
I'm going to have DP as my prime, then my sister, then my niece.
I'll likely leave a little something to SDs, but it'll not be much. That's up to DP and BM to take responsibility for, not me.
LOL thx for the humor,
LOL thx for the humor, beaccountable-- I cd really use it right now! Really appreciate the advice behind it too!
You would be a fool to leave
You would be a fool to leave money to the other SS.
I have no children. My DH (who is almost a decade younger than I am) has one son and one grandchild. I have a trust set up so that NOTHING will pass to the worthless POS SS30 or his spawn.
That's very similar to mine.
That's very similar to mine. I don't want my DH to be homeless and penniless. But he is not going to have funds to give to the worthless POS SS30 to buy drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.
I have a sister that I adore who is much younger than I am. She has had some severe health problems. She has modest retirement savings and owns two homes (1 paid for rental). I'd much rather make her retirement more comfortable than to allow SS30 to have one dollar.
That's very similar to mine.
That's very similar to mine. I don't want my DH to be homeless and penniless. But he is not going to have funds to give to the worthless POS SS30 to buy drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.
I have a sister that I adore who is much younger than I am. She has had some severe health problems. She has modest retirement savings and owns two homes (1 paid for rental). I'd much rather make her retirement more comfortable than to allow SS30 to have one dollar.
My DH is pissed. His dad is
My DH is pissed. His dad is dying so everyone knows what's on the will. It's all fair based on what each child has "earned" no complaints except from his daughter but she does nothing but asks for money. I've never seen her at a family function and we all live within 30 minutes of each other. However it says if all 3 of his sons die then the inheritance all goes to his daughter. DH is all mad because it doesn't say anything about the grandkids. Well for starters: our daughter is 2. His other two kids are 12 and 15. They don't visit him and call him by his first name sooooo really can you blame grandpa? 3rdly it doesn't matter because you aren't going to die before your dad. I think the idea of having to split everything equal is ridiculous. You reap what you sow! DH and his two brothers get mostly everything because they do everything for their dad. One brothers wife bathes him, wipes his butt and much more. The will isn't based off grandpa's feelings now. He has had it for years with minimal changes due to what people have shown him thru the years.
My DH is pissed. His dad is
My DH is pissed. His dad is dying so everyone knows what's on the will. It's all fair based on what each child has "earned" no complaints except from his daughter but she does nothing but asks for money. I've never seen her at a family function and we all live within 30 minutes of each other. However it says if all 3 of his sons die then the inheritance all goes to his daughter. DH is all mad because it doesn't say anything about the grandkids. Well for starters: our daughter is 2. His other two kids are 12 and 15. They don't visit him and call him by his first name sooooo really can you blame grandpa? 3rdly it doesn't matter because you aren't going to die before your dad. I think the idea of having to split everything equal is ridiculous. You reap what you sow! DH and his two brothers get mostly everything because they do everything for their dad. One brothers wife bathes him, wipes his butt and much more. The will isn't based off grandpa's feelings now. He has had it for years with minimal changes due to what people have shown him thru the years.
Don't allow your wife's
Don't allow your wife's emotional blackmail to sway you. Never reward bad behavior! She should have dealt with her son's mistreatment of you. No one is entitled to anything in this world, and certainly no brat is entitled to the proceeds of your hard work. I offer two scenarios for your consideration:
I have no children, and my husband and I are estranged from both of his adult daughters. They have mistreated us and exploited us for per$onal gain, therefore they will not receive a penny of our estate. My DH feels very strongly about this, and I agree.
I have an older brother who is a wastrel. He is a vicious dry drunk who won't work and blames the world for his problems. He lived off our mother, extending a temporary stay to over 15 years. When mom passed, he was shocked to discover he had been left nothing. He tormented her in life, but she got the last laugh.
I share this with you to illustrate the point that it's your life, your estate, and you should do with it exactly as you please. And don't be surprised if your bratty SS suddenly wants to patch things up with you. Your wife will no doubt warn him of you intention to cut him out.
Wow, we have such a similar
Wow, we have such a similar situation. Expect mine are SD's. One from hell who treats me exactly as your SS from hell treats you, and the other I have a good relationship with
If I chose to leave something to the good one I would, and if I didn't feel like leaving anything to the rotten one I wouldn't
And I would hope the rotten one would get the message loud and clear, that ya, what you reap is what you sow!
My only advice is it would make a huge statement to that SS, who I'm sure would never forgive you which would be fine, but if your wife wouldn't forgive you are you okay with that?
Hi Disillusioned, thanks for
Hi Disillusioned, thanks for your feedback. Actually things have gotten much worse; after I had this discussion with my wife, she went and drank and smoked up, fell down, hit her head, developed a subdural hematoma, and ended up having brain surgery. She almost died. Her kids had to fly in, and the stepson I detest was here for 3 whole weeks, visiting almost every day and bringing his brats with him. My wife and he and his youngest spawn would go for cozy walks down in the botannical gardens near us as she recuperated and I stayed at home, willingly, but still eating my heart out if you know what I mean. I'm at my rope's end. This has been the summer from hell. Now I'm taking care of her all the time, and this issue is still before us, only much more intense than before. I feel really screwed up over this now.
Years ago my DH's SIL made
Years ago my DH's SIL made mention that she assumed all of my savings and interest in the house I owned would be going to SD who has treated me like dog doo from the beginning of our marriage. I informed SIL that I would rather give it to charity than to SD. This pushed me to make sure it DID go to charity.
One thing to think about however: My Mother has always favored my sisters over me and I strongly suspect I will get nothing if she dies. I'm OK with that. But for a VERY long time it seems like with every other breath my Mother has brought up the 'inheritance'. She uses it like blackmail. If someone doesn't cater to her wishes as she thinks they should she will say, "They'll get nothing from me when I die." So I am wondering why you are even discussing it with DW? You have a right to do what you want with your money. Just take it off of the discussion table.
Hi Sandye 21, It's just
Hi Sandye 21,
It's just because my DW and I share all our money together, and the issue of doing our wills together came up. This is why I felt I had to broach the subject to her.
Spend it all now! Isn't there
Spend it all now! Isn't there somewhere you've always wanted to travel, or something you've always wanted to do?
What is the meaning of life? To work hard, die and leave your hard earned $$$ to people who are glad you're gone?
New Development Thanks to all
New Development
Thanks to all who shared their valuable advice and experience with me; I really appreciate it and it helps me to see I'm not crazy in wanting to leave inheritance money only to the SS who has always treated me with respect, and not to the disrespectful, abusive stepson. The latest development is that things have gotten much worse; after I had the discussion with my wife, about the possibility of leaving some of my inheritance money to the nice SS only, asking her why he should suffer because of his jerk of a brother (she said I should leave money either to both of them or neither of them), she went and drank and smoked up, fell down, hit her head, developed a subdural hematoma, and ended up having brain surgery. She almost died. Her kids had to fly in, and the jerk of a stepson I detest was here for 3 whole weeks, visiting almost every day. The nice SS came also, but his presence I enjoyed. My wife and the rotten SS and his youngest spawn would go for cozy morning walks down in the botannical gardens near us as she recuperated and I stayed at home. I stayed home willingly because he always edges me out of their cozy little relationship, but I still ended up eating my heart out. I'm at my rope's end. This has been the summer from hell. Now I'm taking care of her all the time, and this issue is still before us, only much more intense than before. She seems to feel that, if only I could "get over" my anger at son, everything would be OK. I feel really screwed up over this. Just need to vent. We're seeing a therapist, but after our last session she said she's not well enough to do this work. Great. So I'm seeing the therapist alone. I feel crazy. Is it me???? Did I drive her to this? Or does she have over-identification issues with this jackass of a son? Any advice is deeply appreciated.
"She seems to feel that, if
"She seems to feel that, if only I could "get over" my anger at son, everything would be OK." I am so glad you are going to a therapist by yourself and bet eventually you will discover that even if you get over your anger at her son, you do not owe any inheritance to anyone if you don't want to. Sorry about your DW hitting her head but she's still being unfair. It's your money. You have a right to do with it as you please. Leave the rotten SS $1. Next time DW brings it up tell her it's all figured out and rotten SS will "Get something", no more discussing it.
Thanks sandye21-- your advice
Thanks sandye21-- your advice really helps and I truly appreciate it!
Always follow your heart.
Always follow your heart. Leave whatever you have to those you love and respect, regardless of any relatives who don't deserve your thoughts.
Hi, I have done as much as I
Hi,
I have done as much as I could to keep my assets from going to the SD with financial planning and a lawyer. Husband is understanding about the situation and my feelings. However, we still have her inheriting the (still not paid off) house. But everything else has been taken off the table. I feel that when a husband and wife leave everything to each other, the one who dies first loses. As husband and wife, building a life together and combining assets, this becomes a difficult fix.
I have not promised my husband I would be good to her if he went first. I do feel that when someone won't meet you even half way in these situations, for years, why should they get money? I received money from deceased people in my life, but I always loved them and treated them with respect. I was sad they died, which wouldn't be the case with my SD!
When my father died, he left his land to my half brother, and my sister and I were left with nothing. So I DO know how it feels to be out in the cold, but I still am not feeling I need to reward bad behavior and disrespect. I say, as others have, go with your heart. If it is your wife's favorite son, too bad. She should understand your feelings.
Husband wanting to split remaining trust in will to bio kids
Hello first timer here. I have been remarried for 6 years. Husband just got his dad’s inheritance. He wants to set up will. Me getting house and 100K life insurance and leaving remaining trust to his bio son and daughter now 15 and twins. I have a bio son 23 and bio daughter 26. I am sad he thinks his skids will just be taken care of by what I have left. I don’t know how to talk to him without getting him mad. I understand it is his money but I have done a lot to help with family since bio isn’t really in the picture. I love my kids just as much as he loves his. Please help with advice.
I am not sure why you would
I am not sure why you would expect an inheritance from your DH's father to go to your own children.
My DH and I each have two children. We have a trust set up to protect each other when one of us goes. When the second one passes the trust will be split 4 ways. This was easy to set up because we both came to the marriage with a a relatively equal amount of assets.
We both expect to receive inheritances, his substantial, mine not so much. But I consider that to be family money, and the state I live in specifies that as well were he and I to split. I see no reason why money from his aunt should benefit my adult children, and my DH loves my children. Likewise, I do not see why money from my family should go to his kids.
It is your job to provide for your own children, not your DH's. If you feel you are unable to do that to your liking, you need explore other options other than an inheritance from your DH's father.
Well said!
Well said! I think the husband did it perfectly by planning to leave the house and 100K to his wife. That's plenty and it's completely fair that his kids would get the rest.
Wills are like Studebakers
I suggest you get your husband to talk to an attorney about estate planning and go together. I am betting that you both have some retirement savings, as well as the house, the stated life insurance, and the inheritance from his dad. All of this needs to be addressed in the planning. It is not so simple as dividing up the stuff that he has today. What if your husband becomes ill and uses all the inheritance on his medical care while he is alive? Or needs long term care? Would he be happy with the division he has planned if that happens? You get the house and insurance and his kids get nothing? What if he dropped dead 5 minuts after he signs the will and his kids are just 15 years old? Are they prepared for that kind of money? Who would administer it? What if then you sold the house and left just the proceeds to your children and left his out?
My bet is that the attorney will suggest a trust instead of a will as it is a much more flexible and dynamic instrument. It would allow for changes over time and circumstances. There might also be state laws regarding assets that your attorney will address with your husband. It is also harder for your husband to tell an attorney that he wants an unfair distribution of assets.
The real issue is that your husband does not see your children as part of the family. His family is his kids and you. I suggest you address this issue separate from the money.
Good Luck - you are going to need it.
Also, a Will is a PUBLIC
Also, a Will is a PUBLIC document, a Trust is NOT. A Will may be contested in many states. And it only takes one effed up family member to make it HELL on everyone else. I saw this happen, and it's absolutely mortifying!
Like someone said, why expect
Like someone said, why expect any inheritance at all from your step parent? If they WANT to give you something, that is nice, but there should be no expectation. Pls don't allow your wife's emotional blackmail to sway your decision. Personally, I wouldn't discuss your will with her any more if she is going to put that on you.
First off, get an attorney
First off, get an attorney and make it a Trust, not a Will. A Will may be contested in court; a Trust cannot. It's a minor change - makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE if you have a lousy crum-bum who might contest it OR if you have a wife who has a meltdown over your wishes.
NEXT... you make the Trust divide your assets how YOU want. My biokids are 100% loyal to their mom and my daughter is especially ignoring me, so at this point, I don't have them in any of my wishes. Harsh? It's their choice, as set by their mom.
As for my SKids, they are largely indifferent about me, which I chalk up to the "Step Divide," where their wishes for a dad who isn't a dip are real and there - they are keeping me at arm's length till their dad stops being a dip.
At this point, I'd include my SKids in my Trust, as much as my son, but my daughter would get NOTHING. Well, maybe I'd give her $500. Or $50. Maybe a $5 gift card to McDonald's.
You do what you want, what you think is right. You could give the ons SKid something, but then in your Trust, state that the other gets it in installments or must spend it on a home or whatever. Or $50. But do it in a Trust!
Holy THREAD RESURRECTION,
Holy THREAD RESURRECTION, Batman! I hate when this happens.