Potential Christmas MAYHEM!!
My Partner went through a very messy, very drawn out divorce in April this year. He has 3 children with his ex wife. He gained custody of his youngest daughter. We have now applied to move his daughter to live with us in my home town. I am expecting a baby in February next year.
His two oldest children will be visiting us for the first time after the divorce for Christmas. They have been completely turned by their BM against him and did not react well to the news of the baby, or the relocation. The oldest daughter is not much younger than me and has already admitted that she has no interest in getting to know me, or being part of an extended family that I am involved in, and the youngest has said the same. They have even threatened to try to take the youngest daughter away.
The BM has been living in another country since the divorce and is incredibly emotional and volitile. She has outbursts at the yougest (she is 8yrs) over phone calls and does whatever she can to make it clear that the youngest should not be happy in her new school, and that I am a wicked witch.
My relationship with my partner is increibly strong, but this divorce has nearly pushed him over the edge, having nearly lost his daughters and had to sit through hours of screaming and damnation which in reality, and even the professionals agree, the BM is doing the harm. She has used the children wherever possible to retaliate.
I am very concerned that the visit of his children at a time when we have settled into a loving home where I have a good relationship with his youngest daughter and he is finally not having to deal with the stress on a daily basis, is going to cause a huge amount of disturbance in the youngest daughter's life, as well as stress on our unborn baby.
I am not sure how to deal with the older children at all having never met them (as they live overseas) and them living with us for 3 weeks. Any help or advice on how I / we should act when they come at us in force would be much appreicated!
Why'd he get custody of the 8
Why'd he get custody of the 8 year old? I'm curious, why only the youngest?
The second oldest is 16 and
The second oldest is 16 and wanted her independence so chose to leave the country. The professionals decided that he was the better parent and recommended he keep custody of the youngest as the older sibling and mother had a bad influence on her. Mainly becuase of the parental alienation that was going on. He has remained loving and open to the other two but they have only really heard their mothers side of things without giving him the benefit of even listening to them.![Sad](https://prod-cdn-1.ststatic.com/sites/all/modules/contrib/smiley/packs/kolobok/sad.gif)
This is pretty encouraging...
This is pretty encouraging... a big leap for fathers everywhere. Thank you for sharing,
your DH must have had a very good lawyer.
I hope you and your DH are not planning on setting the record straight re who is the real bad guy in this divorce over the holidays this year. The urge to do that is just impossible to fight, and we fell into the same trap head first. Don't waste your breath. The message that needs to be communicated will be shared non-verbally: you are happy together, he loves his children, and you love having them around. More marshmallows, anyone?
Yes it is very encouraging i
Yes it is very encouraging i am very proud of how hard he fought! Thank you for the heads up- you are right we will try to stay neutral and I'll stock up on marshmallows!!!![Smile](https://prod-cdn-1.ststatic.com/sites/all/modules/contrib/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
Hello and welcome! It will
Hello and welcome! It will certainly be a memorable Xmas. If i were you, i would keep my expectations VERY low. If you manage to get through the 3 weeks without killing each other, and without having to call the police/mobile crisis unit/suicide hotline, I would consider the holidays an UNQUALIFIED success. My recommendation would be to find activities for all of them to do WITHOUT you and to send them on their merry way every day, 10 to 5. Think of yourself as a tour operator. If you live next to some landmarks/Civil war battlefields/big malls - send them to explore, in order to avoid your own un-civil battles. The kids will likely be hostile. Do not take it personally - which is great advice, but almost impossible to do.
How old are the older two? How long ago did their parents separate? Was April just the tail end of the divorce? Are you the reason their parents broke up?
Whatever you do, do not fawn over them. We all did that, we all tried to win them over, and it is not worth it. In your circumstances it cannot be done. No matter how adorable you are. I would be polite and welcoming but cool. You are not going to be best buds with them. At least not now. Is there a boy in the picture or are all three girls?
Thank you for your advice!
Thank you for your advice!
The divorce went on for about 3 years so yes, April was the tail end. In her eyes I was the reason for the divorce but in reality their marriage was over long before I came along. They were seperated when we met. The older two are 16 and 25. No boy, just girls so far!I just want him to have a peaceful christmas and they are very strong willed girls! I love your adivce to act like a tour operator...very similar to my current job so I guess I'll be good at it!
I am sure you will get a lot
I am sure you will get a lot of other suggestions on how to approach keeping the peace, but here are my last 2 cents.
It is an unusual age range that your SDs span - their parents seem to have had one kid per decade. So it is hard to tell how close the three of them are, they are developmentally and geographically in very different places. Will they stick together or can you divide and conquer them given that the youngest lives with you and the oldest is an adult?
Here is what i know for sure: when a woman, no matter how old, so much as looks at her SM, so much as talks to her or tries to like her, it feels like a betrayal of her mother. It is a very uncomfortable feeling that gnaws at you. I remember feeling it when i thought that i might be going to my father's house after the divorce. At the time I was in high school. What could counteract it in girls' minds is the explicit permission of the BM to give the SM a chance. But the BMs you read about on this website are not the kind to give it.
IMO this stance, "I will betray my mom if i like you", is just a generic fact that transcends personalities, cultures, individual circumstances. If the mother in question is actively alienating the girls, it becomes all the harder for them to be anything but hateful towards you. They identify with her.
Read this blog to get an idea how hard divorce is on adult daughters even:
http://www.steptalk.org/node/171858