Confront her or not to confront her.. hmm..
Hey guys! I'm back. I just posted on here a couple days ago about the drama BM brought onto me and my FDH. If you wanna read it, it's: BM drama and now I'm questioning everything, in this forum. She told me FDH that she still loved him and wanted to work things out. He said no. So she decided to take it upon herself and message me on facebook about how they messed around a few weeks ago. She was so rude. (I wanted badly to say, "Is that where I got gonorrhea from?? Figures!" It would have been a joke cause I've never had it before lol) I was extremely disgustingly nice when I responded to her. She told FDH that I seemed very nice and that their kids like me and she can see why, all while he was telling her to stay the f outta our relationship. Me and my FDH had a very long talk about all this and I'm about 95% sure nothing happened. I even talked to a friend of mine who knows about BM and what she's really like and she's a weirdo.
So after the long talk and breath of air I felt a ton better and thought all this crap would be done and over with. No.. sorry, I'm not that lucky to have it done and over with. She's texted him saying how she fears for her life because he's so mad at her now. (This whole thing caused a huge fight between me and FDH.) FDH is not the violent type and she should know that since they were together for many years. I'm getting so SICK and TIRED of her texting him with these stupid remarks. Really.I was so angry yesterday that I told him that this whole "let's stay civil for the kids" thing is OVER when she decided to bring me into this. When she drops off the kids you talk to them not her. No more texting back and forth throughout the day and no more going to the mall with them to buy the kids stuff. That he was fully capable of buying his kids the stuff they need on his own with the kids. I plan on moving in with him in a few weeks so I also said.. "And if she steps one pinkie toe into OUR place I will go over to her place bitch her out and make sure everyone knows I can be just as psychotic as she is." I said NO ONE is going to try and mess up our relationship. This is about US not HER.
All day today I've been considering messaging her, whether it be on facebook or text, and saying (nicely, cuase she thinks I'm so sweet) that, "Me and FDH are trying to work things out and move past this. If it's possible could you please stop the texting or phone calls so we can better work this out? You know he'll never hurt you so you have no reason to have any fear of that. He's angry, as I am, and has every right to have such anger. But it'll pass, I'm sure. For now though, I'd really appreciate the texting or phone calls to stop for the time being unless there's an emergency with the kids. I never wanted to get in between which is why I always took a step back but in this case it's affecting me and FDH."
Would that be bad to say? I just don't have it in me anymore to sit back when this does deal with me too. My fear is though is that she may use what I say against him seeing his kids or her saying things about me to the kids. She's already said to him that she'd give him joint custody..
Should I just let it go or speak up and stand my ground?
Wow, I never really thought
Wow, I never really thought of it that way.. Making it look like I'm begging, and I think you're right!
That's the thing, I never wanted to have anything to do with her but instead I was brought into it. My first thought before I read the message was, "And... it starts." Thank God she doesn't have my number.
It just seems like in any other circumstance if say a random girl said she messed around with my FDH I would have flipped the hell out on her. What makes BM any different than the "random girl"?
I would not stoop to her
I would not stoop to her level. The more you banter back and forth the more she will try to use against you. She can take things out of context and really hurt your current situation.
Do not confront her. You will be hating it later....
Please follow Echo's advice.
Please follow Echo's advice. Honestly, I have no idea why you've let this continue as long as it already has. All contact should, unless it directly pertains to the children. Even then, it should be between the parents, not you and her!
I think I will follow Echo's
I think I will follow Echo's advice.
A few weeks ago I ended up finding they were talking back and forth way too much and it ticked me off. So I did open my mouth and ever since then he hasn't been talking to her too much but she would still call and text and he would ignore her. I'd find a text here and there with him saying stop texting me. He said to her, it wasn't fair to me for them two to talk as much. Then on Friday I think it all started with her saying she still loved him, wanted him back and onto her messaging me.
"I am sorry you are going
"I am sorry you are going through this...psycho jealous ex's are the worst!"
They really are..
You know what, this is your
You know what, this is your FDH's problem to sort out not yours. If you step in and start sending her text messages nice or not, if you start telling him to take the kids to the shop by himself and not with her it will never end. HE needs to do it, and if he cannot, you need to know before you marry him, not after. He is a grown man and should by now know right from wrong.
I can see you travelling down the same road as many of us here whose husband are too weak to stand up to their children and ex's. Is that what you want.
She's baiting you and your falling into her trap. Pretty soon your behaviour WILL be as psychotic as hers and you will have no control over it, you will just be sucked into this situation and become like her, why, because you are demanding your FDH do this, and do that (as she does). I get it, I am not putting you down here, I truly get your frustration, it is maddening. But do you want a life like she had with him. I suspect not.
Why on earth is she your friend on facebook, for goodness sake, she is not your friend or she would not be telling you she slept with your FDH. She is trying to control you, by being your friend on facebook she can see what is going on, by having your mobile number she can call or text you anytime she likes, she can find out what you and HER husband as she sees it are doing in your little phone chats -CONTROL, she is not your friend she is using you for her own ends. My suggestion would be to block her from facebook and tell her why - You have had enough of the drama, you wish her good luck in her life and hope all goes well for her - Done. No need to stir up more trouble by being nasty, she can stir up plenty of trouble on her own. If it is not too dificult to change your mobile no I would do that to, if it is, then don't answer her calls or respond to her texts, if she calls from a differnt number hang up don't speak to her. If she says it's to do with the kids, tell her call FDH. If she thinks you don't care about them communicating you win, because if she knows it bugs you she will never stop.
She is not the problem in your relationship with FDH - He is. He needs to man up and put her in her place - the ex. But if the kids are around any of you, then you all do need to be civil like it or not. It is not their fault.
Texting back and forth all day with the ex - Please. But you see, he is playing his part in that, she can text him a 100 times a day if she likes, he does not have to respond, yet according to you he is responding, I would be questiong what he is doing, what she does is irrelavant. No third person can come in and break up a sound relationship, if you two are happy then nothing or no one will tear you apart but if there are cracks in the relationship then it is quite easy for anyone to rip them apart. Don't let your FDH off the hook here place your anger where it should be placed on the man who is texting her back and taking her to the shops. You have no control over her or what she does. You should however have the respect of your FDH and he should not be doing things that upset you.
Those of us with the biggest problems on here myself included are the ones who's husbands will not support us, who are too weak to stand up for themselves. These type of men will allow their children to walk all over you and do nothing about it, other than blame you and defend the kids. For your own sake, for the sake of your relationshp make your FDH stand up and take accountabliity and responsibility for this mess that HE has had a hand in creating......for heaven's sake going to the shops with his ex please that is sending mixed messages to her and his kids.
I have been very harsh here, and I have done it for a reason, to try and stop you from following in my footsteps, we love these men, we make excuses for them, we for years blame everyone around them for causing all these problems in their/our lives - truth is, it is our husbands/partners that are to blame.. Not the kids, not the ex. The men themselves because they are the ones who allowed it in the first place, and by contiuing it they have encourage it, they do it because it makes it easier on them, and don't care tht it makes it harder on the new gf/wife they are the ones and the only ones who can and need to stop it, If your FDH does not have the courage to do so you need to find out now. You need to know before the marriage if your FDH is man enough to say NO to the ex and No to the kids when need be. They can demand what they want of him it is up to him whether he jumps through their hoops of fire or not.
Echo is right, sending that message plays right into her hands and only makes you look pathetic in her eyes and worst of all, just like his ex in your FDH - don't go there.
All the very best, this is a very difficult rocky road we travel I hope it works out for you all.
*standing ovation* I will add
*standing ovation*
I will add that I see nothing wrong with explaining to a partner why these behaviors are wrong but if they continue doing them then get the hell outta dodge.
My husband was a pushover for BM, his family and the kids, but after we'd been dating about 6 months, I had a nice little talky talk with him and everything changed-I presented everything logically and in a why it's good for the kids/you/us manner, and he responded well to that. Have their been screwups? YES. But in general, it is pretty smooth sailing. I get along very well with the skids, and we have very little contact with BM and with DH's family.
I can almost guarantee that everyone on here who "hates" their stepkids has an unsupportive partner.
I completely agree with
I completely agree with everything you wrote. What you wrote wasn't harsh.. it seemed more like the truth. I agree with everything you wrote I'm just getting a sneak peek at all this. I didn't want to out of annoyance just go ahead and message her. I came to you guys first
OH and NO she's not my friend on facebook.. I'm not that dumb haha! She searched me somehow and found me. I didn't even know she knew my last name. She can't see a dang thing on my profile, nor his. And she doesn't have my number either.
Thank you for writing everything you did. And if you would've wrote more, trust me, I would've read pages worth.
WOW... You don't know how
WOW...
You don't know how much you have just helped me.. That is the best advice I have ever had in my life!!! And It wasn't even for me..lol....If your not you should be a councelor!!
I'm going thru the same thing with my bf and it's driving me nuts!! I have been with him for a yr and this crazy ex has finely started getting to me. She Text my bf the other day and called me a whore even though she doesn't know me and from what I here around town she shouldn't be calling names(very small town) I just moved here a little over yr ago and have never been with anyone in this town but the bf btw..lol
His girls are 17 and 18 and the youngest is living with us now and the oldest is in collage and lives with his parents. He is still paying child support after 6 months of the yougest living with us because the ex has been able to avoid getting served till a few days ago.. She called him up and cussed him out and he just trys to calm her down and ask if she wants to meet and talk about it, even though the only thing she wants is his money and he knows this.. They have been divorced for 11 yrs and he has never been abole to have a relationship last because of her and now I see why.
I thought I could be the bigger person and watch him let her play him for the fool becuase he said after he gets her in court it would be over but it will never be over unless he stands up to her and acts like a man. I'm starting to lose respect for him and thats not good at all.
He's a great father but he feels guilty towards his girls even though she left him and cheated with a number of men before she left.. I mean a LOT!! I work in a salon so I here it all..
I guess I moved in with him to fast but I was here all the time and never saw my apt unless I needed clothes... Stupid I know that now because when I get upset I have no where to run to except my friends or my car.. The only thing we fight about is the ex or his daughter not helping around the house, everything was fine till The daughter moved in and the calls started a few months later when she decided she no longer wanted to live with her crazy mother... I love her but I just can't trust her because I was a teenager and I know how they are when it come to another woman taking their daddy's time and the ex wife is finding out personal things about me when only the daughter can be the one telling her... The ex lives a hr 1/2 away and has no friends left here I'm pretty sure..
I told him I'm moving into my own place because I can't stand around and watch him let her talk about me like that and not stand up for me.. She also text me and said he was still in love with her and she could get him back anytime. I know It's not true but it hurts that he will let her say these things and just ignore it.. Telling me I should ignore it too because she's just a old b**** and she will say anything to upset me.
My pride has taken a good beating and he just say's ignore it!! I can't take it anymore and if he won't stand up to her then I'm not sure if I really want to be with him though I love him very much and he's the best man I have ever been with and treats me very good in every other way.
Heck I just went thru a hysterectomy with him by my side and he took very good care of me even though I was not fit to be around some days and now he has to put up with hot flashes instead of pms..lol
Anyway I just know I can't deal with this much longer and not sure if I can continue to be with him if I will have to keep dealing with his ex and her crazyness.. I'm pretty sure there is no way I can deal with her treating him like this and him just taking it. I've asked him to stand up to her but he won't and it makes me feel like a fool...
I would love your thoughts on this plz...
Here is what I would do in
Here is what I would do in your situation. You and DH block her COMPLETELY from calling/texting your phones.
BM (I'm sure) has to have a contact number for the bio-dad in case of emergencies, etc. You have a computer, I assume? Get a MagicJack. They are pretty cheap. Don't give out the number to anyone else except BM.
Then forget about her. If she calls, she HAS to leave a voicemail (trust me, if it is important, she will). This also sends an email to you with a audio file of the voicemail.
That way you have cut out 99% of communication with the crazy BM AND you have record of any craziness she may let slip during the messages.
DH and I had to have a No Contact order put into the CO for visitation because PB was so psychotic. This was prior to cell phones and all the tech things you can do to avoid contact that they have now. Made life SO much easier.
Of course, this is all dependent upon your SO NOT caving and calling when he sees the BM's number call. Oh, and depending on the age of the skids - she will have THEM call to "talk to daddy" in a veiled attempt to get him on the phone with her. HE is the only one who can stop THAT.
Or you can get google voice,
Or you can get google voice, which is free and only give her the # and she will also have to leave a message.
Do not contact her. Let all
Do not contact her. Let all communication be with the DH and the ex. Stay out of it. Insist that he only talk to her via email and only about the children. DH has no communication with BM at all. It used to be via email but now it is done through lawyers for everything...There is no reason for him to talk to her...
sorry in that lengthy post I
sorry in that lengthy post I forgot to say texting her telling her not to text him, then taking her to the shops for a nice normal happy family shopping day is once again is sending her mixed messages. Also by doing that he has pretty much made it impossible for you two to take the kids to the shops togethr for a happy family shopping trip because if he stops it now, and takes you the kids are going to blame you for stopping their mum from being there. Thus making these little everyday things difficult to do when you do marry and causes enormous strains and stresses on the relationship. But it is his choice to do it, that is what you need to look at.
I agree with the posters that
I agree with the posters that told you NOT to contact her. If she knows that "you two are working through this" then she knows she can make a problem and it might just get worse.
I am sorry you are in this situation, I think you have gotten some really good advice above.