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dazed's picture

Yes the title says it all.I am worrying about this at the mo-how honest to be with BF re. 'SS'/space.I have tried the 'don't you think 11 pm is too late for bed' with little success and virtually a 'sod you' response from him.Me and BF are arguing in general and I know I have resentment.
I want to be honest and say 'I am not enjoying every wknd/holiday here (with SS).I am being ignored/used/both of you don't care about my needs or wants.I have friends and family I want to see more.'
I don't want to hurt him but I feel I'm living a lie.I lie about why I can't get hols off work.He has said 'I want someone who wants to be with my son'. I think EOW is enough for me,I'm actually doing EW that is a lot to me.
So what do you do re discussing. emotional issues/ your space and your stepchildren?

frustratedinMA's picture

We have always had a problem discussing his kids.. he gets extremely defensive..

How old is SS??? There should def. be a bedtime est. for kids.. DH used to let his kids 6 at the time, be up til 10pm.. I made a stink a couple of times.. he was like.. but I dont get to see them that much, then I pointed out that perhaps they act up all day long because they are tired and grouchy..

I dont know if I would have stuck around if DH had the skids EW.. I know when we have them 2 weekends in a row I want to cry and rip my hair out!

LVmyBOXERS's picture

I can not say ANYTHING about skids or DH loses his mind and gets so angry. Oh and when skids are here, there is no bed time., I got up one time and went into the kitchen (ss room is right next to it) about 3am, and he was still awake. Yes, they both stay up ALL night. I stopped saying anything because it was just a constant fight with DH, With SS room being right next to the kitchen, he always eats all night long too. Fatty. I totally know what you mean about the weekends. We have EOW too and I know sometimes we will have then 2 weekends in a row and I am about ready to jump out of a freakin window. I dread them coming more than anything. They do not ackowledge me when they come in but I do not ackowledge them either. As far as how honest am I with DH, pretty darn. Almost too honest. I tell him exactly how I feel regardless of wether is wants to hear it or not. This is my house too so I have the right to express how I feel.

Elizabeth's picture

Try having SD14 EVERY week. We will have her from Feb. 4 through Feb. 22 with NO break. I am about to tear my hair out just thinking about it. And, same as you, I cannot say anything about her that is not glowing praise. And no bedtimes. When school year started (first year of high school) and SD was staying up every night until 11, I made it about one week. Then I asked husband, "What is SD's bedtime?" And he said, "I don't know." Ack.

rammerjammer's picture

Dazed...
I have always been honest about my feelings to my DH, and he has let me "vent" on many, many, many occassions. However, I have learned that being a stepmother requires a lot of patience, understanding and personal sacrifice. I have just learned to accept what our life is and make the best of it. We have had his kids every weekend & every holiday...even Christmas & Mother's Day...for the last 10 years so BM can have a social life. Early on, I had a lot of resentment because I felt like we never had any time to ourselves and we were just a free babysitter for the BM. But, here we are - 10 years and two kids later and we still don't have any time to ourselves. But we are content and I can't imagine our lives being any different.

Honestly part of our "schedule" always made me angry because I felt like I didn't have any time to myself...but, once I became a mother I realized, not many mothers do. So, in order to keep me from becoming burnt out, we made adjustments. My husband and I were fortunate enough to let me be a stay at home mom. It gives me the one on one time with my boys that I need and I get to go out to lunch & catch up with my girlfriends once a week which I DESPERATELY need. Then, I am ready for the weekends and I don't dread them as much as I did when I worked full time. Don't get me wrong, I love my SD's dearly, but it is a lot of work having four kids in your home with various friends, schedules, etc. Now, I am more refreshed and relaxed when they come over. Maybe you can suggest something like that to address your need for personal time with friends & family/space. It is vital for me. I'm sure it would be for any mom/stepmom.

Even though having SDs every weekend can be stressful, it does make me happy for my husband. I know he misses his girls and wishes they lived with us full-time. And since they don't - he at least gets to see them regularly. (I would want to see my sons as much as I could if my DH and I were divorced. I can't imagine going a whole week without seeing them...I wouldn't make it 2 days!) So, from that perspective, your boyfriend may miss his son so much that he wants to be with him every time he can. And that is admirable. But,if you aren't married, I would SERIOUSLY consider what your life is going to be like when you do marry. If every weekend bothers you now, it may not change, so you have to know if this is something you want to do for the long haul.

By the way...I love my SDs and I cherish the relationships that I have with them. They are teenagers now and we have a special bond. Our closeness may be a result of being around them so much. You too could experience that, but, it does require a lot of personal sacrifice.

I hope this helps. Smile

Sita Tara's picture

When we had SD every weekend there was little time to grow as a couple. We now have every other weekend (BM fought that tooth and nail- what kind of mom wants NO weekend time with her child anyway? I think she enjoyed having all her free, non-work time to herself.) It is heavenly on the weekends when we have no kids but our two year old. I forget how much I need that until it's not there if BM decides to not take her.

I feel for you. I think that this every weekend thing that BM's are pulling as 50/50 is wrong, very selfish. The only way I can see it is if they work retail or as food servers every weekend. Not fair otherwise.

Why is it that your BF has his son every weekend?

Peace, love, and red wine

smoke07's picture

We have my SD every week from Friday night until Monday morning when she goes to school. It sucks! I have hardly anytime with my DH during the week because we both work full time, and by the time we get home (we both have a long commute) we have no time for each other. I love those rare weekends when she is not there. I can actually unwind and do what I want! But, if you asked my DH, he would say that I was selfish because he wants his daughter 24/7, and how could I possibly NOT want her around?

frustratedinMA's picture

Here is the thing.. I almost think that if I had my skids 24/7, that I would be able to have more control in my home. Its the EOW and not having any part in shaping their manners or behavior that has me riled up most times.

The fact that my dh feels that we can not CHANGE the skids in 2 days, I think is why he doesnt want to parent. I notice that the longer they stay w/us, vaca's and such, the more he is inclined to correct them..

But.. only having them on weekends and then having them every weekend is NOT fair to the NCP and that person's spouse. The CP is getting away w/having their cake and eating it too... Free sitting on the weekend, where they ensure that their former spouse cant have a life!

LVmyBOXERS's picture

"not having any part in shaping their manners or behavior that has me riled up most times." I know this is the case. DH has told me on more than one occasion we can not reverse the damage done by BM in 2 days so he does not really bother. Skids stay holled up in their room the 2 days they are here so there is no interaction to speak of really. DH goes in there for a few minutes every so often. Maybe 2 or 3 times a day. There is really no parenting at our house. We do not see them when they are here and they do not really see us. We have started going about our business like it was a normal day when they are here because there is no interation. It is sad but that is what has happened. BM won.

Sita Tara's picture

Your statement sounds a lot like my own when we were fighting for custody. The therapist warned us that BM would be even more manipulative with SD after we won. And she was right. I never dreamed that SD would turn into mini-BM with LESS time with her. But she has and she defends her mother like a bear defends it's cubs. She reads a put down into every single simple thing that comes up about her mom. Even when her dad says, "Did your mother call you back yet?" because he needs to talk to BM about something and SD snaps, "Don't say mean things about her....I didn't leave a message...she didn't get the message...etc"

But the truth is, a manipulative bio parent will use whatever means they have to invade your home, no matter if they don't ever see their kids (think of Cruella's situation.) It's sad but true.

My question is...what is it about our kids that makes them follow the craziness like a moth to a flame???

Peace, love, and red wine

LVmyBOXERS's picture

has ALWAYS defended BM. I do not understand how they can think the craziness she displays is normal. Of course, they probably do not know a lot of the things she has done to us either. One day though, the truth will come out and maybe then, they will see she was the one wrong all along. My only escape is to let things continue as is. Do not have anything to do with them. I have been trying to force myself not to ask stupid questions to DH. Things like how he knew when and where to pick up kids, things like that. I really do not know what else to do. I am a bit obsessive about things a lot of times and I would literally drive me and him crazy asking things about any and every conversation they had. So I have stopped. I try to put her and the skids out of my mind. I know that is cruel, but that is my only hope for sanity...

Sita Tara's picture

Sanity and parenthood...

another oxymoron to add to my ever growing list!

Peace, love, and red wine

rachaemdea's picture

Same problem, but we don't have EOW because we live 100 miles away but the younger two SD's have, what we've deemed, an eating dissorder and it's really tearing me and my hubby apart when they are here. We're both so passionate about it that we fight a lot. The youngest SD4 has said she's not coming to our house anymore because she doesn't like the noise he makes when he yells at me about the food issues.

We don't fight about the problem we fight because we both want to fix it but know that we only have 5 days max with them. In the summer we have 3 weeks and if we did it this summer, we could get somewhere. As long as SD8 can go home and cry to BM, she'll get her way and have a heart attack when she's 20. Her poor arteries.

BF doesn't want to cause a fight because of the "we only have them for a short time". I, by nature, want to fix the problem and get is solved and the sooner the better. SD8 is extremely emotional about it and cries at the drop of a hat if you mention food to her.

We've told our lawyer about this all so we'll see what happens.

I hate fighting with him but I just get so frustrated becasue i know as soon as they go home, all goes back to normal because BM doesn't think there's a problem with only eating breaded, fried food and NO fruits or veggies to speak of..

BM compaires me to SD8 (i'm a chunky girl) and says I'm not one to complain about SD8's weight...it's not her weight, she's young she can lose it, it's that she's still growing! I'm 5'2'' and not getting any taller but SD8 is only 8! She's got 10 more years of development... UGH!

sarahbernheart's picture

I think he eats cuz he is bored and I think he wants to be like his dad (my FH) who can eat whatever he wants without gaining an ounce (ooow that makes me mad hheehe) but unfortunatley the BS does not have a fast metabalism so he is over weight BUT I can not say anything about it...and it goes ignored when he is at our place.
I think my FH feels the same as yours that he is only there such a short time..no sense causing a scene I suppose.
still to risk his health??
I dont get it.

“You will never be on top of the world
if you try to carry it on your shoulders.”

Most Evil's picture

I have been around my DH/SD for about 7.5 years. The first 2-3 years I tried to always be polite, tiptoe around the no manners, etc. but after we were married a while I started letting it fly. Not to SD but to DH. His family never made their kids do anything either, but DH got away from them at 18 and is relatively normal.

If you don't point out a health issue or social niceties they may never know and fit in in the real world like they need to to be happy. Even if we end up getting divorced I am contributing to that kid by applying the 'bullsh*t meter' to the stupid stuff. It has been hard and now SD/BM hate me but I really don't care, at least she knows how to act more and is actually doing a lot better.

Oh and re. how you feel about being around SS in this case it is DH who needs a reality check. Be as kind as you can but he needs to know unless he places limits he is not helping his child, he is hurting him. If DH can't take that, you would be miserable with him anyway. Keep your independence just in case, we all have to do that to really help these kids like they do need someone too, even it is not the popular view.

"Fortune favors the brave" - Virgil

Angel's picture

I was VERY honest. I have raised my kids & to start over with a teenager was not in my plans. I even stated plainly that I couldn't live with any kids NO MATTER WHAT, THAT IF ANYTHING EVER HAPPENED (God forbid) to his X, that he would have to move out.

He accepted me that way. I haven't changed. Don't want to be around anyone's kids----DONE DONE DONE

AND DON'T JUDGE ME. You need to walk a mile in my shoes, and be where I've been to begin to comprehend.

sixxnguns's picture

sometimes brutally honest because everyone else around FH seems to sugar coat everything and blame it all on BM...I see from both sides now BOTH families are to blame for the way he is turning out. But they seem to blame everyone, including my daughter, but themselves! So I say it the way it is now...I was nice at first but noone seems to listen to the parent who uses her BRAIN and doesn't want to be friends with her child...of course I want my daughter to be happy but I'll be damned if she walks all over me and I allow it to make my child happy...

the whole problem on our end is everyone feels guilty cause golden child's parents got divorced....yeah of course it's sad, BUT my child has been sexually abused and has seen her BD physically abuse me, should I feel sorry for her cause she's been through sooo much? I do but I don't let it affect my parenting! I know it's hard not to do it that way but think of your child 5 years from now if you keep parenting through guilt...I won't let my daughter turn into a monster because I'm too "soft"...no way...and I've decided, FSS isn't my child and I just can't let myself care anymore because it's affecting both my physical and mental health, I'm leaving it up to everyone else who feels sorry for him...

ColorMeGone2's picture

My nieces are like your stepdaughters, dazed. They won't eat anything that is even remotely healthy. The only "fruit" they will eat is baby applesauce. Not regular applesauce, but baby food. They are 10 and 3. Yes, the 10yo still eats baby food and her mother lets her. Why? Because, as my SIL says, "That's all she'll eat." Sometimes I just want to smack my SIL and tell her that they will eat whatever you put in front of them once they are hungry enough. Nothing grates on my nerves more than sitting down to eat with my husband's sister and her family, watching her 10yo eat baby food with a can of Coke.

The whole eating healthy thing really has to start with their first ever feeding. I breastfed both of mine, but once they started on "real" food, I held off on anything sweet for a long time. They got cereal first, then the yellow veggies, then the green veggies, then the strained meats. They didn't start on fruits until after they were accustomed to eating the stuff that wasn't sweet. Now that they are big kids, they like to snack on veggies and fruit. They eat everything I put on their plates. They don't really turn their noses up at anything. I never gave them a choice when they were small, so they don't even try to rebel with food now. They are pretty good eaters, both of them, much unlike my nieces, who won't eat anything that's not in a McDonald's bag. My MIL has tried to get my nieces to eat better and has talked to her daughter about making them eat better, but to no avail. I think my SIL let it go on too long and now she's just lost all control over her children. If she tries now to be a hardass about meals, it ends up in tantrums and the kids always end up winning.

I wish you lots of luck with this, because I think you'll need it. It's gone on for too long and you don't have a willing partner in BM to change the girls' eating habits.

Sita Tara's picture

DH was the only one who ever cooked. He did a good job putting fruit and veggies on the table. BUT...

He told me that when they were married BM wouldn't cook, or even LET HIM cook. They ate out almost every meal. For the longest time we would have family meals, and SD would want to "order" something else. I put my foot down. Luckily DH is a very practical man and he knew that a "short order kitchen" was not healthy for the kids. Occasionally now that they're older, if DH and I don't feel like cooking we let them cook something like mac and cheese. They would eat that for lunch every day if we let them (we don't.) We limit that or hot dogs to nights when we need a break (once a week or less.) The rest of the time time I cook a family meal. All the kids don't like it but too bad. Luckily my ex and his wife cook every meal and they sit at the table too, so there's consistency for my sons. But BM orders pizza or takes SD out for every meal. Even breakfast. They do not keep much food if any in the house. NO milk, no veggies or fruit. Just poptarts or chips and diet soda. That's all BM has in her house.

Ridiculous.

Peace, love, and red wine

dazed's picture

Thanks for all your replies and useful comments.I guess I am very fearful of my future and being honest with BF-I don't know if anyone else feels the same.If I am honest and frank he may well leave me.
I know this may sound bad but I can cope with 'SS' for short periods of time.When it gets over about 1.5/2 days I feel tired and stressed.We don't have big blow ups or anything.
BF has often said he would like 'SS' FT if he wanted.
The same things keep coming up.Why I can't have more days holiday with them, extend my EW weekends with them etc with days off from work (I don't live with BF)..
What do I say-I am not coping,and not enjoying it as much as them? My BF will not take anything like me saying 'I just want to see friends and family/have some space'.He doesn't accomodate them.
I have depression and also need to look after myself,that's not all their fault I know.
Ty

sarahbernheart's picture

and everything else will follow.
One thing I am learning is that I have to make myself happy then I can make others happy IF they want to be.
some people will never be happy or content and you need to remove yourself from them cuz they will slowly posion you.
take care dazed, we are here for you!

“You will never be on top of the world
if you try to carry it on your shoulders.”

anncanbike's picture

Yes, its true. If you are happy then yippe! We SM work so hard & try to get things right, alittle happiness would definitely be in order. Do what makes you happy. Although I found happiness is sometimes short-lived...example: I did that I need help with, I took a dumb mag. out of mailbox yesterday & can't seem to toss it or put w/incoming mail. I'm referring to the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue. Last year the issue worshipped by DH & swins, this year I thought No. What should I do with the magazine?

dazed's picture

He only sympathises to a point about my depression (which can be dormant but flares up again).I was off work sick for 6 weeks and he was concerned at first then tried to get me to get in his car and go to his more (some of the week when SS not there and weekend).I tried to explain how I felt and I was exhausted and the doctor said I should get REST.
I cannot say this is just due to him and 'SS' as there are other factors and I get it anyway.However,being over there every weekend,bank hols etc is making me shattered and Sun eve/Mon mornings aren't good for me.However, SS going to bed at 11pm+ every Sat and arguing with everyone (his Dad more-they're both shouting etc) and SS control of everything is tiring.
BF said to me 'I didn't realise I was part of your sickness problem/I should make you feel better'.Arghh

ColorMeGone2's picture

Is this a case of right man, wrong situation?

♥ Georgia ♥

"Good men don't just happen. They have to be created by us women." (from ROSEANNE)

dazed's picture

I think I am fairly honest with myself.I'm not sure he's the right man either! When I started with BF and 'SS' his son came every other weekend and a Wednesday, then changed after a year+ to every weekend.I have tried to be fair with 'SS' but also helpful.I have never pretended to be expert but suggested things that have been ignored then come true-e.g. that he had some learning needs/dyslexia.I personally think it is wrong for anyone to demand and expect all the whole free days a person has-whether that be in a stepfamily or outside and give nothing back to the relationship.Everyone needs their tank refilled-that includes stepmums etc-a relationship won't be happy if there isn't some space for hobbies etc.And I am going to get some more counselling (he won't come)

Angel's picture

all of the posts two things popped out at me. Firstly, I heard a couple of you talk about the EOW turning into two weekends in a row. That happened here a couple of times & I WANTED TO DIE! When I realized how it was affecting me, I stopped allowing it in MY HOME. It was so easy for the SS, DH, and BM to make plans for me in MY HOME. It has NEVER happened again. If the man/child needs to switch weekends, my dh goes to visit him instead of bringing him to spend the night (losing the weekend). The schedule DOES NOT CHANGE.

You said:
If I am honest and frank he may well leave me.
I know this may sound bad but I can cope with 'SS' for short periods of time.When it gets over about 1.5/2 days I feel tired and stressed.

You sound VERY NORMAL & so does your bf. A relationship without honesty is doomed. & if you're honest it is doomed. Sweetie, read the writing on the wall. It isn't your fault----it is the circumstances. I'D FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME WAY. He needs a woman that has no children (so doesn't know the mess she's getting into), one that can't read (so she can't find this website), or one that is so desperate for a man that she'll put up with anything. Don't settle. You're not married yet! You can get out!