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Ladystark's picture

I am not a stickler for ss13 calling me mom or stepmom, but im starting to get annoyed. I cant mention it to dh yet, because one i do not want him forcing ss to call me step mom or mom, also id like a plan.

Ok ss has been trying just to call me by my first name. I like Ms.lady...i like the miss part, one because im an adult and i dont think he should just call me by my first name.

Two he has problems with adult/ friend boundries- dh messed him up on that by being a friend. So i dont want him just calling me by my first name.

Well he has tried a few times just calling me by my first name, i let it go, not tryinv to start anything just yet.

But i just went in his phone, he has always had my name in his phone MISS lady...no last name.

Well now its my name and my MAIDEN NAME, he has it grouped with my sisters. And dropped the miss.

Im not happy about that, ive had my husbands last name for 4years now!

Like wtf kid, im not your friend, this is not ok with me.

But im not sure what to do.

Should i just say eff it?
Should i have him start calling me stepmom? Ugh i dont want to push anything on him, but i also dont want him to think its ok to drop the MISS. I feel its puts me in a friend zone.

*i have not talked to anyone about this, i have not demanded ss call me anything.

Ss has always called me "misslady", he has tried recently to drop the miss and just call me by my first name. I have not corrected(yet), i have just noticed it. He seems to feel its awkward as he goes right back to miss later.

I noticed it in his phone and to me it seems a little cold, on his part.

At this point in our relationship id love for him to call me something else, some people wrote like "mommaA" or maybe something funny like boss lady, or mommydearest!

That be great!

I have a lovey names i call him, like buddy, g-dog or by his crazy xbox name.

He is so tall now i feel like calling him gumby(but he would not get it at all) or shaggy.

Anyway ill probably just correct him and keep this to myself, but it just hurts a little that i think he will keep doing little things to show im not apart of HIS family.

Im trying to include him, the best i can.

Like dh told him about going to the beach this summer to see our family. Dh is telling him some details.

Now this trip is with my mother and stepfather.

Ss goes "wait were going to see HER family? This trip is not with OUR side?"

Dh goes "we are seeing our family, they are your grandparents."

Ss "can i stay here with my grandma?"

I hear this but i say nothing. Im just getting tired of him Pulling this stuff.

I dont care if he goes or not, dh will probably end up bribing him to go, then act like ss got on board on his own, eye roll....

Its a small thing- i know but it just bothers me- my madien name was NEVER in his phone. So i guess it just stung alittle, that instead of a funny name, or a silly font, or something, its my formal old name. Just kind of cold.

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shawna777marie's picture

The maiden name this is a total disrespectful thing in my opinion. I would nip that in the bud asap.

Ladystark's picture

And he has his dads labeled as daddylastname

Oh and in notes ot says "bleh"

Man things have been going so good but i feel really irritated by this.

shawna777marie's picture

I was asking myself, why doesn't my ss like me?? And after much reflection I think it has nothing to do with me.... my ss mom is a lunatic and he is half her... im about 3 years in on this nightmare so I don't know the right thing... but I really think their issues are just about them not us.

ChickieDee's picture

You snooped through his phone and got pissed at how your name is labelled? Hmmm. I don't change my married friends names in my phone either. It's not disrespectful. It's my phone and I'm not changing everyone's name when they get married.

Ladystark's picture

He has never had my maiden name in his phone, and yes i check his phone, he is a child...like ive said in other posts, i know some do not agree but at 13 i monitor, he can have more privacy in high school.

notasm3's picture

It's your choice. Just politely tell him to call you Miss Lady or Mrs. Stark whichever you prefer.

For some reason I always called my mother's friends by their first names while my sister always called them Mrs. Last Name. (13 year age difference). But I'd have changed to Mrs. lname in a nanosecond if I'd ever been asked to do so.

Ladystark's picture

We started monitoring it when he got the phone, i started really checking, when a couple things happened back to back.

One- he was in trouble for grades so i had his phone for three days, a girl wrote some rude things called him a dick, mind you this is when he turned 12, so this girl was 11 or 12, text my ss that he is a dick and some other things, because he was not answering, oh and yes i got her name and texted her back!!

Two he was searching some weird sites.
Three- he was hanging out with a neighborhood kid, but the mom was overly friendly, the mom is 40, but texting my ss like a teenager, then there is a pic of her, on ss phone of her in her bedroom... uh. Do any of you text your kids friends on the daily? Inviting a 13 year old up to your house for your kid?? Texting in teen slang??

Hmm. So yes we monitor....

shawna777marie's picture

As far as I'm concerned step (parents)are still parents and need to parent. My ss 10 is not parented at his moms and will and has watched totally inappropriate things including videos on Satan worshipping. Why wouldn't you go through their phone and monitor what they do??? And of course he's being disrespectful by changing it to her maiden name. We can't make them love us but when my SS is here he will show me respect.... when he's at his moms he tells lies about me and does whatever... but not in my home.

shawna777marie's picture

He wants to be friends... it's been crazy!! One crazy example is food... we would be going out to dinner and my husband would ask me "where do you want to go" and I would say oh how about this place and he says no because SS will eat anything there. He used to only eat chicken nuggets, cheeseburgers, french fries and pizza this went on for a year... i had to cook around him until I decided this is absolutely ridiculous he's going to eat what we eat, what I make for dinner he's going to have to eat. My husband freaked out on me, BM freaked out said I'm evil, mean, crazy for making her baby eat food he doesn't want to eat....

Ladystark's picture

No biomom here- only thing close to mom is grandma and great grandma, and well me.

Same boat daddy is friend.

Daddy totally backs me up checking on his phone because he does not have time, i check phone if anything is off i show dad, then he talks to ss about stuff, and i back up.

Ill never not check.

When he can pay for his own phone, he can do whatever.

BethAnne's picture

You can only really demand that he call you in the way that you wish to your face. You cannot control what he calls you to others or in his private writings. So correct away when he slips up in front of you but forget about the phone. Kids have few outlets to express their feelings and emotions. His tiny act of rebellion on his phone does not really impact you in any real way. Let him have it. He will probably change it back when he gets over whatever is going on now or when he matures some more.

AshMar654's picture

I agree with this. Seriously getting upset with him calling you by your name. Hello plenty of stepkids call their stepparents by their first name and first name only. I did since I met my stepdad. My soon to be stepson calls me by my first name all time and his 8. This is pretty routine and normal. You absolutely need to let this go. Your are being picky and super controlling.

Ladystark's picture

Well it goes by the alphabet, so being miss- my name starts with A, so it was pretty easy i was at he top, but putting my madien name made it close to the bottom. So i think it was pretty easy for him, and since im home if anything happens at school, or after school he has to call and check in with me, so why put me at the bottom? I mean if he wants to scroll through names thats on him.

He is not allowed to have fb, or twitter, till he brings up grades...which at this point he might as well wait till highschool.

twoviewpoints's picture

Because your his stepmom and he's 13yrs old. I use various ways in my phone list to drop some people down and move others up. I want who I want to call/text up top...all others get dropped down. There but not a priority.

Your first name usually works for most people by their stepkids. Ridiculous to demand a kid call you 'mom' if you're not Mom. Gripping straws to demand 'Miss Stepmom/Stepmom' ....seriously you won't have an identity crisis on who you really are if the kid calls you by your first name or (if absolutely insisted on) Miss First Name.

Think about it. How many time have you really ever heard a skid talking to their SM and saying 'Hey, Stepmom'? Ever?

Using someone's first name is not necessarily being their 'friend'. It's simply less formal in what is a more causal setting aka home/family. Does your skid call his father 'Mr. Dad'?

Kinda strange that you claim Dad is too busy to monitor his son's phone, but not too busy to speak to his son about a concern after you do the monitoring then inform Dad. If he has 'time' for one, he has time for the other.

Just my two cents, but if you don't stepback a bit and slow down on your I'm the Mommy kick, the kid is going to start putting you down as Miss B*tch in his listing.

Ladystark's picture

What are you talking about?

I wish you people would read!

I am not DEMANDING he call me anything.

I said i have NOT said anything about it yet! Jesus...if i was so wound up i would have started a fight, but i came here.

I have not said a word to anyone that it bothers me!

Good lord

Wow at some point some families call step mom- mom... also i have read posts where everyone freaks out, when the kid called stepmom- mom, so i have not pushed it.

Id rather him Try calling me mom, than just my first name. He has called me miss lady on his own for so long, that it sounds WEIRD, and must be weird to him as he has tried it a few times, and goes right back to miss lady later.

I have not corrected him or said a word about it, but i have noticed it!

notsurehowtodeal's picture

You asked if you should have him call you "Stepmom." Do you mean he should literally call you "Stepmom?" Like "Stepmom" please pass the potatoes?

I have never heard of anyone who uses the word "Stepmom" like they would use the word "Mom" when interacting face to face with their stepmom. Sure, when talking to others it makes sense to use "Stepmom" - as in my "Stepmom" took me to the store.

I get wanting random kids to use "Miss" - I don't understand why you require that of your SS.

Ladystark's picture

Uh its our home not his fathers- ss lives with us FULLTIME, no bio mom, like why comment if you dont read anything.

Acratopotes's picture

:jawdrop: I get her... dang we are not these children's besties we are adults, why should you allow a snot face kid to call you by your first name like he's you bestie?

Ladystark's picture

Holy cow, thank you... geez i feel like im going crazy trying to explain it, and they all want to go crazy over the phone! Not all of us are laid back and let our kids do whatever with technology.

Ive read and seen to many stories where parents had no idea their kid was being bullied, wanted to commit sucide, or having a hard time.

I will not be that parent thats says. Oh i didnt know. And middle schoolers are at the most risk!

Acratopotes's picture

but LadyStark although your attentions are good and your heart in the right place... do not forget SS is not your child, all you can do is tell DH if he's being bullied.... hopefully DH will step up...

me on the other hand... pffftttt I don't touch the brat's phone, I don't care what she calls me behind my back, even if I know what she calls me, and to be honest... Aergia will never be bullied, she's the bully..

Ladystark's picture

Yup mine too.... if someone is older than me i still feel weird refering to them by first name! Lol. Like my husbands great grandma, i called her misswhatever, she was like just call me...., but its getting easier the more i do it, but i still feel this twinge of this is wrong. Lol.

Ladystark's picture

He tells his friends im miss lady, he has never called me stepmom, ive heard his friends call me stepmom.

Like "is your stepmom making dinner?"
Him "who? Oh you mean miss lady, yeah dinner..."

Hello been around him since he was 6!!

Ugh.

Im sorry im offended i know its not a huge big deal, but i have felt lately we have been getting along really well, kind of hurts alittle.

I have never demanded it, when dh introduced me, it was this is miss lady, and it stuck. But i feel miss lady is better than just my name as i said, he thinks adults are friends, dh has treated him as a friend, and now that he is a teen, dh tries to demand respect, or asks ss to do something, ss will say NO.

Ive always made sure he knew i had a line and ive tried to teach him, that somethings he jokes about with his friends are not ok with adults.

Its been a long road.

Like dh told him your chore is trash, but did not show him or teach him how to help with trash, so i had to show him.

Then i told dh you have to teach him, you can just tell him take out trash, when he has never done a chore in his whole life!

But him now trying to call me by my first name, i guess its weird, like when my friend in high school tried to call her mom by her first name, her mom grounded her. I have a hard time now calling my mom anything else.

I guess i feel "miss lady" is equvalant to "mom" or as close as ill get.

Ladystark's picture

Y'all make fun if you want, but i think it hurts a little, i like having some respect shown to me.

There are lines in the sand we all do not want crossed, sorry if its a silly thing.

ItsGrowingOld's picture

Why don't you ask SS why he stopped calling you Miss Ladystark? Let him know you kinda miss that connection with him, etc. See what he has to say about it Smile

Ladystark's picture

I like that... maybe ill ask him when i have him in the car to baseball practice, keep the convo real light.

Acratopotes's picture

Simply tell him NO, I'm Ms Lady......... keep repeating it over and over and over.....

I still do it with Aergia, she will call my by my first name, I simply tell her, I'm not Acra for you I'm Ms Acra, we did not play in the same sandpit ....

SO once dared saying what's the problem, I looked at him and said, I'm an adult, she's a child we are not friends thus she will not call me by my name...

LochnessStepMonster's picture

I would just start correcting him when he says your first name. Don't discuss it with anyone just do it. If he does it in front of peiple then correct him then too.

Kids here don't call adults by their first name. I my SD calls me Ms. as well.

MrsZipper's picture

Most stepmoms in the US are called by their first names. If you keep making a big deal out of the issue you may end up not being called any name at all except her, she, or that woman. I was "her" for a few years and would have greatly preferred to be called by my first name.

AshMar654's picture

Agree and same here about all situations I know with skids step parent calling them by a certain name.

AshMar654's picture

I grew up in texas and yes same thing you address people as miss or mister. With that said when the step was full time or really involved they lost that first part and was either called by their name or mom/dad or mom x/ dad x.

As for ma'am and sir oh I had to address my own parents that way when I was younger. I am 31 now and I love when a kid calls me ma'am, I am in PA now. It just reminds me of really good manners does not make me feel old at all like some people complain about.

I will say I do not say it as much as I use to but occasionally with older people I will still. I miss the manners that were so much instilled in kids when I grew up in Texas.

Ladystark's picture

Id appreciate a nickname at this point in our relationship.... everyone keeps say im being "cold" or "formal" he is the one that stuck with "miss", when he tries calling me by first name its very awkward.

If he labeled me boss that be funny.

I feel its a little cold on his end to label me with my madien name.

I call him "buddy" i used to call him "lilman" but now he is taller than me so im working on a new name as he lurches over me.

But i think its endering when you have a nice nickname.

I go for momand first initial, id settle for bosslady, or whatever. It just stung alittle seeing my formal old name in his phone, not very warm.

at one time he was calling himself YOLOKING. Lol i had him labled as that, right now its just his name as im working on a tall nickname for him.

AJanie's picture

Now I understand where you are coming from better.

The intention behind what he is doing is a little hurtful... I grasp that a bit more now.

So many times I feel the skids do little things to "show me" I am not family. DH thinks I exaggerate it, his little darlings would never do that!

Just like "mother's intuition" ... We have stepmother's intuition.

Ladystark's picture

Yes! Thank you for the way you wrote that!!

I have a hard time explaining myself- i am not a writer, but im trying as this is the best outlet i have!

secondplace's picture

I used to call my Mom's sisters "Aunt Firstname" when I was younger. As I got older, I dropped the Aunt part.

My daughter's friends used to call me "Mrs Lastname". Now that they're older, they call me by my first name.

Perhaps that is the way it is for your SS. He was 6 when you came into his life. Now he's 13 and he just wants to drop the "Miss".

I don't feel he's being disrespectful at all and I certainly wouldn't take offense to it.

AJanie's picture

I think it is a little cold and formal to expect your stepkid to call you "miss." Not trying to be rude - just my personal opinion.

Tuff Noogies's picture

i have never been anything other than "tuff" (a shortened form of my first name). it is very much a southern thing to refer to adults with authority as "miss first name", however it just doesnt work with my name and would feel weird to me. even tho' she is a world-class piece of $#!t, they have already have a mother.

i also feel them calling me "tuff" is affectionate - no one calls me that unless they are in my inner circle. and when he's in one of his $#!tty-@$$ moods, kaos calls me "HUUUURRRRRRRRRR" lol!

it is strange that in his phone he's got your info listed with your maiden name. but i wouldnt say anything about that.

Ladystark's picture

Im usually-SHEEEE- she said this, she told me whatever.

I think id actually feel better if he labeled me as SHE, lol. Thats more personal.

BSgoinon's picture

This whole thread frustrates me.

I check SS's phone. DH does not. DH and I are a team. That is one of the things I do, because well... he works a lot, I have the "mom instinct" and can tell when something is just not right... DH wasn't born with that instinct. The phone is paid out of our joint (we only have joint) account, and I work so I guess I do pay the bill if that's how you want to see it. But FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, everyone's household runs differently. WHO CARES!?!?! OP's child has no biomom, she is the "mom" in his life. It's not like they just started dating, or she just moved in. Who cares how other people run their household from day to day. It's not like she was in his phone trying to sabotage his relationship with his BM or something sinister. She was doing what MOST MOMS do with their 13 year old kids, making sure he's not being bullied, bullying, sending or receiving inappropriate texts... searching inappropriate websites. Sheesh, let her and DH decide who's "job" it is to do that. I'm sure I will get bashed for that, but I don't see why the most insignificant things are focused on here. Let's talk about the REAL issue, the blatant disrespect.

It is clear that this kid is just being $hitty. Her name was once saved in his phone in one manner, and now he has intentionally changed it to her maiden name. That.is.shitty. I would be upset too. Each family has their own idea of what is respectful and acceptable. She doesn't want to be called by her first name by a child that she is helping raise, as a parental figure. So be it, he should respect that.

OP- I am wondering if he just feels that the "Miss" is a little juvenile? Every time I hear it I feel like they are talking to their preschool teacher. Maybe have a talk with him (with DH present) about why he is changing it after so many years. There has to be a reason. And I am sure it has nothing to do with you. Maybe he's having issues dealing with BM not being in his life. I imagine that would take a toll on a kid. Communication is key. Every few years I will as SS what he would like to call me, because he has a nickname for me that derived when he was learning how to talk (he was 1 year old) and we get weird looks when he calls me that in public. He tells me "I don't know how to change it at this point, that's just who you are". But I certainly don't want to embarrass him with the name he calls me in front of his friends. They all know me and know why he calls me that, I do kind of wonder what will happen next year when he goes to high school We will revisit it again then.

twoviewpoints's picture

As a SM who also had my SS fulltime 24/7 365 a year , I have no issues with you checking the kids phone...up until it becomes an issue to the kid. There were no cell phones back during the days of my SS living at home, so checking it wasn't heard of. Back then it was making sure I knew where the kid was, with who, his friends ect.

When and/or if the kid becomes resentful or a butthead over having his phone checked, IMO, that's when the actual parent (in OP's case, Dad) should take the responsibility. Again, IMO, no father should be too busy to play his role of parent if the kid is giving SM a hard time.

I also have no problem with a child calling his/her fulltime SM 'mom', IF it is on the child's own choosing and desire to do so. I don't think they should be expected or asked to do so. I did get the "Mom" title. Well, most of the time. I also got HEEEERRRRR, SSSSHHHHEEEEE, Meanest Mom Ever, and yeah, the occasional first name. Even today , after all these years, SS will always refer to me as "mom" when speaking about me to his dad, family, siblings, friends. Strangely enough though, he'll occasionally then turn to me and call me 'first name'. No clue why or what's going through his head. It certainly doesn't offend me.

Back to the phone for a minute. At thirteen a kid is more likely to have his friends up top. He's also likely to have a friend or two lurking around while using his phone if not the friend perhaps borrowing phone to make a quick call/text. Not many teens (step or bio) going to want "Miss Lady" front top and center. No big deal if Dad, Mom, SM/SF get knocked down. When it comes down to it, we all know who the kid is really going to call (and call first) if he needs something or anything important happens. It's going to be Dad, Mom, SM/SF and dependent on which one of them is the chosen 'to be first' contact person for the child.

I think young teens sometimes use their phones as their first freedom of self expression. Sure , a parent or stepparent usually pays for phone (only a technical thing for the kid), but the teen sees the phone as his/her. They pick the persons id name for listing, sound for the individual ect. It's a form of their first expression of the "I am so cool now and this is my phone" .

Of course, none of that is to say that if the kid is abusing his/her phone that who giveth can't taketh away. They are kid. Teen kids are PITA whether step or bio. They can be naïve, obnoxious and careless. They need supervision. They need guidance. But they also need to begin to be able to have a wee bit of freedom and independence. Somewhere there's a happy middle.

Ladystark's picture

I get what your saying, but he still could have put our last name, after my name and i would be at the bottom of the list.

Putting my maiden name just bothers me. He got his phone two years AFTER we were married. And he did not even care to know my madien name till my sister was over here and he was shoving his phone in her face, and she put her name in his phone.

So i dont know what his problem is, and this is why i kept my mouth shut about it.

Im glad i vented here first-eye opener- for sure!

Ladystark's picture

Thats a good point, maybe it is time to sit down as a family and kind of let him know its ok for him to try out a new name.

Maybe we can see how he feels about calling me some type of "mom" name.

Thank you.

Ladystark's picture

Yes he knows, he had to sign a phone contract to get the phone.
We have to know all passwords, blah blah..

I was in his phone giving him back his internet, he lost it because he failed 3 tests. This next round of testing he did really good, so i was unblocking the internet. He wants netflixs back but dh and i agreed he will have to wait till summer to get that back- its just to much of a distraction for him.