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Show up at MIL’s for Thanksgiving and SS is there

strugglingSM's picture

This year, SSs are with BM for Thanksgiving under the CO. Earlier this month, MIL says to DH, "I looked at pictures from last year and SSs were here last year, so they are not with you this year." DH confirms. As we're driving to MiL's house, DH gets a text from MIL saying, "oh, by the way, SS texted me on Monday and asked if he could come to thanksgiving. BM says it's okay. He's going to help me with my Christmas lights. Other SS went to California." So, a couple of things - 1) I can guarantee, based on MiL's past behavior that she texted SS and asked him what he was doing for Thanksgiving and if he wanted to come over. This is despite DH asking MiL repeatedly not to meddle with the CO because anytime BM perceives herself to have "given" anything, she then tries to demand something in return (like when DH skipped a weekend after being admitted to the hospital unexpectedly and then BM claimed her "owed" her by taking skids for a full week (which he would have had to take off unpaid from work to get skids to school) so she could go on vacation with now exH #2). My assumption is also supported by the fact that SS wanted to leave after dinner to go do things with his friends and MIL told him he couldn't because "your mother doesn't want you driving after dark." When DH heard MIL telling SS he had to stay, he chuckled and said, "you have more rules here than at my house." Also, SSs both drive all over creation and are basically unsupervised when with BM, so either MIL was totally making it up or BM just wanted SS to not come home. 2) We then spent thanksgiving dinner talking about BM and BM's family and then BIL asked me a question that made it clear he knows nothing about my family, despite knowing who people are in BM's extended family. DH and I have been married for almost 7 years, so not like I'm just meeting his family. 3) DD is 2, but MIL always claims that "I'm just not used to babies", so doesn't ever have anything to entertain DD. She wanted us to bring a high chair and a bunch of toys for her. This is despite the fact that she makes special food and has special activities for DH's niece who is now 9 and has had those every year I've known DH. Also, I'm the one who ends up entertaining and watching DD the entire time because no one else is interested in her. In contrast, my mother has filled her home with toys and whatever a toddler could want, even though she lives across the country and we've only been out once due to COVID. Also, the one time we were there my entire extended family was practically lining up at the door to spend time with her. MIL will periodically whine to DH that she "never sees" DD, but when she does she barely interacts with her, gets offended if she feels that DD doesn't give her enough attention, and I have asked if she would help by taking DD for a few hours here and there and she is always "busy" with other things.

DH has accepted that his mother is dysfunctional, so he just goes with the flow, but I think it's so rude that she just makes plans with SS and doesn't even bother letting DH know...and the fact that she has repeatedly lied and acted like she didn't make plans, only to be outed later (usually when she admits that the plans were her idea, without realizing it). It also drives me crazy that she basically ignores DD while falling over backwards for SSs and BIL's kids. She also says not nice things about her, like telling SSs that she's "spoiled" and "your father needs to realize he has 3 kids!". She told SSs the latter repeatedly when DD was an infant and we decided not to do certain things, like drive for hours to go to a barbecue because we had a 3 month old. 

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lieutenant_dad's picture

MILs can be a real PITA, can't they? Mine hasn't met DD yet and probably won't before Christmas even though all the other grandparents have. It's all because of her past behavior and DH not being willing to go out of his way for her to meet DD. She and BIL don't have a car so can't get to our house, and I refuse to allow DD in their house (it's absolutely disgusting - and I have the same rule for my dad's house because he is a hoarder). I'd be more inclined to have made the extra effort had she behaved appropriately in the past, but even DH is done with her so I just follow his lead.

Are you wanting to keep DD from your MIL? I wouldn't blame you if you did. No reason to expose DD to someone who doesn't have nice things to say about her (as a TODDLER). Granted, you can't really stop DH from taking her around MIL, but you certainly don't have to help make it happen, especially when you're stuck acting like a babysitter versus a family member at events.

strugglingSM's picture

I don't trust MIL alone with DD, but at this point, for a few hours to get things done, I would let MIL watch her. I have asked MIL if she would help us in that way and she always says she'll reach out, but never does. The few times we've asked, she has been unavailable. 

I don't go out of my way to keep DD from seeing MIL, but also don't go out of my way to make opportunities for MIL to see DD. I feel that MIL is dismissive of DD and I don't like it. For example, we had some chocolates in a decorative container on our counter. MIL makes a big show of taking one and popping it in her mouth in front of DD, so then DD wants one. My mother who was also there tells DD, "no, no!" Then DD (20 months at the time) starts to cry. I then turn and say, "she can have one of those" (because we do let her have an occasional chocolate and my philosophy is that unless it's alcohol or something unsafe, my child shouldn't have to watch everyone else eat something and be told she can't have it, just because she's a toddler). So, I give her a chocolate and MIL says, in a snarky tone, "DD always gets what she wants." This is the same woman who always told DH that he had to entertain SSs when they were with him and let them drink as much soda and eat as much junk as they wanted. She also spends at least $400 on each of them every Christmas (and then tells DH she didn't get him anything because she spent so much on SSs) and tells DH he has to "make it up to them", if he ever has to do something other than entertain them on their weekends (or if she or BM schedules over his weekends). So, my main beef with her is that she treats DD differently and as soon as DD is old enough to notice, I'll be done. For Halloween, DH sent a text of pumpkins we'd carved to MIL and BIL. MIL replied, "Are those the pumpkins I gave rhem?" because she thought it was BIL sending the text and apparently, gave pumpkins to his kids. She saw DD in October, but did not feel the need to give her a pumpkin apparently. She will say, "oh, we just didn't expect any more babies", but DD recently turned 2 and she exists, so no reason why she shouldn't be treated like a grandchild at this point. MIL's interactions with DD also seem to revolve around DDs interactions with SSs. She asked me if one of DD's first words was one of SS's names. Um, that SS doesn't interact with DD (it's both funny and sad to watch DD try to catch his attention when he's around) and neither SS spends more than 24 hours a month at our house, so of course, DD doesn't know them. Even yesterday, MIL acted like DD was being rude or dumb because she didn't know SS's name...she doesn't know who SS is because she has seen him for all of 20 minutes in the last month.
 

CLove's picture

It makes me super sad when I read these stories of 2nd families being treated as 2nd class or third class citizens. Almost like all the love got used up or something. I understand their logic (poor CODs we must make it up to them so they feel loved!) but seriously thats sad and makes me mad for your DD. MY parents would love to be there in their grands lives fully, but my brother and SIL do not allow it. Theyve sent toys and bought toys and high chairs and all the stuff to baby sit the grands but it was never allowed. And I have no bios...

strugglingSM's picture

Yeah, she is a jerk. DH suspects that after his divorce, MIL (and BM) thought he should just sit around and be miserable and do whatever they wanted and neither one can believe he had the nerve to move on and create a happy life for himself. Yesterday, he said to me, "my mother is like a child...just like my ex wife", after MIL complained to him about how much she spent on the Turkey...this is the same woman who spent $30,000-$40,000 on travel this year, but apparently $30 was too much for a Turkey in her eyes...and we would have been fine staying home. We also spent at least $70 on the appetizers, pie, and wine MIL told us to bring. 
 

lieutenant_dad's picture

She sounds atrocious, and I applaud your ability to keep your mouth shut. Not sure I'd be able to not say something back to her everytime she shared an opinion. If I had to guess, MIL doesn't like you and that has poured over to DD. Oh well, it's going to suck to be her in a few short years when SSs treat her the same as they do DH, and DH doesn't facilitate a relationship with DD either. These grandparents really love to cut off their nose to spite their face.

strugglingSM's picture

I've told DH that one day I'm going to lose it on MIL. The only thing that keeps me going is that we plan to move closer to my family in about 18 months. MIL will lose her mind and accuse DH of "abandoning his children", but we have 1, soon to be 2, small children ourselves and I need some help...and don't want my kids growing up feeling second tier just because MIL thinks DH shouldn't have gotten a divorce. 

Rags's picture

And... idiots.

And...... should be put in the stay the hell away from my family box.

Even if they are supposed family.

IMHO people think of membership in a family as one and done. Once someone is in, they are in.  Nope, membeship is a real time immediatley revokable condition and famiies would be well served to enforce what should be a fact.

If they are toxic, they aren't family.  Regardless of who they otherwise may be.

Nea

strugglingSM's picture

My MIL is the very definition of toxic. We see her as little as possible. She will periodically complain that she never hears from DH, but whenever he talks to her she either tries to manipulate him, make him feel bad, or wants money. 

thinkthrice's picture

"Dear [Diety]

Please help MIL realize that she has two sets of grandchildren and help her to overcome her blatant favoritism of DH's first wife's offspring.  Amen."

But seriously, unfortunately favoritism extends to intact families as well.   My paternal grandmother made it clear she preferred her younger son's wife and children (My Aunt and cousins).  

My own mother made it clear that she preferred my younger sister over me.

Playing favorites is older than the story of Cinderella.  Do what you can to protect yourself and children from MIL's onslaughts.

 

Rags's picture

For me, while there were age related differences, there has not been overt favoritism.

Though I will say that my parents tend to drop everything and adjust plans if my brother and/or is kids make a last minute showing or late notice of visiting my parents plans.  My wife, son, and I have been far more engaged with my mom and dad than my brother and his family have.  For the most part. Though my niece and her DH recently bought a home about 4miles from my parent's home.

I had to sit them down and point out that it is not cool and is very hurtful to me, my wife, and our kid when they bail on plans with us just because the far less frequent interface side of their spawn herd decides to make a showing.

Mom and dad both recognized what I said, and made corrections. Though  I still am more cognizant of  this stuff than I was before it became a thing.

strugglingSM's picture

I shouldn't have been surprised that MIL plays obvious favorites. It's clear that DH is her scapegoat, BIL is the golden child, and SIL is the one the MIL literally chases for affection (it's embarrassing to watch MIL practically do cartwheels to get SIL to pay attention to her in the few times SIL is around - usually twice a year). And I was the one who came along and told DH that he didn't have to be a stand in husband for MIL...and that I wouldn't put up with MIL treating my husband like he was her husband. Now, she is working on making SS her husband by asking him to come over and do things for her, like hang her Christmas lights and paint.

I should also not be surprised that MiL treats SSs like they are a separate family - making plans directly with BM or with them without even giving DH a heads up - but that is how MIL wields her power...and when DH has called her out on it, she just plays the victim and says he is "always yelling" at her and she "has to intervene" to show SSs "they are loved" and because he is "just at war" with BM. Barf! 

I honestly have no time to give to needy, manipulative women Iike MIL and BM...the more needy and demanding a person is, the more I shut them out. I used to try to be at least a little helpful and responsive to MIL, but she's shown time and again that no good deed goes unpunished, so I'm over it. She has also repeatedly undermined our home and family and I'm over all that. 

Winterglow's picture

Next time SS says he's going over to do some work for her, casually ask how much she's paying him... 

strugglingSM's picture

Oh yes, she always pays him...and then will sometimes complain to DH that SS did a bad job and expect DH to fix it...as if it's somehow his problem even though he wasn't involved at all. 

floralsm's picture

Your post hits home for me. I just come back from a camping trip with my DH entire family and I felt like myself and DD was the on the outs a lot. They are just cliquey and my MIL and FIL don't really warm to DD2 as they do to SD and SS. I feel they forget about her too. Not intended, just naturally as they don't make the effort to see her. They have a herd of GK's and she's just the lost little lamb among them. They take all these photos of their GKs and she's not in any unless it's an intended group one. I get so annoyed. BIL wife takes photos of her kids with SD and SS and SIL kids, but none with DD2. I think FIL realised it for himself when he grabbed two juices for my SIL two little ones (same ages) then shut the fridge. DD2 looked at me and said 'mummy I want a juice too'. I had no idea how many were in there so I kind of awkwardly said DD2 wants a juice now too and he genuinely looked appalled he forgot and then a bit embarrassed. Sigh it's just what I deal with and everyone gets offered everything first and DD2 is always the last. SD acts like a princess infront of them and when she speaks to me rudely (forgetting she has an audience) not one person in his family sticks up for me infront of her, only my DH. They just all go quiet... and I don't say anything because I don't want to be looked as the mean and evil SM. DH is the only one in his family that broke up with his ex with kids.. it just sucks. I dread his family gatherings for both my sake and DD2. 

strugglingSM's picture

I'm sorry you're going through the same thing. It's almost as if our in-laws decided that our DH's got "one family" and they'll just ignore all future children. My MIL always says, "we're just not used to having babies around", but I guarantee if DH's sister had a baby, we'd all be expected to cater to that baby all the time. It's also weird that BIL's kids have little interest in DD. BIL's daughter is 8 years older than DD and will sometimes acknowledge her, but mostly ignores her. I have cousins who are 10 and 12 years younger than me and whenever they were at my grandmother's house, we would beg to go over to spend time with them. I'm closest to my cousin who's 10 years younger...even closer than cousins my own age. At this most recent thanksgiving, SIL and her two kids sat in a room by themselves and talked to SS, but barely interacted with the rest of us, including DD. BIL likes to grab DD and kiss her and she runs away scared because she doesn't know him. No one tries to interact with her on her level or play with her.