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Kita.Marie's picture

My SD9 still wets the bed, I think it is bc she is lazy. So we buy night panties bc I don't want to have bedding that I have to wash every freaking day. It is her responsibility to let me know when she only has 2 night panties left, I don't wear them she does. It is also her responsibility to get up in the morning and put them in the trash, I don't pee in them and she can do it herself, she is nine for crying out loud! Our doctor say it would not be a good idea to put her on medication even tho I think we should. She, the doctor, keeps telling us she will out grow it. When? When she is 20? So after finding used night panties in her closet, under her bed, under her dresser, in her pantie drawer, and hidden behind her dirty clothes basket I had a long talk with her. I have explained to her that we know she has a problem and that is the reason we buy them for her. We tell her often that it is okay and we are trying to help her get out of wetting the bed. She is not able to have anything to drink after dinner to help, its not working. I have removed the cup from the bathroom that they use for brushing their teeth, I caught her getting drinks from it late at night when she should be asleep. So in my head, if she can get up in the middle of the night for a damn drink of water why can't she get up to go pee?? Well two nights ago she tells me she is out of night panties and doesn't have one to wear. Me not wanting pissy bedding to wash on my busiest work day I find a way to help. I have one of those plastic table cloths and cover her bed with it and put her sleeping bag on top. My hubby tells her that she will lose her DSI (her favorite toy) if she wets the bed. So fast forward to the next morning, a dry morning! So, something worked? We try it again last night, and tell her the same thing. Okay, so I'm doing laundry today. When I call the girls to breakfast she is not in the same night clothes she went to bed wearing. I ask "SD9 why are you in different night clothes?" SD9 answers "BC my hair was wet and it got my shirt wet and the shirt got my pants wet and the pants got my panties wet, and it was all from my hair." Me "SD9 we dried your hair last night when you got out of the bath, so please don't lie bc lying gets you in a lot more trouble then telling the truth. So lets start over and I ask you again why are you in different clothes?" SD9 "like i told you they got wet from my hair!" So me being me I go to her room and get her old night clothes from the dirty basket and smell them. YUP! Its PEE! I ask her "SD9 why did you lie even after I told you you get in more trouble for lying?" SD9 says one of two of the things she always say when caught "I don't know" (the other one is "bc I wanted too" ). So hear I am washing pissy bedding and having to punish her (not for wetting the bed, but for lying). I am just lost on how to handle this. I need to be getting ready to go to the store and I'm here blogging bc I don't know what else to do. Do I buy night panties when I go to the store or should I keep doing this? When she does get to go to her BMs she doesn't get night panties and wets every night there. When she goes to my mom's she does NOT wet and we don't send night panties bc my mom is against them (she says if you give her an out she will take it) SO PLEASE HELP!!

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SteppingUp's picture

What if you make her do everything -- like putting her bedding in the wash, transfering it to the dryer, making her bed again? She will see how much work that is? I thikn she's old enough to start doing that.

I agree that putting her in night pants will just give her a crutch to forever lean on. What if you set an alarm every 2 hours at night and make her wake up to go pee? Maybe just do it a few nights with you or her father waking up with her, and then have the alarm in her room and see if she can do it herself.

I know they sell a bed-wetting alarm that goes off at the slightest sense of wetness, but to me that sounds silly because they've already gone once it's getting wet.

I'd consider taking her to a different doctor, to get a second opinion.

CowGirl's picture

Don't buy night panties ... your Mom is right -- it is an out. SD is to old to be bed wetting. SD is either - lazy or has some emotional issues that need to be address. I can tell you that my BD didn't have any bed wetting issues, but when she had emotional issues she would have accidents ... even at 7 yrs olds (i think was the last time).

You can buy a vinyl bed cover - they are $5-$10. I would get a zippered one. They are great & protect the mattress. They last a long time and in the long run cheaper than night panties. What i would do is get the vinyl cover and if she wets the bed ... i wouldn't change her bedding -- let SD keep sleeping in it. And if it bugs SD -- then she can do her own laundry --- i bet the bed wetting stops!!! Make sure to reward SD though for any time she does not wet the bed.

hismineandours's picture

Still waiting for ss13 to grow out of it. My kids have all had challenges with bedwetting so I am empathetic to it. HOwever, I have very little empathy for ss because he makes NO effort to stay dry. In his opinion, he cant help it so why try and do anything about it? He has been on several different meds several different times, but they have never been successful. Sometimes he will stay dry for a week on a med, but never logn time-we have now pretty much exhausted all meds for bedwetting. he will not wear a pull up because he's too big for them. He will not utilize a plastic sheet on his futon because, well, I want him to so therefore he is not going to.

I did use the alarm for my other two kids and it was successful. They are 12 and 9 and havent used it for sometime. They still have "accidents" occassionally-rarely for my 12 year old-more frequently for my 9 year old. Their accidents are usually related to too much fluid, any caffiene, and if they are off their normal sleep schedule (staying up late, sleeping in). The alarms go off as soon as the first drop of urine starts-so you dont typically have a full on soaking. It also gets the child used to awakening in the night when their bladder is full. My son had a set back some months ago (he was sneaking sodas) and I told him if he didnt stop wetting no more sleepovers period, no camp this summer. He started being much more conscientous and has not had any problems except any occassional accident.

I would try the alarm-also implement a reward system-she can earn a token every time she stays dry then she cash them in at the end of the week (however be careful as this promotes the lying with some children).

I could tell pee stories all day long about my ss13. My most recent is that we went on a camping trip.-We had a cabin, but he was sleeping in a tent in the backyard. He wet himself at some point, got up, came inside, threw his pissy sheet on the living room floor, crawled into my car and put on my northface jacket (over his pissy clothes) and went back to sleep. My dd who is also 13 had a pretty 13 year old friend sleeping over-my 9 and 12 year old also had friends over. My dd's friend got up in the morning and sat on the sheet he pissed on so everyone discovered at that moment that he had wet himself. However he still denied it to my husband. My other fave is when we play "hide the pissy blankets"-he likes to do this and then deny that he wet himself. I will find them days after he leaves. My fave is when he put them in the hall closet with where we store other blankets, out of season clothes, and he dug in the middle of everything to hide it good-eventually I followed my nose and found it and ended up washing about 10 other blankets as his pissy blanket was wadded up in the middle of them all.

By the way-ss has never been punished for wetting himself, never shamed-he has got in trouble for lying and he has been talked to about putting forth some effort to stay dry but that's it. I would get a second opionion on the meds-my other kids used meds too and they were successful as long as they stayed on them-but it did help them to get out of the phase of wetting every night.

truebloodfreak's picture

i don't know what to tell u because I'm in theexact same situation!!! ss8 pees every single night then leaves piss underwear nd sheets wherever he decides. so its been a fun glad of findig where the smell is coming from. i yell at him every morningto put his stuff in wash. because i guess after 4 years of me taking him the same thigg every day he still can't get it. he also lies about not peeing and hides his underwear behind things of under the bed. i also get made cuz he lies and because he can't seem to comprehend thy he needs to clean his mess so our house doesn't smell like pee. im clueless about why to do. we limit liquids before bed, and he doesn't sleep on a mattress anymore. just. sleeping bag becuz 2 mattresses have been soaked with pee.i wish u luck. its a pain in the ass!!!!

SteppingUp's picture

I have a funny story about my SS3. We tried night-time potty training a few months ago (unsuccessful, will try again at the end of summer). We bought one of those square mattress protector pads. He watched us put it on his bed, we explained that it will help if he does pee so that hte pee won't get on the mattress.

Well we must not have explained it clearly enough. His first night he had an accident and that morning he goes, "That white thing didn't work." So he thought the "white thing" was going to actually make him NOT pee! Smile

Dogma's picture

I really don't think many kids wet the bed out of laziness or spite. It is usually as much of a problem to them as it is to you. Sometimes there are underlying medical or emotional issues and is sometimes an indicator of abuse. So, first I would rule all that out. Then I would definitely use "night panties" to minimize the impact on your life. Try not to make a big deal of it. The child needs support, not ridicule. My brother was a bedwetter into his teens. Turns out he had a milk allergy. He was a very deep sleeper and the allergy interfered with him feeling and recognizing that he needed to go to the bathroom.

Kita.Marie's picture

I have heard of the wetting alarm but like you said if it goes off its bc the child has already wet herself. We do wake her up before we go to bed, i go to bed before my hubby, so I wake her up then when he comes to bed he does too. As for an alarm, she has on we use for her to get up and get ready for school, she doesn't hear it, but I do so its not bc its not loud. Thanks for all the ideas that we haven't tried tho!! As for getting a second opinion from a different doctor, I'm going to have too if this keeps up any longer. I have replace the plastic mattress cove 3 times this year. I have also made her strip her own wet bedding and wash it. I have also let her keep wet bedding when she forgot to strip it several times. I've even let her go around smelling of pee. That one seemed like it worked, but it was just for a week. I didn't buy night panties today, I'm going to keep trying this for a while, thinking the more days she has to do without her DSI the quicker she'll stop?? Thanks again!!

christag's picture

My son had trouble wetting until he was about 9, which primarily due to his ADHD. I suggest going to the doctor again to make sure this is not a medical issue. My son's ADHD medication helped significantly, along with carefully controlling his liquids before bedtime.

Typically boys have more trouble than girls with bedwetting. For girls, bedwetting is a symptom of sexual abuse, so it is not something to take lightly.

About 15% of kids still have nightime accidents at age 8, so it is not all that uncommon.

I doubt this is something your SD is doing on purpose. My son was very self-conscience about his problems, didn't want to admit he had had accidents and was very uncomfortable talking to me about it since he felt like he had done something wrong and was embarrassed. I was very careful to reassure him it was not his fault and that I was not upset with him.

Kita.Marie's picture

Up until the lying she has never been punished for wetting, and we tell her that is okay thats why we buy the night panties. Hiding the wet night panties and lying about it is what she has gotten punished for. We don't spank her we do how ever take away her favorite toy, her DSI for lying to us or hiding them. I have also take her TV time away when she "forgets" to take the wet night pantie off. She will get completely dressed in day time clothes while still wearing a wet night pantie. Asked why she didn't change out of it she'll answer bc she wanted to hurry to watch TV. I have also tried if she can go 2 days without wetting I'll give her $2.00. And this is why I think it is laziness, she will go 2 days dry get her $2 and then wet the next night. Then after this happened I told her if she can go one week without wetting she gets to pick out a toy. Again that week goes by with no wetting! After she would get the toy that night would be another wet one. So I'm having a difficult time bc it is too ironic that when told she will be rewarded for dryness she stays dry. I set up a doctors apt for next week to see a different doctor, so I will see what she says.

busybee's picture

My SS12 wet the bed every time he stayed with us (2 nights a week) up until he was about 9. He was always told from his mum it wasnt a problem (he also regularly wet his pants.) We told him actually it is a problem and you'll get opicked on, interstingly he never did it in front of friends only adults and usually only parents/ step parents. We found that if he had been particularly mean to us during the day he would wet the bed and if he was nice he would not.
As soon as he started high school he stopped, go figure!
I do believe it is a control thing, but I also believe that they done necessarily know that they are being that controlling x

LDanuloff's picture

Proper Help For Bedwetting

I work with the Enuresis Treatment Center, which deals only with bedwetting cases. We have treated thousands of children, teenagers, and adult bedwetters, tracking all related symptoms. Our extensive research validates bedwetting as a problem caused by abnormally deep sleep, which doesn’t allow for the bedwetter’s brain and bladder to connect so they can effectively respond to each other.

In 99% of all bedwetting cases, (based upon our research of tens of thousands of documented cases) the root cause is sleeping so deeply. It is an inherited deep-sleep disorder that results in bedwetting and more importantly...a fragmented, non-restorative, sleep.

This compromised sleep can also result in daytime symptoms; difficulty awakening, fatigue, memory difficulty, irritability, difficulty concentrating. These symptoms can increase as a bedwetter reaches adulthood.

There is No guaranteed that someone will outgrow bedwetting, in fact after the age of seven, it is less likely. 1 in 50 teenagers, as well as 3.2 million reported cases of adults still wet the bed. More importantly, if someone were to outgrow this problem, they are then left with a sleep disorder, along with possible challenging symptoms that can no longer be treated.

Proper treatment is never simple. The studies of 365 children talk about the % of children dry, but that does not guarantee the bedwetting won't return at a later date. Bedwetting is a red flag of a deeper issue; a deep sleep problem in the brain. Unless the deep pattern of sleep is changed, the child or teenager will not reap all the benefits.

Many medical professionals misinform patients when they blame a small bladder as the cause of bedwetting. It is actually a RESULT of the bedwetting. Moreover, restricting fluids causes further underdevelopment of the bladder, as well as dehydration. Rewarding a child for a dry night only brings confusion and gives everyone the impression that the child has some control over the bedwetting.

Psychological counseling has not been proven to end bedwetting. Neither has hypnosis, chiropractic care or homeopathic remedies.

For 37 years, the Enuresis Treatment Center has been ending bedwetting for children, teenagers, and adults who thought there was no hope. Our research and experience has validated that bedwetting can be treated without drugs or invasive surgery.

The internet offers a great deal of information about bedwetting, unfortunately most of it is offered from sources that do not specialize in bedwetting treatment. When researching treatment programs, we suggest parents, or an adult seeking help, ask for references and check staff credentials. This will give better insight as to success and lasting results of a bedwetting treatment program. Please visit their website for more information. www.nobedwetting.com

Sincerely,
Lyle Danuloff, Ph.D.
www.nobedwetting.com