I am upset but really trying to hide it
My son and his wife and middle schooler are visiting with us for two weeks. I will admit it is chaotic at times because my youngest daughter and her husband are also here. My DH has been doing nothing but complaining in my ear. If I had a moment to myself I would have a good cry. I told him that my grandson is a kid and doing "kid" stuff. Example he filled the cup holder of the folding chair with pebbles, DH folded the chair and put it in the van and the pebbles went everywhere. For me, no big deal but a very big deal for DH. Then I asked GS to get the dive rings out of the pool. I didn't check because I was doing many other things and the rings got sucked into the pool filter. I got a phone call about that, he was freaking out screaming about how much a new motor would cost. I asked are you sure we need a new one, well he isn't sure. Then my son in law broke the lock on our front door, DH flipped about that but he knows that we have been having problems with that lock for a while now. My daughter called a locksmith and a new lock was installed within an hour. I could just go on and on. I mean what do I do, never have my children visit? The last time I saw my son and his family was 1.5 years ago as he lives on the opposite side of the country. I see my youngest daughter more as she is only a few states away.
Do you think that he is acting like this because his kids and grandkids spend very little time with him? One is in driving distance and the other gives him 2-4 hours tops when she is visiting. This seriously breaks my heart and, I heard him bad mouthing my kids to his two daughters. I really just needed to vent. I can't tell my kids because they really like/love DH. GS wants to know why he is cursing so much.
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Jealousy
He's probably jealous of your attention. My DH does a mild version of this sometimes. It's a pain and I feel like saying, "Grow up" I feel for you, it's a bummer.
It sounds
like he is just looking for something to be upset about. If it was me, I would call him out on it, especially addressing his badmouthing your kids to his. And I would make sure he understands how much this upsets you.
You should be able to enjoy your kids' visits without having to deal with mantrums.
Can’t sleep
My adult children and their spouses and my grandsonare only here for two more days. Once they leave I am going to talk to him. I am really hurt by his behavior and it made a time that should have been enjoyable and happy for me stressful and anxious and upsetting. I am thinking that I will just travel to see my children by myself in the future. My children have no idea what he has been saying. Then if it wasn't bad enough he gave them two fishing rods to use and my son and daughter both had issues so my daughter told him. He is cursing up a storm to his daughters that "they just fing broke my brand new fishing rods". First of all the fishing rods are not new and have been buried out in the shed. And I hope that he feels bad when they gift him the brand new rod and reel that they bought for him today because his didn't work. Then my grandson did something with the remote. I looked for it for over an hour, finally found it but I was so stressed out about DH having yet another thing to freak out about.
I think it was Ben Franklin
I think it was Ben Franklin who said guests, like fish, begin to smell after three days, *biggrin* You all have a full house for somewhat of a long period of time. I like having houseguests--friends and family--but after more than a few days, I start getting antsy to get back to my routine.
Still, it sounds like your DH is overreacting, and it is AWFUL that he is complaining to his kids about yours! That is a betrayal.
I hope some of the air clears when you and DH talk and that you can get to the bottom of this. Maybe you all can come to a compromise regarding future visits. Do your daughter and her husband live with you or are they visiting, too? Breaking up the visits could help. Are there reasonably priced vrbo properties around you?
Something that worked out well in my family when my mother and stepfather lived in another state was that if there were more than two of us adult kids (some with their own children) visiting, we stayed/slept elsewhere and got together during the day and for dinners just to cut down on the chaos.
Reply to MorningMia
My son and family live across the country. They used to divide thier visits between our house and his fathers. Then they started to just stay with us the entire time. I am guessing because my ex is miserable, controlling and has no respect for women.
My youngest daughter and her husband live a few states away.
It is very rare that they are all here at the same time and I was so looking forward to this visit.
My daughter and her husband were only with us for three nights.
I really don't know what I am going to say to them the next time that they want to come and stay. It' doesn't seem fair to tell them to stay elsewhere when we have the bedrooms available.
DH's children and thier families stay at BM's house or with in laws. They have never stayed with us even though DH would love for that to happen.
Is DH jealous so he was making me miserable? Why would he bad mouth my children and grandchildren to his children? Why, why why? I don't understand his actions.
Why not tell
your DH that since he is so unhappy when your family visits that he use the time to do something elsewhere, like go visit his kids?
I will bare my own
I will bare my own intolerance here.. If I had 5 extra people staying in my home.. and if I had three of them staying for 2 weeks? I would go absolutely bat crazy.. and would be totally on edge.. a LOT.
and.. I read your post.. then went back and re-read it... and picked up the nugget of information that your grandson is a middleshooler.. so preteen/young teen. and that changed my POV about "he is just doing kid stuff".
My YSD used to collect rocks and fill her pockets with them... when she was 5/6 years old. Your grandson is a bit old to do that.. then leave the mess for someone else to deal with. (if the pebbles were important treasures.. he should have put them in a bag.. if they were not.. then he should have emptied the cupholder.. at his age.. he is old enough to be more responsible).
Same with the rings.. a young kid is given more grace on forgetting.. but your teen grandson seems to have a pattern of acting without thinking.. and there have been consequences. And.. for someone who may not enjoy the descending horde in the home.. his reactions may be bigger.
Should he be screaming and throwing a fit over mistakes.. maybe not.. but if that kid is not responsible.. then a responsible adult (his parents.. you..) need to supervise him.
Then your dil and sil.. welll... he broke a lock.. and then the poles had issues.. whether that was user error.. or just age.. hard to say.. though I find that my own poles that are not brand new.. work fine for me.. but put them in my sgks or my sd's hands.. all of a sudden the reel stops functioning.. the tip snaps.. and they become trash. I appreciate them getting a new pole.. that seems like a fair gesture.. and I do hope they paid for the lock repair as well.
IMHO.. I know you may have the rooms..but it sounds like visits where they stay elsewhere.. would be in everyone's best inerest.
I know you are frustrated by what you see as your husband's overreactions.. but if there is no way to make him most comfortable with having his home hosting multiple people.. then it doesnt matter abouti how many rooms you may have. it's not a good option. You wouldn't want him to force you into a situation that you are uncomfortable with.. and if he is uncomfortable.. then you owe him that same courtesy imho.
Is the fact that his kids are more distant feeding into this? possibly.. but you do mention several.. issues that he probably had every right to be somewhat irritated with..even if his reactions may have been more than you think was reasonable.. I would be upset by having guests when it seemed like every time I turned around something was going off the rails.
If this is kind of an isolated issue with his temperament.. and your relationship is otherwise good.. why not do the thing that would relieve pressure and not have your kids' families staying in the home at least not for such long stretches... perhaps a night or two.. but one family is there 2 weeks.. and then the other piles on during that same time? that's a lot.
Reply to ESMOD
Thank you for your insight. My GS just turned 11. After spending this time with them, I feel that he is acting much younger than his age. I see that he acts out and my daughter in law caters to him. My son disciplines him but then my DL babies him. DH says I love him but he is just so annoying. DH will be playful with him but GS doesn't know when to quit.
DH grew up in a family of 10 children so he is more used to this than me. I am totally overwhelmed with his family. We went on vacation with them (65 immediate family members) and I never did it again, it was way to much for me. But DH loves it, the more the merrier. I don't think the extra people here would bother him and the majority of the time he was at work or at after work functions.
I just felt like he was coming at me for every single thing no matter how big (like the lock) or how small. GS was getting on his nerves, I get that, he got on mine too but to be pointing out every single little thing and complaining and cursing at me just didn't seem fair.
Yes DD and SIL paid for the locksmith.
Tonight DH decides he wants to be reimbursed by them for money that he spent at the meat market. Now how do I go about that when they have treated me for many meals out during their visit?
My son picked up seafood tonight and DH didn't join us for dinner, said he doesn't like it (not true). I asked my son how much we owed for dinner and his response was nothing, we appreciate everything that you have done for us during our visit.
Side note, yesterday DH had hi DD and six grandchildren here. My kids, spouses and GS were not here. He tells me he spent over $100.00 buying them take out, he gave his grandchildren money. Did he ask them to reimburse him for dinner? Absolutely not. My ring camera kept going off, his grandkids were running amuck, doors left open with the AC on, not being supervised but I did not say a thing . I may after my son and his family leaves to go home. I also came home to a partial mess which my daughter and son in law helped me with the clean up. That's not fair. Last visit his granddaughter broke a collectible that was gifted to me 25 years ago. It can't be replaced. His granddaughter threw a toy and although I had it high and in what I thought was in a safe place it was broken. His daughter was not watching her children, made a remark about I can't take them anywhere. Told DH that she would replace it and DH told her not to worry about it. I am not happy but am I freaking out at him and cursing out his granddaughter,no.
I do think this calls for a
I do think this calls for a calm conversation after the guests leave this time. I would ask him if he felt stressed having your family stay at the home... because he seemed to have a much shorter fuse than you are used to. Ask if he thinks it would be better for everyone's family to stay at an air bnb or something in the future so that there is less load on the both of you.
I would tell him that you appreciate his purchasing the meat.. but that given the fact that your son and his family did pitch in on several other meals etc.. that you are not asking them for any further reimbursement. I would tell him that if offering to loan a vehicle.. or buy food for guests is going to be more than he wants to pay.. then he should not offer.. or plan something simple.
I do think that perhaps a family staying for 2 weeks is kind of a lot.. even if he may be used to being around others for events.. 2 weeks is still a long time.
I hope this is a departure from his normal attitude and demeanor.. if not.. then you probably have more problems than just steplife.. unfortunately.
My guess is that your DH does
My guess is that your DH does not actually have an issue with your kids and GK(s), he has an issue with his own.
Not a major issue for us, however, there was a period where mybride had her panties in a wad about my family. As with any family, there are irritating things about mine. Though nothing of any significance.
It took some time for her to get it out. When there is clearly an issue that is remaining unsaid, I do not let things sit. I pull teeth until the issue is spoken. So when I had had enough, I grabbed the pliers and started pulling teeth. Figuratively of course.
The basics were that her family works so hard and never gets ahead while my family is happy and successful and things just come easy to them. It was across the board. Her parents are all about instant gratification and the "dream". No vision on the long game, they buy what they think they want at any given time. Though they do not put any thought into it. They want a piece of farm equipment, they buy it. Not something that is serviceable. They buy worn out junk because that is what they think they can afford. Then they spend some multiplier fixing it repeatedly when they could have bought a serviceable reasonably priced alternative. Then they get all butt hurt when it breaks and go after the person who sold it to them taking the victim position though all over the bill of sale the year model of the equipment is clear and the repeated reference to "sold as is" is very forward. Her younger sibs are all marginally viable adults but not truly viable. Their kids are all on the scale of train wreck at some level.
My parents are financially secure, my brother is a C-suite exec, DW, my brother, and I were all in undergrad at the same University. DW, my brother, and I all are graduated degreed professionals.
When we worked through the teeth pulling, DW realized that what appeared as good fortune and things coming easy to my family was the result of decades of study, degrees, certifications, evolving successful careers, delayed gratification, etc... All hard work, intelligent directed well thought out work rather than shotgun shooting from the hip unfocused work lacking a direction.
Though at the time DW was struggling over all of this my brother and I were in Grad school and DW was finishing her undergrad she got locked into that mind set. It took time, but she did learn to view her family from an intellectual perspective rather than entirely from an emotional one.
When I finally took the enough is enough stand and started pulling teeth, it became clear pretty quickly that the issue was not my family, it was hers and their ingrained unearned superiority complex, inherent mean streak, and ultimately their jealousy that she was thriving and growing a successful life, marriage, and career while they were splashing around in the same old multi generational cesspool of failure and envy.
Nothing is ever their fault. It is the idiot boss, or the idiot coworker, mean bank, or, or, or, or, or.
Multiple home foreclosures, multiple bankruptcies, repossessions, etc....
Once we had the waterfall moment and hashed it out and she embraced that the issue was them not my family she quickly worked through that stage.
Get the pliers out and start pulling teeth.
That may just engage his brain enough that he realizes where the issue really is. For sure I would not tolerate his crap and would keep beating him over the head with a clear statement that his kids are the problem, not yours.
As for the rocks in the cup holder of the folding chair, dive rings in the pool, and a broken door lock. Shit happens. Your DD had the lock fixed. It sounds to me that your DH has a bit of a problem never progressing past the juvenile stage of emotional intelligence.
My bride is truly exceptional. She is brilliant, successful, driven, kind, and has a pure heart. That is why she hurts deeply when people she cares about disappoint her. Not that she would recognize that they disappoint her. She wants what is best for them even if they couldn't see what is best for them when there is no other choice. They will make the choice that caters to their instant gratification genetic predisposition then whine and complain about the outcome.
My bride is either a mutant or an alien implant in her family. Which I think is part of their issue with her and her disappointment in them.
Response to Rags
DH may be jealous or envious to some extent. I know that he has shared that he is jealous of his siblings and the great relationships that they have with thier children. My kids feel bad for him because he really does try but he is last on thier lists so IMO he buys thier love. Come see me and I'll take you and your family out to dinner, slides them money every time they grace him with thier presence. Then he is just so on cloud nine when they give him a little bit of thier time. This year OSD spent a total of 3.5 hours visiting with him. She was with her BM for two weeks and that's what he got and it was on her terms. He asked to see them on Fathers Day but was told that didn't work for them.
I am hurt and angry over his recent actions.
I am extremely upset that he was complaining to his daughters about my family and he was exaggerating, cursing, etc.
Now he is hiding in the bedroom being all secretive on phone calls to his daughters.
It's difficult trying to make the best of my last day with the kids with this looming.
Now he is also complaining about the number of miles that my son put on his car while visiting. He offered the spare car with no restrictions but is now complaining. My son will return it cleaned inside and out with a full tank of gas. I should have told my son not to take him up on his offer, just another thing for him to complain about.
You have an extremely juvenile husband on your hands IMHO.
My wife walked in from the garage when she got home from work one day last week holding the door knob in her hand. It had fallen off in her hand as she came in from the garage. I did not get all pissy about it, She handed it to me, reinstalled it, and we got on with our evening. We had both noticed it was getting loose. If it had broken, we would have purchased a knob assembly, swapped out the lock cylinder and got on with life. His crap is pathetic.
From your OP and comments in this thread, this guy just looks for things to get pissy about with your kids/GK and then uses that as some kind of toxic bonding bitch fest with his noxious spawn.
Ass hole. Period. Dot.
Time to start baring ass on all of this and grinding his nose into the stench and stain on his maturity carpet while swatting him on the ass and lecturing him on his crap. Do not tolerate him undermining your experience with your family with his pouty bitching juvenile bullshit.
I would let him that that any time your kids visit, he will be gone. Not just for a day, but for their entire visit regardless of how long it is. His being a part of your life should be one day at a time and entirely dictated by you.
Call him on the lies. New fishing rods my ass! The only new rod he has is the gift your DD and family gave him. None of is revisionist drama amplification to try to bond with his non engaging failed family baggage.
I am angry for you regarding his bullshit.
Take care of you.
This is completely
ridiculous. He's just looking for stuff to be pissed off about and so of course he's going to find something.
And 11 years old is still a kid.
Apparently, a middle aged man is a kid as well.
At least the one the OP is cursed with.
No Name,
No Name,
Reading your post awakens nasty memories from my past that still have the power to infuriate me. My ex-husband’s parents visited from Scotland every year of our marriage for at least 3 weeks at a time, the last visit also including the ex’s teenaged nieces. The girls were bone lazy and spent their holiday complaining about my meals (healthy, almost no fried foods) and whining about boredom while my own teen daughters continued to help prepare meals and do the laundry, the vacuuming and other chores (as well as holding down part time jobs).
However, when my family visited (never overnight), the ex was downright rude. On one occasion, for example, soon after the prearranged arrival of my mother and grandmother, he snapped open his newspaper and began to read, rather than engage in any sort of conversation.
The ex complained about my daughters, my siblings and even my close friends until that final visit from his parents and the nieces; the straw that broke the camel’s back. I filed for divorce within a month after his family’s departure.
Hon, I can so relate to the incredible stress you’ve suffered, trying to keep everybody happy and shielding your family from your husband’s intolerance and nasty remarks. It’s just plain awful, particularly when there is such a contradiction between your forbearance and his unjust behaviour. Certainly, ESMOD brings up some salient points (as usual) in defence of your husband but some of his excessive and unreasonable remarks are both uncalled-for and unforgiveable.
There may be a number of reasons for his spitefulness but the fact remains that his conduct was spiteful and needs to be firmly addressed. One of the best outcomes of divorcing my ex was the ability to invite whomever I pleased to my new house! My parents, sibs and I enjoyed some grand times in that small but happy and peaceful home.
Response to GrannyD
I just wanted a fun happy visit with my children. My DD just made me aware that DH called her husband stupid twice today. Her husband is one of the kindest persons that I know and he didn't deserve that. My heart breaks for him and before they left for their long drive home he helped clean the kitchen, took out all of the trash and many other helpful things while DH layed in the bedroom not associating with anyone and coming up with a new complaint anytime I went into the bedroom. He asked me what time my son and his family needed to be at the airport. I told him and he responded with well I'm not driving them there. I said no one asked you to.
Rip his cry baby throat out and bare his ass. I would.
In front of whever is preset. As soon as he pulls this cry baby bullshit. "Leave my home and do not come back until you have grown up and can be a polite reasonable adult insteat of a juvenile whiney brat."
It matters not that it is his home too. If he cannot behave as an adult and be reasonable and polite, he can be gone until you let him come back. He can go sniff after his noxious spawn and beg them to let him stay until you tell him he can return.
This guy pisses me off to no end.
I am so sorry you lost the DH lottery. Big time.
Your updates--including your
Your updates--including your DH expecting to be reimbursed for food and calling your SIL stupid, not eating with you all when SIL bought fish, then "setting up" your family by offering the car and then complaining about it--put a little bit of a different twist on all of this. Like a big childish twist.