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Driving Husband insane...aka Drivers License hijinx

CLove's picture

Just for amusement's sake I thought Id post about the latest and greatest concerning Powersulk SD172monthsfrom18.

Just to get things straight right away - Im definitely not relishing this in any way...Ill repeat that at the end, if you get that far.

So, last week PS was at Toxic Trolls house, and for some reason NOW is the time she decided she can get her permit. Probably because she wants a job. Just a guess.

TT and PS go to DMV. Too late, they are closed. They make an appointment.

TT and PS go to appointment, but miss it because, something, make another appointment.

I advise husband to tell TT "ok its my turn, Ill take her", and since its on his week anyway, I mentioned he can enjoy his proud poppa moment, take her to congratulatory lunch, do some driving practice. He would have to take PTO half day to do this.

TT and PS go to a third try. TT got off work too late (hey! shes working!) Miss 3rd appointment. Husband mentions that he doesnt get his PTO for 2024 until after April 15th. Ok, should have mentioned it before, but Im disengaged, so I dont really have investment. Just trying to be supportive. Hes more worried about his $50.00 he contributed.

Fourth try at taking test! Yay, test taken! Test failed.

In his more lucid moments, his big frame actually sagged with sadness. This is a car guy. He fixes cars for a living. She could be driving a freaking BMW or Mercedes!!!!! I felt so bad, Steppers. There are no words really. All I could really say was "Im really really sorry." I did ask "whens the redo scheduled?" but will not follow up.

Oddly, Powersulk had and attitude with me...

To reiterate - Im really really sorry this happened - for all of us. I did not expect this to happen, oddly, not even with knowing her lazyness and never having to deal with repercussions for anything...I definitely am not relishing this, and "I told you so" never entered my mind. Im just hoping that husband will rally and push her to study and practice and go back again...the $ be darned. Especially with graduation around the corner and paying for that whole cap and gown package, I know its tight, but this is VITAL.
Question - should I mention anything or just pretend it didnt happen?

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Rags's picture

Medium chill. Recognize his butt hurtness, and say nothing else.

If you engage at all, whether your envolvment motivates success or failure, it will end badly for you. Don't set yourself up.

Though no doubt there are rare exceptions, anyone who can fog a mirror can pass the written drivers test if they just read the short, drooler simple, study pamphlet.  PS is just too fucking lazy for her own good.

Let her rot in the stench she is creating for herself. You stay at the flower level in life where things are beautiful and smell nice.  

Give rose

IMHO of course.

CLove's picture

To be fair - I went online to see about printing a booklett for her to study. And found practice tests. I passed each one, but there were a few toughies that I missed. But you can miss 3/10, so theres that.

So, no printing of booklette even?

notsurehowtodeal's picture

No - do not print the booklets, do not get involved! There is no way in the world, that if you get involved in this - in any way - that it will end well for you. Somehow, someway, it will go wrong. They will think you are pushy or they will think you gave her the wrong info. Please, for your sake, just let this go.

Yesterdays's picture

If you help you are enabling her. SHE needs to figure it out or she will never learn. She needs to get her act together. If she wants it bad enough she needs to find a way and put the work in. Maybe it will sink in eventually. What is missing that she needs. This is to foster her independence. It has to be done solo. Not to mention she has never been appreciative and she's been not so nice to you 

CajunMom's picture

To answer your question to Rags, NO, do not print the booklet. Offer simple regrets and leave this to your DH. I would not even suggested he take her. Disengage, CLove. This is not an issue for an abused SM to deal with. 

CLove's picture

okay, you are right, thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou many times over.

CajunMom's picture

You are a special lady....big heart. I would want someone to tell me the same thing. Big hugs!!

Stepdrama2020's picture

Do not print the booklet.

Somehow someway PS will turn it on you. You already said she has an attitude with you for some unknown reason. So please dont. I know you are a kind and caring person, the fixer. No more not your problemo.

I know this is hard for you because your nature is the opposite of PS , DH, and  family. 

Its nice that you showed DH you felt  bad cause you did. From here on go mute.

Blessings lovely lady. You really are too good for these people. Regardless I am here to support you.

CLove's picture

When I mentioned her little "attitude", It was said with a nod and a wink (netflix password changed without warning)

Thank you for blessings and backatcha!

BethAnne's picture

IS it vital?? My husband didn't get his lisence until his mid to late 30's. By all counts, other than two failed marriages and a toxic ex/BM-to-his-daughter, he was/is successful. Public transport plus the ease of Uber etc these days should mean that most locations are accessible without driving yourself. It will cost, but so does car ownership.

If she doesn't get a lisence she'll work it out. 

Rags's picture

Though with a beck-and-call daddeeeeeeeee, not getting her DL just keeps a help-meeeeeeee daddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy line more open than it needs to be.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

You re-engaged. Drop it like a hot rock. Don't "advise husband" of anything. Don't offer to do one single thing. Do not mention it again. Leave it all to husband and Powersulk. If they bring it up, keep your replies neutral. "Okay." "Mmhmm." "I see." Then change the subject. 

When (if) she passes and gets her DL, "That's nice" is a good enough response. Refrain from getting excited and, above all, DO NOT offer to take her anywhere to celebrate or give a millisecond of your time planning a nice meal or a blank card to offer congratulations. Stick with "That's nice" or "how nice for you".

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Don't drag it out or sound super positive. Say it like husband just told you the weather is pleasant or he caught an average-sized fish... *biggrin*

ESMOD's picture

Agreed... just ignore any and everythning to do with your almost 18 yo SD.  stop giving your SO advice about anything to do with her.  

Sure.. he should probably do something.. but he won't.. because he never learned how to.. because you have done everything for him for so long... he has learned incompetence.

Rags's picture

Smh to celebrating these non accomplishment events.  Intermediate grade "graduations" getting a DL years after most with moderate intelligence get a DL, etc..

HS graduation, Basic Training Graduation, College graduation, Grad school graduation, weddings, professional certifications.... fine.  

Just not things that are common and have zero special shit for anything about them.

We did not celebrate driver's licenses in our world.  At any level.

JRI's picture

Tell yourself "no" when you are tempted to do anything or say anything.  On the plus side, she now wants to get her license whereas in the past, she showed no interest.  Take it from me as SM to 5 who were teenagers at the same time: when they want to do something, they will.

NoWireCoatHangarsEVER's picture

Mind you I 'm in Florida but the test is taken online or at DHSMV before hand and you take your certificate to there with your documentation and give you the restricted license which we call a permit.  But it was a simple road sign test.

PetSpoiler's picture

I concur with the rest here.  Not your problem.  If you try to help in any way you will get nothing but abuse heaped on you.  Let PS and her parents figure it out.  My daughter was able to download a drivers license manual and passed the test her first try.  If PS wants it bad enough she'll figure it out.  Even if she doesn't, not your problem.  

Lillywy00's picture

No worries. I'll say it! 
 

"Told ya so, Powersulk....Take that!"

Just kidding lol

Good thing your husband didn't waste his PTO, gas, and time ... once she's serious and more prepared to pass the test then it would be better to help imo

Yesterdays's picture

I'm sure she can feel the consequences. I really hope she overcomes this one on her own. Doing so after obstacles can be empowering if she can push through. 

Rags's picture

A DL story from Qatar.  I had to get a Qatar DL when we first moved there. I had an old Saudi DL that was about 40 years old that they did not allow me to use to qualify for my Qatar DL.

I failed the driver's test.  The driving school gave the test. I just took the test without taking a class. Guarnty to fail in that model. Pay for the class, pass the test.  So, I paid for the driving classes and went to two of 12 classes though I paid for all of them.  DW's friend in our highrise was married to a Qatari who was from the royal family of Bahrain.  He made a call, I was to drop his name at the school when I went in for the test.  

The verbal test was.... identification of road signs and road striping.  I was first in line on my second test day.

Several minutes after they were supposed to open, the small roll up gate at the counter opened. A uniformed LEO was sitting there in front of a large poster with countless dozens of road signs and road stripe examples. My test started.

Pointing at a sign or stripe example.

LEO: " Do you know what this is?"

Rags: "Yes"

Pointing at a sign or stripe example.

LEO: " Do you know what this is?"

Rags: "Yes"

Pointing at a sign or stripe example.

LEO: " Do you know what this is?"

Rags: "Yes"

Pointing at a sign or stripe example.

LEO: " Do you know what this is?"

Rags: "Yes"

After a dozen rounds of the same question while pointing at a different sign or stripe picture, and me giving the same one word answer .... "Good. Now go take your driving test.

I never once named a sign or road stripe example. I only answered Yes!

Then I went and did exactly what my instructor had taught me to do. Drive to this pole, turn the wheel 1.5X to the right, move forward. Stop at this pole.  Turn the wheel 1.5X to the L, move forward, etc, etc, etc.....  That was the driving test.  "Good, now go take the road test."

Then came the road test. This one was brand new, I stopped going to driving school too early apparently.

Shok

I was the first  to take the road test that day.  I was waiting in the car when a different LEO climbed in the passenger seat.  He said "Go!". I said "Yalla ruggh." Which means "Come on, go".  He gave he a look, laughed, and said "That is tribal pronunciation. Yulluh ru.  Less ghhh on the end."

As instructed, I pulled through the gate, turned Rt on the street, drove 100ft, turned Rt on the next street drove 50ft and he said "Stop there!" pointing me to the side of the road. I stopped and asked "Now what?" He told me "Get out of the car."  I asked if I walked back to the school. He said, "No,get in the bus that has been following you and tell the next person to come."  The road test was at most a few hundred ft of driving on washed out nearly unpaved dirt road with pot holes big enough to swallow the bus that was following me.

And that, is how I passed my Qatar DL test 40 years after I got my first Saudi license.

 

Merry's picture

That's a hoot. I had a short consulting gig in Qatar and it surprises me to learn there are driving schools and driving tests. I had a driver, and I either closed my eyes to "nap" or looked down at my laptop to "work."  

Rags's picture

Of all of the countries I/we have lived and/or worked in Qatar was our favorite.  It was much like my youth in KSA. Culturally roughly mid way between very conservative KSA of the 90s and Dubai which is about equivelent to Arab Disney Land.

Saudi at some level will always be my home. While my country will always be the USA.

Morocco is by far the most beautiful and where we made the sincerest friendships with the locals.  Though it is the worst place I have every worked and a much harder place for a trailing spouse to live than either Qatar or KSA.

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Last January, I had to redo the driving test due to vision problems. Forty years after the first time, and I approached it as a fun adventure. I also did it in a Dodge 3500 quad cab (last time was in a Ford Pinto!). The woman who administered the test was very nice, and we even shared a laugh when another driver blew threw a stop sign right in front of me. But being me, I overprepared by studying for the written exam - just in case.

Rags's picture

I have my first DL renewal in decades on my next B-day (2025).  Only a visition test and a new picture... hopefully. If I can pass the damned vision test.  My eyes are shot.  Fine for driving, hiking, etc, but I can barely read a book these days without walleye vision readers.

I might borrow my dad';s 3500 4X4 dually if I need to drive.  That is a great idea.

As for a Pinto, I had one once. A bright orange 1980 model.  Actually not a bad car. Far better than the 1978 Mustang II POS I had. That thing was a menace.  Basically just like my Pinto only poorer quality, no power at all.  The Pinto was a pleasure compared to the Mustang II.

When I had the Pinto I had two other vehicles and my XW had a beater of her own so the Pinto was the friend loaner more than anything.  They nicknamed it the Pint-ach as in Lamborghini Countach.   We were all broke college students and when their cars had to go in the shop, they would borrow the Pinto.  This was in the late 80s.

Dirol

agitated's picture

Do nothing! My SD now 21 did not want to get her permit/license (still doesn't drive either). When I tried to push/motivate/print out the booklet, it ended very badly for me. And from what you write about here, I imagine it would end badly for you also. Say and do nothing. 

Harry's picture

I remember it wa a book. Study that book more then school work.   She 17 ,has friends. She up to speed with driver's licenses more then you.  Has to be a topic of conversation at school.   Stay disengage 

Cover1W's picture

My YSD18 put off all things driving for a year, finally BM was the one to push her to do it, one thing I agreed with her on. DH did NOT care if she drove or not and in fact, supported her NOT driving, which yes, I argued with him about but finally just stopped becuase I had no say. He knew better than to ever ask me if they could use my car (hell no!), but he dropped a hint every so often, which I completely ignored. She still, to this day, avoids driving. I think the last time she took the car on her own was in the fall. To go to the library.

Keep your mouth shut, don't mention anything, do not get involved. If you do, you really haven't been paying attention.

Rags's picture

Refusing to schlep the non drivers around ends them being non-drivers. No. Just, no. And they will eventually get a license.  BIL2's DW just got her license within the past year.  She is in her mid to late 30s.  The whole family finally just stoped responding to her calls and texts.  Poof. License.

I was 18 when I got my DL. I was in boarding school on the other side of the world from my parents so getting a DL was a non thing for me. I had been driving or riding motor cycles for more than 10 years, all over the desert, before I got my DL.  I did not have a car until I graduated from HS.  We briefly moved back to the States when my brother was 15. He got his license and first car at 16 which upset my "I didn't get mine until I was 18" angry early 20s self.  Mom and dad asked "Do you want to haul him and his friends around all of the time?"  My attitude shifted in a hurry and I was suddenly all on board with my baby bro having his DL and a car.

Circumstance matters.