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i am sooo annoyed right now, I can scream

foxxystep's picture

So FSS7 has little black teeth that have been rotten since i met him when he was 5 due to obvious neglect. So with the result it cannot fall out like normal children's teeth. Anyway, so his mother FINALLY decided to take him to a dentist, and no surprises as to what the doctor said: it needs to be cut out. FSS7 is on my SO's medical insurance, and so he goes and sorts out all the paperwork, and turns out there's an additional amount that must be paid seperately. Which he covers by himself.

So today FSS7 is booked in for the procedure, and the pick up that he's got a bit of an infection, so they're not going to cut his rotten little teeth out today, but admitted him to hospital to treat the infection so they can do the procedure asap.

now get this. The mother visited during the day, and my SO is sleeping over at the hospital. i've been in hospital with my 1-year old daughter, and have never seen a non-custodial father sleep in hospital with his 7 year old child. Especially not for a MINOR procedure - which they have not yet done. That child looked fine when they took him in, the infection was asymptomatic until the doctor picked it up and said he can't cut. Am i being unreasonable, or is this behaviour going to feed this child's hypochondriac behaviour?

VioletsareBlue's picture

You are annoyed that your SO is spending the night with his son in the hospital? The boy is 7 - he should not be left alone in a hospital, ever .. especially over night. Yes I think you over reacting. JMHO.

is it over yet's picture

Amen sister, the guilty parent ploy is detrimental to the kids and your marriage. But I think he's just trying to protect his kid, and a parent does have to stay w/ a minor at all times in the hospital. Kudos to your SO for manning up. Now to make BM mommy-up. That sounds like a DCS issue. Neglect like this needs serious attention. SO needs support. and God help you.

tequina's picture

Maybe I am overly protective but I would never leave my children in the hospital by themselves. It is a big scary place with a lot of strangers even for a teen. I don't leave my grandparents in the hospital alone either. There is just too much that can happen in a hospital...I used to work in one.

foxxystep's picture

i am annoyed because his mother has more important things to do and he just bends to her demands. This time round its way too inconvenient for her to be sleeping there with the child. I should have added that i am 7 1/2 month pregnant and on strict bed rest from my obstetrician because I have an incompetent cervix.

tequina's picture

I think your husband is being a responsible parent to his bio.

All ex's are irritating...i think.

DaizyDuke's picture

You're asking, so my answer is... you are being a bit ridiculous here. How is having rotten, infected teeth, hypochondriac behavior? And how is God's name could you possibly know when you were in the hospital with your 1 year old whether any man you saw with their child was a NCP or not?

Now let me ask you this...if your daughter was 7 and had to be in the hospital over night, would you want her there alone? I guess I just don't see what the big deal is here.. but maybe I have missed some other posts or something that give more background.

At any rate, hope the poor little guy does ok!

thegoodwife's picture

I agree Daisy Duke. A 7 yr old with rotten, infected teeth is not being a hypochondriac. 7 is not very old and a hospital is scary. His dad is probably "not bending" to whatever his EX says, he is not staying at the hospital for HER, he is doing it for his little boy.

My DH son had a major asthma attack when he was about 7 or 8, nearly died. He was non-custodial but stayed at the hospital with him. I can't stand the kid now, who is 19 but totally understood my DH reasons for being there and staying overnight. I'd do it for my son or daughter too. I'd do it now and they are adults.

foxxystep's picture

I understand that I am coming across as rather harsh to the situation, and I should further clarify the history. FSS7 has over the past 2 years faked being ill so many times, where even my FMIL said to my SO that he needs to stop payign so much attention to his antics.

I understand and respect that he's in hospital for a legitimate problem, but i shold add that i am in South Africa. Our private hospitals are EXTREMELY safe. In the paediatric ward, no-one besides parents are allowed in there anyway.

The mother over december, when it was her turn to look after him, dumped him at her own mothers house, and she in turn called us to fetch him and once again, OUR holiday spoiled... He had a cold in winter... and my SO treated this kid like he has double pneumonia. The exaggeration of this child's medical incidences is what annoys me, the fact that he let BM have her way once again annoys me.... the fact that I have to lie in bed where he should be at least assisting at home. He could have insisted with BM to sleep over - because of HIS situation at home with me being in bed.

Asher10's picture

You're overreacting.I would be angry with my DH if I found out that he wasn't at the hospital and sd was there alone.I think it's just plain wrong to leave a child alone in a hospital no matter why they're there.In my opinion your view on this is VERY cold.The child's teeth are rotted because no one is supervising his dental care.That is NOT his fault.If he were older I would say yes this is his fault because he should know better.But this is a neglect issue to me.You need to have a heart and let your husband be a father by being at that hospital with his kid without having to hear you b*tch about it.

foxxystep's picture

Asher, I have not given him a hard time about it. I never give him a hard time about his child. ever. Because that child is a god in his eyes.

tequina's picture

This child is crying for attention. He has a terrible BM and a selfish SM. Thank goodness you husband is there for him.

Poor little man

foxxystep's picture

krisnkids, unfortunately for me, its not for the night... most likely till sunday/Monday... So i will have to ask my mom to come stay with me till then. while FSS7's BM gets to go partying or whatever it is she does, and SO steps in to mother his son.

tequina, i acknowlege that that is your opinion of me, and that's okay.

Like i said, i suppose I should have had a LONg into to this and given a very detailed background of the situation...

DaizyDuke's picture

I don't understand why anyone would need to spend 5 days in the hospital to have two teeth pulled and an infection???? I know you're in SA, but come on, that is procedure that would normally be done in the dentist office or at worse, day surgery and maybe stay over night for monitoring.

Jsmom's picture

You are over reacting. I don't if know if I would be okay with leaving my 16 year old alone in the hospital. Anything can happen. He is a scared 7 year old. You are way over reacting....this is his job as a DAD....

foxxystep's picture

crayon, I agree 100% with what you said, that actually is the story of my life, the guilty parent. Even when we're at home laughing and having fun, its like my SO's brain freezes, and he withdraws. You can actually SEE he's feeling guilty that his son is not with him to enjoy the nice time he's having. Then we get to sit with a man who's so miserable, the atmosphere becomes tense. I must add, i met him 2 years ago, he was single. I did not cause him to be guilty for leaving his child.

Willow2010's picture

I think you are over reacting a lot!! My daughter is 22 and I feel like I would want to stay with her overnight even now. lol

My son is 17 and you can bet your sweet bippy that I would stay with him too. Wellll...he may run me out, but I would try. lol

foxxystep's picture

krisnkids - see that's why I said I should have given a more comprehensive history before blasting my mouth off - he's taken leave from work to be there day AND night. He's been there since 6am when he had to go in, till now. He'll come home in the morning for a quick shower, go back for the whole day... this pattern will be repeated till Sunday/Monday.

He is a good dad, but he's also a guilty father who has displayed so many signs of adding to this child's ultimate damage.

lifeisshort's picture

He's not a "guilty daddy." God, I'm sooooo tired of seeing those words strung together. Everyone has guilt about something or another. Being a concerned parent, being a caring parent, being an involved parent is NOT being a "guilty parent."

He's being a DAD. A PARENT. That's what you do. When your child is in the hospital and, if the other parent can't be there to stay with your child, you take off from work and you stay there.

It's difficult being on bed-rest, I know. I was for about four months with my last pregnancy. But if I was in a similar situation with my child in the hospital and XH couldn't be there, you'd better bet I'd send my DH over there to stay with our child. I don't care if it was a lock-down facility where they have retinal scans for security. One of us would be there.

The kid is seven. Cut him and your DH a break. His dad being there with him in hospital isn't going to "feed into" some psychosomatic tendency for the child. You're just trying to justify what you want with what is the right thing to do, in this instance.

Is there anyone around you that can come stay with you, should you need the help? Try to set that up for yourself. Anything could happen and you should have a back-up plan in place for any situation.

foxxystep's picture

and all the while, I have been sitting with a pregnancy that's left me hospitalised twice this year already... so you know what, maybe i am being unreasonable expectign him to be a father to his unborn child too - and understand that his son HAS a mother too, and have some sort of expectation of her pulling her weight. Maybe i am being cold for expecting my partner to support me. If I am unreasonable in my request for support knowing how we've both cried night cos my unborn child was almost lots thrice, then you know what? I'll gladly take the label of a cold stepmom.

DaizyDuke's picture

so now you're asking that your husband choose what child is more "important" to him??? I'm going to bow out of this now before it gets ugly....

foxxystep's picture

DaizyDuke, I am speculating when I say Sun/Monday, but bearing in mind that the infection needs to fully clear up before they remove the teeth (approx 3 days I from experience, depending on the antibiotic administered), and the doctor is not going to discharge him until the infection's cleared up and does the procedure (that's what I was told by SO). So it is fair to assume that it will be at least a 4 day stay. And I know SO's taken leave from work for the rest of the week, because he told me he did. I also know that he's going to stay there day AND night, because he called to tell me that.

foxxystep's picture

I think it is best I also bow out, becaue way too many incorrect assumptions have been made here. So much so that I am feeling the need to defend everything I say. I never ever inferred that he must make a choice in whose more "important". That's ridiculous. i respect that he loves his son, I encourage him to see his son sometimes when my FMIL calls me and tells me that it looks like the child's mother is being a cow.

I have had to be the big adult in this when FSS7 physically bullied my child when we were not looking. I've had to taken the moral highground so many times to my emotional detriment because I love this man, and respect that this child that has ZERO respect for me in his fathers life, Zero respect for me in our home, is openly nasty towards me. So i do apologise for coming across as being unsympathetic.

i challenge any one of you to be okay with your husbands telling you that they've taken absence from leave for the rest of the week to be at his son's hospital bed ALL the time(who is there for a minor procedure). If the child was in a coma, or really ill - I would have packed him dinner and driven my best-rested self to the hospital to be there for him myself.

VioletsareBlue's picture

I would not bitch if my husband had to stay at the hospital because his child was in the hospital for ANY REASON. He's a parent .. that's how it is. My son was in the hospital for emergency surgery and I stayed the 3 days he was there - that is just how it and how it should be.

starfish's picture

i think bm is a loser douche bad and should be doing her part, it's half her baggage, too.

but since she's not, it all falls on bd. i see your point and would also be aggravated, i don't see the need for a hospital stay due to a tooth infection that can only be treated by antibiotics. it's not like skid got hit by a bus, why not send skid home with antibiotics and schedule tooth pulling 10 days out??? but i'm not a doctor.

any way, this is a losing battle for you. let it go and enjoy them being gone!

DaizyDuke's picture

I guess I'm not even on the "safety" part of it... I am 40 years old and to this day do NOT like spending the night in the hospital alone! It's NOT a fun place to be... I can't imagine being SEVEN!

wicked's picture

It seems like maybe you are overreacting a little, but on the other hand, it seems odd that SO cannot come home even during the day to see if you need anything. I'm wondering where SO has been for the past 2 years of his son's black teeth. Now suddenly he is a concerned parent?

foxxystep's picture

krisnkids - my daughter's at home, I've had to ask the nanny to sleep over till he's back.

And in the long run, in fact short run, this is not sustainable, and I will be the one who loses, but not because i am doing the god-awful thing of asking him to choose between our unborn child and his son, it'll be bacuase he's always made a god of his son.

The once his son called him to say his BM scolded/shouted at him for some or other reason. my dad-of-the-year SO got in his car, drove there and made a huge performance because she scolded at the child. I later asked him whether he asked the child "what for?", and if the reason he got was not good enough, why not then call the BM and ask her what's going on?... i don't even think she's being neglectful because she's a terrible person, she's tired of havign a man want to be man in her house, who's not even there. So she's disengaged from her OWN biological child. She's not there with FSS7, because she knows she doesn't have to.

What I can say is that I am glad that i have the option of walking away from this craziness. For my kid(s) and for myself. He'll love the unborn child soon, play with him, and then freeze, and withdraw because he's feeling guilty about something again.

DaizyDuke's picture

but not because i am doing the god-awful thing of asking him to choose between our unborn child and his son, it'll be bacuase he's always made a god of his son.

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So as long as he is making a queen of you and a God of your unborn child and is leaving your SS in the hospital for days on end to be by himself because his BM is a total loser, then everything would be ok??

I'm sure you'll be fine with your nanny and mom to take care of you... please, let your DH take care of his son since it sounds like he is the only one that does.

..... and I'm stopping now, because this whole thing just doesn't sit well with me for some reason.

foxxystep's picture

7 year old - throwing 3.5 yr to the ground and stomping on her - if that's called being siblings, then i sure as hell was cut a very raw deal. When 7 year old has been purposely mean to my BD because she's got a stable mother who bothers to spend time with her, play with her, then forgive me for my misinterpretation of the situation. When he breaks her toys, and hits her, and shoves her around is being a sibling, then i must have been living in a cocoon.

Thanks Katrienkie. I think that whole episode in December when I had to jump into the pool because FSS7 pushed my BD3 into the water and all the other stressors added to me having a complicated pregnancy. At least i am in good hands with a good Ob/gyn and it's only a month and a little bit left.

You know what the private hospitals are like in Sandton, i think you'd appreciate my sentiment in not understanding what the big deal is in my expectation that he is at home. Also, like I said, if the child were really ill, i would understand the situation a little better. He could have been given meds to take home and rescheduled. in fact if I were SO, i would have suggested that as first option. let the TOOTH infection clear up at home. They're cutting 6 of his front teeth out, i can understand POST-operative concern at this level.... this is bloody ridiculous!

lifeisshort's picture

Why does it matter the reason for the child being in the hospital or if there was another course of action or where the hospital is located? Personally, I see you throwing out every excuse possible to defend yourself when there is NO defense for your behavior and attitude. The kid is still in there alone. I think you've blown this waaaaay out of proportion and you're letting it sit and fester inside you because you want what you want.

I went into the hospital last year for an outpatient procedure (going under GA) and I didn't have anyone with me, because DH had to stay home with our little one and i have no family here. It is scary and lonely, being in a hospital alone, even now, in my forties. Things can happen in a hospital setting - people die unexpectedly, from anesthesia-related problems or staff and procedure errors. I began to write good-bye letters to my children and DH, just in case!

You have a nanny and your mom to help you? Please. Talk to me when you have no one around to help. I have to rely on the kindness of neighbors and a MOM's group.

This is a jealousy issue for you, plain and simple. You need to get your head in the right place and let go. Life is so short (my moniker), why focus on such pettiness?

foxxystep's picture

wicked, when i pointed out that the child's teeth were going to cause complications for him shortly after I met him (about 2 years ago already), I was told exactly where my place was in his son't life. His son has a mother and a father. so, I nicely butted out.

Like I said, this story has a long history, whick I don't expect most people to uderstand. And that's okay. I just felt overwhelmed at the time, and needed to vent, when I was told that he's not going to be around during the day or at night, and that he's taken leave from work to be there day and night.

And like I said, maybe I am being unreasonable for him to expect his son's BM to be there because while she's sitting and watching soapies/out on dates.... i have to sit without NEEDED assistance. i am not expectign him to treat me like a queen, but as the mother of his unborn child who is actually having complications. But if that makes me unreasonalbe in the eyes of you ladies, then that's fine. i can live with that.

Asher10's picture

Is there anyway you can do a blog to give everyone more of a background?It's confusing that you're adding all these much needed details after everyone told you that you're wrong.Suddenly all these examples of why you're not wrong are being posted and it makes it hard to give solid and decent support to you.I totally get posting in the heat of the moment and then adding the details as you go but I think it would really help us understand better if you could post something to fill in the gaps once you're not so upset.

VioletsareBlue's picture

I don't see the guilty dad in this particular instance. If selfish BM won't be there for whatever reasons and take responsibility then Dad has to do it. He really has no choice in the matter.

I can understand your frustration with BM being a selfish person and not really giving a damn but that's a separate issue than your FH being a responsible parent.

foxxystep's picture

I think that I need to take a few steps back, breathe and start again.

My SO confuses me with regard to the inconsistent treatment of SS7. I have long decided to step aside from commenting on his son and what goes on there but it does become difficult when u can clearly see the child is neglected. I suggested in January at the beginning of the new school term, despite all the hurt this boy has put us through, to be the adult in the situation, and spoke to SO to let him stay with us. The reason why is that his mother cares more about looking like Victoria Beckham than parenting her child. He goes to a bad school, he's left to do as he pleases, has very bad social skills. I recognise the child needs stability and an environment in which he can flourish. I said to SO that it won't be easy for all of us involved, but for the best interest of HIS son, it may be a good idea to explore. I even thought of ways in which to keep my daughter safe in this adjustment period.

My SO said no. He said ''the child must live with his mother, and its gonna be an adjustment that'll cause a lot of ''unnecessary'' strain on our relationship''. I've stopped pointing out areas of obvious concern, including the teeth in question above. after 2 years I'm getting the impression that SO and BM are using this child to get to each other. In all fairness, I don't know what the real SOURCE of my frustration is, and all the anger built up from all over. I am gonna be big enough to say I am being dramatic for being upset over him being there. Its bigger than that, and the problems are deeper than that.

I do not crave his attention. I do mostly take care of myself in my temporary condition. I have even given thought to leaving for a long time now. I know this man, I love him dearly, but I do wonder if this is sustainable. As I said in an earlier update, he tries to enforce his role of man of the house in two households. Its so crazy that this child does not even know what religion to follow since mom and dad have totally different faiths.

What frustrates me is the inconsistency of parenting from BOTH my SO and the BM, and I always finding myself getting the short end of the stick. I know this situation was probably not the best to lose it, but I suppose we all have a breaking point.

foxxystep's picture

asher, I invite u to read my very first blog in November last year (i only have 2), it'll confirm what I said here, and hopefully give some insight to a long, frustrating situation. Be warned, its a long letter. But I think we should all take a lesson in this that we should ''never judge a man, without walking a mile in his shoes''.

CaptainD's picture

Unless you're having a miscarriage, and he doesn't show up to be by your side, I would let it slide.

Get your momma to help you. Your hubs is just trying to be there for his child. Sounds like he has been there for YOU so far during your difficult pregnancy. Let him take a couple days off from husband duty and be on daddy duty (unless you have an emergency)