Free-loading adult skids rant...
Sooo tired of the manipulation and the attitudes - does it get any better? NO, not unless they actually launch their lazy a$$es out into the real world and start taking accountability for themselves. But why should you go ahead and launch into the real world when your Disney daddy smooths everything over - until the next issue blows?
Not to give too much specific info - SS25 has been in a state 16 hours away and will live there for 5 years to satisfy a requirement to have his student loans forgiven. This is great news for someone who funded 5.5 years of college tuition, living expenses, a car lease, and partying habits all on student loans. Anyway instead of getting a summer job while in state 16 hours away, SS25 decided to move home for a while - don't know for how long, just that he calls it "visiting" and he's already been here a month.
The other 2 adult skids are paying rent and helping with utilities - SD20 is in college and working a part-time job. SS23 has also graduated college with no student loans (thankfully!) and also working a full time summer job. By them paying rent and utilities we are hoping this is incentive for them to get ready to launch themselves into adulthood and out of our house. SS23 has an exit plan - but realistically it has been pushed back by Disney dad so I know he will probably still be living with us for at least another year - another post all in itself.
Dh and I talked about how it was not fair for the other 2 skids to be paying rent and utilities but for the SS25 not to pay anything. At the time, we agreed that he would pay the same as the other 2 since technically he is living here and Dh told him that if he was moving home (which all of his crap is here too) then he would pay. Since I do the budgeting and managing the money, I was also the one who was taking the money out of the skids accounts when rent and bills were due (Dh is still somehow able to access their accounts). Today while paying the bills I noticed that SS25's account was gone from the home page, we could no longer see it. I asked Dh what happened and he said that SS25 closed the account because he wants to put the money in the bank in state 16 hours away and he doesn't feel he should have to pay as much as he has been for staying here.
Dh and I had a talk, SS25 has been telling Dh that he is just "visiting for a while" and he shouldn't have to pay rent because he doesn't actually live here. So why is all his crap still here? And SS25 has been buying his own food (he bough himself waffles, big whoop). So why is he always standing in front of the fridge with the door open and eating our food? He has been telling his dad that he will probably leave next week - it has already been almost 4 weeks! But if he keeps telling his dad that he is only visiting and will probably leave next week then why should we theoretically make him may for anything?
It makes me angry that SS25 keeps telling his dad this crap and then Dh does nothing about it. I talked to Dh and told him that I understand that this is his son and if we were in a better financial position that it wouldn't be such a big deal to have him "visit" for a while. But when we are living paycheck to paycheck and budgeting everything down to the penny - why do we have to take on the expenses of another adult? He's 25 years old! It's not like he's 16 and we are obligated to provide for him. He 25 and spending his money on alcohol, going out to eat with friends, online sports games, and amazon purchases. WTH? Where does he get off in thinking he's still a dependent, free-loading off of daddy?!
Dh has been very quiet since we talked and SS25 hasn't come out of his room all day. Somehow I am solely responsible for all of this - even though Dh didn't necessarily say that but the quietness and SS not coming out of his room peaks volumes! Although I quite prefer for skids to stay in their rooms. I finally told Dh that I am tired of doing all the budgeting and taking the money out of the skids accounts. Next month he can do it all and see how easy it is to manage the money and bills for everyone. He immediately said he doesn't know how to do it. I will teach you! You need to know the headache that I go through in trying to pay everything when the money doesn't go very far - especially when you have extra mouths to feed.
Thank you for letting me rant... or vent... get it off my chest. It helps even though I know nothing is going to change.
You guys clearly missed her
You guys clearly missed her golden classics of years past. They include stealing pregnancy tests from her step daughter, lol.
I remembered after I clicked
I remembered after I clicked her profile and read the blog on SD becoming a lawyer. Didn't her SD marry her DH's brother and both men are old and the ladies the same age? She sent the younger male off to boarding school IIRC.
I'm starting to think she is
I'm starting to think she is one of the original Sybil posters. Her early blogs/comments were bat shit crazy. Lately, they have been pretty normal.
Based on this reply, I say we are about to see the crazy resurface
This is a hard one. Did the
This is a hard one. Did the other SS voluntarily allow you to access their accounts? SS25 could set up an account and deposit enough money for you to pay his part of the bills, or he could simply hand you the money. But he should not be allowed to 'visit' for a month without contributing something. The least he could do is help with the groceries.
He says he is leaving in a week. Mention it often to him so he knows this is your expectation too.
If he is just "visiting", he
If he is just "visiting", he has somewhere else to go, no? He needs to go there, visit is over.
Betsy DeVos will be taking
Betsy DeVos will be taking care of those college debt forgiveness programs.
You have as much right to the
You have as much right to the rent money as your Ss25 has to raid your food.
If you're not getting paid, you shouldn't incur the expense.
i know this well. my brother
i know this well. my brother has a son who is thirty who still lives at home. they are attached at the hip. son does not work or go to college and spends all his time playing video games at all hours of the morning. he sleeps in until the afternoon.
the young man has fantasies of being a rock musician and wears his hair died purple. he has a music studio in the garage with expensive keyboard, guitars and drums. my brother pays for the sons trips all over the country to music jams. of course this is air fare, hotel and spending money and food money.
its insane to stand by and watch this. its embarasing to watch them in restaurant sitting next to each other and sharing their food. my brother never married the bm because she was a drug addict and my brother raised the son all by himself. bm disappeared not long after the son was born. my brother has not dated any woman since his son was born. all the same as my brother and his son are best friends. it is unhealthy.
i have learned not to say anything about this failure to launch adult child as my brother gets nasty defensive.
Your brother needs to realize
Your brother needs to realize that he won't be here forever. The kid will have to start in life sometime. I too have an extremely lazy almost 21 yr old son who's been enabled by his father for several years. It's been a lot of work to get him motivated to do anything that doesn't include eating or gaming. I've told him that the reality of life is that his father and I won't be able to support him forever and that I WON'T support him much longer. He needs to start adulting stat! Good news is that he starts his first ever job on Monday. Menial labor just above minimum wage but it's a starting place. Next he'll start paying the electric bill and buying his own food. There is hope for your nephew but daddy or somebody has to nudge him out of the nest.
still learning, i agree and i
still learning, i agree and i worry about the time if something happens to my brother. the nephew is utterly incapable of doing any thing by him self. the son was sent to a medical specialist for problems due to drug abuse. the doctor put him on some medicine. i asked the young man what he was taking and the dose and he said "i dunno. my dad has that information." he is thirty and cant even keep track of his own medicines and health. he is like a child of 13 in a 20 year old body.
as with my skids i have disengaged. i get verbally attacked when i express concern over the situation. they are too close to see that there is any problem. for the record nephew has no friends or girl friend.
Yeah, not so much controlling
Yeah, not so much controlling that the skids accounts show up on homepage - this has been this way since the kids opened accounts. They were all minors and Dh was a "custodian/guardian" on the accounts so it has been this way since the beginning. When the skids were coming of age, it was discussed with them as to whether they draw the money out to give to DH, write checks directly to DH, or allow DH to electronically transfer the money between accounts - they all chose to have DH electronically transfer funds because they didn't want to write checks or physically go to bank to make a withdrawal. I see the accounts linking as more enabling for the skids - why take responsibility for paying your way when someone can just neatly transfer the money and you don't have to be involved? Enabling them - or them being plain lazy - both fit this situation.
Each time DH speaks with him about his "responsibilities" to help with the household we hear the same story "I'm probably leaving next week anyway" - yeah, right.
Sounds like DH needs to get
Sounds like DH needs to get another job to support his freeloading son.
Seriously, it'd be less
Seriously, it'd be less expensive and a whole lot less crowded!
I have 2 step children both
I have 2 step children both with children and SD has a baby and all live with us. Ages SS22 SD23 neither one do anything. Not work not help around the house nothing while my husband and I work all day with stressful jobs and only to come home to get more stress because he has enabled them so bad they act like they are 10. We support and pay for everything. Yet they seem to have money for their good times. Not fair and don't know how much more I can take.
Time to divide finances, pay
Time to divide finances, pay for you portions, which would be 1/4 or less of household expenses, and let DH pay for the rest. Also discuss a launching schedule and chore sharing with him.