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smurfy1smile's picture
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So far my BF has not paid BM any child support. They do not have a formal agreement or a court order. BM is resistint all efforts by BF is figure it out. It's her way or no way. BF offered to pay her $200 a month until things were worked out and she refused. They went to mediation once and the mediator even asked her why she did not take the $200 and she did not really have a good reason. BM complains about how expensive baby is but still goes on trips every few months, buys expensive cars, claims to spend $200 a month on diapers,pays for daycare when she is on vacation and pays rent/utilities for 2 houses. Baby comes to us dirty in ill fitting clothes and sometimes not dressed for the weather. We do not ask BM to provide anything while he is in BF's care except breast milk when she was supposedly exclusively nursing which ended when he was 6 months old. Even then she would give us like an ounce for 4 hours for a 5 month old. Yeah, like that would satisfy him for half an hour.

BF does provides everything when baby is here like he should - formula, baby food, wipes, diapers, clothes, bath supplies, toys, crib, bedding, car seat (just got a new one that should last until he is out of a car seat, it turns into a booster seat), stroller, high chair, bouncy seat, meds, diaper cream, bibs, bottles, pacifiers, etc. So to say BF does not support his child is incorrect. We also do almost all the driving so that includes the cost of gas, insurance, and maintenance for the vehicle baby it transported in. Before BM allowed BF to have baby overnight, he spend almost $100 every Sunday to see his son - gas to get there and back, food for the trip for the 2 of us, food for baby, clothes, diapers, etc, for baby for a 4 hour visit. We even baby proofed the house before the first overnight visit just to be on the safest side of caution. that also cost some bank to do.

So is this in anyone's opinion considered a form of child support?

sweetthing's picture

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If your interested maybe we could hook up & I could give you guys some stuff.

smurfy1smile's picture

$200 for diapers maybe for twins or triplets. Hopefully since she refused CS several times and we have the emails to prove the judge will rule in favor of no arrears. That would serve BM right for crying poor and taking trips, buying expensive cars, etc.

Its nice to gets a man's opinion!

SM#1's picture

In WI none of that counts for CS. We have everything for SD9 as well always have. It does not count for anything. We thought they should at least reduce CS, we have to provide the same things for the child as if she was living with us. But it does not matter, CS is 17% no matter what.

You never know if she refused the $200 a month she may not be able to get retro pay----ask an attorney.

melis070179's picture

No, its not considered child support. He will have to have all that stuff and pay cs once it is ordered. Once she files the judge can back date it as well, so he'll probably owe a good chunk of money to her unless he gets 50/50 custody, then he may not have to pay or it won't be as much. Has she filed for cs yet?

"Nobody will ever win the battle of the sexes. There's too much fraternizing with the enemy"

rachaemdea's picture

Sadly. I wish I could make our BM pay for the food the skids eat! Haha...oh welly.

But seriously. At least you have it on record with the mediator that she refused. Get all the proof you can, hopefully in writing, that she is refusing to get the money so if they try to go backwards on you, you're covered...mostly. The judge will see that hopefully.

Also, CS is based on wages earned, how many kids, what expenses they worked out (medical&dental), all that stuff so it won't matter how much he pays to keep the child and his gas. But! Hopefully, the judge, if you go to court, or the mediator, will have her meet you halfway when you meet the child and she'll have to pay half.

my DH just randomly agreed to $300 a week for 3 girls when they got divorced. We pay dental and BM does medical. Anything not covered by insurance is split between them. He wasn't making enough to do that he just agreed to it w/o thinking. Then he got a better job when living with me and was able to pay that easily. We went to court and the judge said that was about right and didn't mess with it. Now DH owns his own company and is back down to the original amount he was making and the CS is too high for us. We've been paying the $300 a week for 3 years now and can have it looked at again, so we are. BM is in for a world of hurt when she finds out. Oh what a glorious day that will be!

Not to sound mean or anything, but they get a bunch of crap they don't need. If we have more money then we can do more fun things with them and actually be able to buy them things they need/want more than we are able to now, which is not much.

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