His ex finally gave us evidence, RIGHT BEFORE COURT!!!
So my husband JUST had mediation with his ex wife 10 days ago. They agreed on almost everything. The mediator filed the report and sent it out to the lawyers, and the final court date is January 2nd.
One of the things SHE wanted to change was pick up Christmas morning from 8am to 9am. So that is listed in the report:
"Mother gets children from pickup 9am to the last day of Christmas break at 5pm on which the father shall pick up the children from the mother's home."
The only thing that changed was the 8am to 9am.
BUT this morning she shows up at 9am, leaves with the kids, then starts calling the house phone and my husband's cell phone. AND she was dumb enough to leave a voicemail message on my husband's phone saying something like this:
"I am pulling in your driveway to get the kids backpacks because I get to take them to school. Don't make me have to involve law enforcement to get this done."
She then comes and bangs on our front door.
I told my husband not to answer it, but he does. ( and was actually quite civil and even tempered)
She states that she needs the kids backpacks that she is supposed to take them to school.
He responds that in fact she does not and he will pick them up January 5th at 5pm, the day before school starts that that is what was agreed upon in mediation.
She disagrees.
By this time I've got the mediator's report of everything which was discussed and hand it to my husband.
He shows her the paper stating the date and time that he will get them back.
She says she did not agree to that.
So he asks "So the mediation was worthless? This paper means nothing?"
She said the only thing they changed was one thing about her weekends, nothing else on that paper is true.
So I interrupted, took my husband by the arm and guided him back inside the door and said, "Then court."
My husband came inside and I locked the door.
She continued to scream and pound on the door.
She said something about me choking her son when we were handing out presents, and something about never letting my husband see the kids again.
I yelled through the door. "Get off our property"
She said, "It's not YOUR property"
So my husband said, "It's my property. Get off my property."
This whole time she is yelling and banging on the door.
I yelled "I'm calling 911"
I went and got the phone and dialed.
Showed her I was on the phone through the window and she got off the porch and got int he car and ripped out of the driveway and drove away.
I spoke with the dispatcher on 911 and said I just needed documentation of the event and described it to him, explaining she left when she heard me begin talking on the phone.
SO WHAT COMES OUT OF THIS WHOLE EVENT????
My husband goes to court January 2nd for post mediation update to the judge.
The mediator will give testimony of how everything was agreed on in the mediation.
Our lawyer will play the voicemail of her yelling that she gets different time.
We will finally have proof to show the judge that his ex wife is a freaking psychopath that flips on and off like a switch!!!
***What I like the most about her voicemail is that she admits she left-obviously able to see that the kids did not have their backpacks, (something was said to trigger) and ten minutes later she turns around and decides to go back to get backpacks because suddenly she is going to keep them until school...
She is going to look like a freaking loon to the judge.
Geez, I hope for the kids
Geez, I hope for the kids sake that they didn't have to witness their mother acting like this yet again, it may be something that they are already aware of (that their mother is nuts). My kids saw their father physically abuse me two times. Needless to say the kids and I moved out immediately after the second incident. It had a bad effect on my eldest son as he was 6 years old and remembers it. My other 2 don't remember it. This type if behavior is really damaging to the kids. Sounds like BM is going to end up losing her kids if she continues to act this way. I mean if she doesn't lose them in court, she will lose them emotionally as they grow up as they realize that she is abusive to their father.
Yes, the boy was standing
Yes, the boy was standing right next to his mother on the porch. Couldn't tell if the two girls were right there next to the boy or watching from the car, but either way, the girls saw her too.
Oh that's horrible. Poor kid
Oh that's horrible. Poor kid
What the children saw was a
What the children saw was a bunch of adults so preoccupied with finding out who can hurt whom worse that no one had the time to make sure their kids were protected from this ugliness. Kids do not have the same defense mechanisms as we do and to them this very well might have looked like the world had gone mad. It can feel very scary.
You are trying to say, the BM is to blame. I think when the kids are in the picture, as in: they are physically there, it falls to both adults to make sure they are not going to be having nightmares after this scene, when both mom and dad have already moved on and found comfort in the arms of their respective partners or friends.
I am speaking from experience... i remember witnessing similar scenes as a child. Many years later, I grew up to judge both my parents very harshly. They did not care about me in those insane moments. They fought like crazy and then dusted themsleves off and moved on. I could not. It was hell. Any victory mom or dad are hoping to score in this way will be meaningless compared to the trauma the kids suffered. The dad told mom "Get off my property" with the son standing next to her? It will take a lot of years to live that down.
You made an excellent point.
You made an excellent point.
I would really like to hear
I would really like to hear how you would have handled this situation.
How you would have controlled the situation?
Made the crazy woman stop pounding on the door and leave?
I just don't know what to
I just don't know what to say. I might have answered to quickly without thinking it through. I have to be honest, I don't know what I would've done. It's so easy for me to sit back and say whatever I do online but I know in reality that if I was in this position I would be really confused. I hope I didn't create the impression that I am better than others and think I know how to deal with every situation. In fact I feel embarrassed. My hope for this family is that they can work it out and in the future that no one has to go through this. I was trying to be supportive but maybe I erred in my way of expressing it.
Curious what you would have
Curious what you would have suggested they should have done.. let the fighting continue?
I just don't know what to say
I just don't know what to say in regards to what I would've done. It's a tough situation and perhaps my initial impression is incorrect which leads me to believe that maybe I wouldn't have handled it correctly. I feel badly for everyone involved. I hope they can come to a solution that will provide everyone the peace and happiness they deserve.
You said your husband opened
You said your husband opened the door and was civil and even tempered. Things didn't really turn nasty till you involved yourself and gave your husband the papers. I can't help but wonder what would happen if the new partners didn't involve themselves in these things ESPECIALLY in front of the ex. She was probably thinking you needed to butt out, it was between her and him, and you know what. She was right. Your husband appeared to be handling it, you should not have gone anywhere near that door. I know the argument is imam supporting my husband. But fighting with his ex and expressing your opinions in front of her is not supporting him. You do that after he closes the door and needs you understanding.
It's easy to say that adults
It's easy to say that adults should put the children first but some women literally would throw the kids to the wolves if they thought it would hurt their ex-spouse and they could get away with it. Emotionally many women do just that and do get away with it leaving the kids scarred for life.
There is only one way to end it. A written court order and strict adherence to it. Once its in place allow and ask for no variance - not one minute. After a few years she might have settled down enough to talk sanely. The key word being "might".