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Stepdad2024's picture

I feel completely lost.

Relationship with SD 22 broke down 6 months ago and we don't speak anymore. My wife and I are moving with our 2 biological sons and this involved cleaning out the atic space. I found property belonging to SD (a lapdancing pole) and dropped it off at her address this morning.

This evening she decided to cause a huge argument because I dropped it off and told me I wasn't allowed at her home. I responded telling her she was no longer welcome in my home and out of anger told her she wasn't seeing my children anymore. I've since retracted this and recognised it wasn't the way to go.

To my wife's credit she came home and wasn't an arse with me and I caused the fight because I was hurt but it feels like this split in our family is too big. When we argue about it we both end up talking about splitting up.

I know she is in a very difficult situation and I don't expect her to sacrifice her relationship with her daughter but I'm not letting SD speak to me disrespectfully and have no consequences.

It's a massive mess and I feel like it might be too hard to carry on. It's not what I want but I don't want to get to the stage where we hate each other and it affects our boys.

I have no idea what to do.

Survivingstephell's picture

A temporary separation might be next, give everyone to cool down.  
 

As for the SD, her mother can see her outside of the house and you need to just disengage from her totally.  The bios don't need to see her right, she sounds like a hot mess right now.  Not everyone slides into adulthood gracefully.   Boundaries are your friend.  SD  put some in place, you put some in place.  Respect them.   

Stepdad2024's picture

Thank you. It just feels like no matter what I decide none of them have a good outcome.

Stepdad2024's picture

My wife won't allow me to prevent access of SD to her brothers but I've told her all access now needs to be supervised.

I've told her SD isn't welcome in our home and must wait outside if she is coming to see her.

My wife refuses to see how toxic SD is being and why I have concerns and I don't seem to have the language to explain. Every time it's discussed we row. 

PetSpoiler's picture

Anyone who can't treat both me and my husband with respect don't get to have a relationship with my kids.  Period.  I wouldn't let her near your kids.  Who knows if she might decide to try and turn them against you? 

Stepdad2024's picture

I've told her all contact with SD must be supervised now until I'm confident she isn't poisoning my children against me.

I've said anything that is fed back through SD will not be listened to and if she is unable to have contact and not discuss me then contact will be limited.

It hurts that after 16 years of raising her and paying for everything it's come to this.

AgedOut's picture

first off, if you find something of hers, tell your wife and if it's not given over throw it out after 48 hrs. 

second, your wife is more than able to form a relationship w/ her daughter outside your home. 

have you considered marital counselling? it may be the last thing that can be done to save what you know is falling apart. 

ESMOD's picture

Have you thought about trying to do family counseling with your SD?  It feels like your relationship with her has been painted into a corner.  Perhaps her GF is controlling and you represented a threat to her... and so you were who the GF focused the war on.

It's tough to understand though.. as her only father figure.. to have all feelings turn like a light switch.. I would be interested in figuring out how to fix it vs setting  up isolated camps at war.

I would also consider that divorce would likely cause more issues.. as your kids would then be given free access to their older sister.. but add in the resentment of the family breaking up.. you would probably be an even bigger scapegoat.

But, counseling wiht your sd.. and with your wife (separately).. seem in order.. I would hope the goal could be to mend fences.. not create more isolation for yourself.

Harry's picture

I DW has to do something, she can't just wish things will change. If SD means so much to DW. Let SD support her. I know DW wants a '''Happy Family  '''    Maybe seeing someone is a answer. Just you two to start to get your relationship right first.  If you get yours and DW to a workable relationship.  Then try to work on SD.  
Knowing SD relationships will never be the same.    Certain thing are just not undoable.  

Rags's picture

Second guessing yourself does nothing but distrupt and cause turbulence. However, clearly understanding the topography at play regarding SKidults and their BioParent that we are married to gives us, is a never ending map to adjust to in the drama and conflict.

Stop fighting with your DW and tell her what is required for SD to have a place in the family. If mom wants to engage outside of that then she does it alone without you or the young ones.  Exposing young children to toxic older sibs, half sibs or otherwise, is not what quality parents force to happen.  My SS is the eldest of 4 SpermIdiot spawned half sibs by three different  baby mamas.  In our blended family journey, SS is the one who chose to step away from the toxic SpermIdiot, SpermGrandHag, and sadly his three younger half sibs that include spawn #2 who is on the dole, #3 who is in prison, and #4 who is not far behind the convict.

Place your boundaries, and defend them even if that means holding your own DW accountable for keeping her eldest away from your/jher younger children. Children that do not deserve to be flushed down the crapper with their elder sister.

My SS refused to flush himself down the crapper with with his father and his three younger half sibs.  It broke his heart, but as an adult of character he did what was hard.

The mother of your children needs to do the same thing. As does their father. You.

Stop waffling, stop fighting with your DW. Set your stance, defend it, and tolerate no bullshit from either DW or SD.  Be direct. be calm, and make it clear to your DW that she has no choice or she will lose her marriage, you, and your boys.  

We put together masses of fact, documents, etc... to protect our son.  The most infuriating thing in our 16+ years under a CO was that the Judge was hell bent on retaining contact between SS and the SpermClan.  Though we kicked ass otherwise. Full physical and legal custody was upheld for my DW, a pittance in CS was ordered, and limited long distance visitation was ordered.  In the 16+ years that the CO was in effect SS saw his Spermidiot no more than portions of maybe 12 days per year though the SpermGrandHag did continually manipulate and took her idiot son's visitation.  Our son succeeded where the preceeding generations in the SpermClan and sadly his three younger sibs were doomed to follow the failure path because they were raised by the same failed adults who created their serial statutory rapist Spermidiot.  All it takes to give kids a chance to avoid that crap is one person preferably their quality parent, to defend their future to the fullest extent possible. Keep in mind that your boy's mom is a failed parent. She created your SD. The SD who is the catalyst to the demise of your marriage and  your family if your DW does not gain clairity.

Document, document, document and if necessary, protect your boys to the fullest if their mother makes the wrong choice.

IMHO of course.

Stepdad2024's picture

Thanks

It's all very new to me. Everything changed a year ago and this is completely out of my comfort zone!

Rags's picture

I have. Many have.  The key is to either set and defend your boundaries or cut and get on with living your best life.

I escaped a blessedly short though toxic marriage to a serially adulterous spouse who is in the process of repaying $Millions that her mother and family embezzled from her mother's employer. It was mainly XMIL but the business owner sued the entire family and won a $Multi-Million judgment against the whole family except my XBIL who was long gone a decade before the law suit and then federal charges and trial occurred that convicted XMIL on top of nailing XMIL, XFIL, XW, and XSIL for the $Millions they had to repay.

I escaped, took my do-over and have lived an incredible life including my 30+ year marriage to an incredible woman.  My escape was 22 years before the legal shit storm and was facilitated by my serially adulterous XW filing for divorce when she was knocked up by one of her many cheat partners.  He ultimately became XH #2.  Aft last count, she was on her 3rd husband but who knows how many she has had more than a decade later.

Do not discount you, do not accept anything less than living your best life. Hopefully your partner pulls their head out of their own ass and is a part of that. If not, there is no shame in a do-over.

Take care of yourself.

I would rather role the dice on a do-over than play out an obviously losing hand with a partner who has clearly shown who and what they are that is not capable of making a life of adventure and a love for the ages with me. To death do us part should not include toxic from a partner.

CLove's picture

I must have missed something.

You should have kept it, of course, and DW and you can have some major workout sessions with it. Get nice and fit!