Yet another blow up with H and I'm tired
H and I were alone last night for dinner. I've discovered that he isn't good at communicating...how's your day dear, what'd you do...that's all fine and good, but that's pretty much it. He's not good at planning what to do with our time together or talking about important stuff like financing the house or how to get the kids to their games out of town. So I have come to the conclusion that when he has nothing to converse about, he picks fights. And he picked a fight last night about, you guessed it, bm.
We started off having a good nice talk about it all and how things are getting better in every way all around. But I made the mistake of telling him how I feel...that every night I feel sick to my stomach at the thought of coming home because I'm scared of finding her at our house...even in the driveway. After all the crap with her, just the sight of her makes me physically sick. So H starts to get an attitude about it, like I'm supposed to be over it now...I mean it was almost a month ago that she last was in our home. I said the pain lingers and I live being terrified that they're still in love or something. So that starts a bigger fight with him. I wasn't accusing him, just venting my feelings...that I'm scared. And he took it as fuel to fight.
So he goes to work and I'm home. He calls me later to chat like he always does, but somehow works back to the bm fight. I tell him I'm just scared of losing him because I fear deep down that he loves her still and isn't over her..i didn't accuse him of sleeping with her or anything..I just said I felt these fears. So he flips out and we argue and I tell him i'm tired and going to bed.
I stayed up all night because I'm sick over everything. I try so hard to be a good sm...I cook, clean, etc. because that's how I show my love to my family, among other things. But I feel like no matter what I do, it's not enough to get him to validate my feelings about bm or even get that I'm hurting...he just takes it all like, "What? That was a month ago? Why aren't you over it yet?!" I don't know how to get him to say that the last year of her intruding into our lives and home has made me sick, tired and scared that we don't have a future...he just takes that all as me accusing him of screwing her...and that was not at all what I was saying. Do y'all get what I'm saying, or is it me?
So I texted him late last night saying I was sorry...I'm not sure for what, I was just sorry we had a disagreement and he didn't go off to work in a good mood. He never responded...and I was up all night feeling sick over everything. So I wrote him this 4 page letter about what I'm afraid of and what makes me happy...no accusations, just things I feel inside.
So this morning he came home and got into it again but good. He just gets so angry when I say I think he has feelings for his ex...he gets completely irrational when I say that. I'm not saying to to p*ss him off, I just say that's how I feel and what I'm scared of and his reaction when I say it makes me think he's not being honest with me. Oh, plus I asked him about the text message and he said he didn't get it,right...so later on in our argument he says something about how I didn't mean I was sorry blah blah blah...and I go, "Ah ha! you liar, you did get my message?!" and he knew he was caught in a lie. So he says "Oh well, I only got part of it..." Ok, I know that can happen sometimes but really how likely is that? So I had caught him in a lie for whatever reason.
Now I'm not sure what we're going to do next. He said some really hurtful things this morning, mostly that I'm crazy...which I said "you're damn right--I may be crazy as a flying rat's ass but you have feelings for your exwife!"
I read him my letter and he took it like I was accusing him of all these things..that he wants his ex back, etc...which wasn't at all what I said he had *done* but what my *fears* are. The letter didn't do anything to ease his mind, but made him angry that I'd "accuse" him. So I left for work.
H had the nerve to ask me if I was coming home tonight...liek I have anywhere else to go...all my stuff is there now so I have no where else to be except my empty apartment (my friends have offered to let me stay with them though all along)...then he has the nerve to tell me that his kids are *counting* on me to be there tonight to make them dinner and be there because tonight is our night with them and since he will be at work, they can't be home alone. That sounds pretty crappy, but I think, knowing him, it's his way of saying he doesn't want me to leave...he's not good at saying how he feels, so he uses his kids an excuse to make me feel guilty.
I don't know where we're going from here. H is really angry and I'm tired of it. He twists it all around to make me out to be jealous and petty. I don't know that I'm wrong for being hurt that his ex has been in and out of my house at will for months...but H doesn't see it that way. He figures now that she's gone all is supposed to be ok. He can't get that I'm stll hurt.
So now I don't know what tomorrow's going to bring.
Thanks for listening girls and sorry this was so long.
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Girl, please....
You have NOTHING to feel guilty about! I think it sounds like H is an insecure little man who is using you to take care of his kids. He only wants you to come home to take care of his kids??? WTH is that? Personally, I would make plans to move my things back into my apartment while he is at work. I do think I remember you saying in an earlier post about him destroying your things, right? He doesn't sound at all like someone you would want to be with does he?
I'm still in the planning phase
I'm planning my finances and my move so I can get away. I'm not so sure this guy is the right one for me at this point. Gotta make sure my bases are all covered before I split though.
I get what you're saying, loud and clear
"To Thine Own Self Be True" William Shakesphere
You are not accusing him of cheating on you, you are afraid of his feelings for his ex. And that makes him angry, which makes you more afraid...vicious cycle.
I don't think there's a woman on here who would appreciate coming home to find H's ex in her home. That's our domain. Period. And the fact that you had to fight that issue for so long probably only compounds the insecurity you are feeling about his emotions towards his ex. And rightfully so.
Your H is alot like mine. We don't have important dicussions. He makes decisions without consulting me-some major and some minor. And everyone of them brings resentment. For example-I'm still harboring hard feelings over H and his ex deciding SD13 would come to live here with me-without even consulting me at all! And the way he acted when I refused...I really can't wait to find the right therapist and pour out the loathing I feel over things like this.
You H should be assuring you and reassuring you of his love for you, instead of getting angry when you bring up your fears. It's clear, so clear what you need. I think our H's have some problems, some serious problems with listening and comprehending what is being said. Because they look at the world from only one view point-theirs.
Where was this behavior when we were dating them?
thank you so much for understanding
I'm glad it's not just me. I thought I explained it to H the right way, but he just can't get it. I feel sometimes like I'm an idiot because I can't get him to understand.
No he wasn't this way when we were dating. He was an all around nice guy...everyone at work thinks he is just the greatest, nicest person around. They call him the gentle giant. At home, I just call him the jerk.
I can totally relate
It is a circle girl and I know that you feel like you are chasing your tail! I used to have these fights with my FH ALL THE TIME. Now I know for sure that my FH has no feelings for BM at all but then when we see our guys bend over backwards for them what else are we supposed to think? As I said my FH USED to do this and our fights would last for days and we would sleep in seperate rooms and just pretty much hate the sight of each other because we could not communicate. I will tell you what I have learned - this is not your fault. I found myself apologizing and coming forward to my FH all the time just to try to keep the peace because he would get so mad. I finally had it and told him that unless he agreed to couples counseling to work out our problems that we were done. i wanted someone that cared about me and put me first and could feel comfortable talking to me. This was a big turning point for us. I knew in my heart that if he refused to go to counseling that our relationship was over and I would move on with my life but if he did go I would give counseling my all. He agreed and things have gotten so much better btwn us. Your DH sounds a lot like how my FH used to be. Get a good therapist he/she will point out that you are not asking for anything extraordinary. the therapist told my FH - EMA is chasing after you to have a normal relationship and you are pulling away because you are angry and bitter and have not dealt with your baggage and in turn when ever EMA tries to talk to you you take your anger and unhappiness out on her. T - everything is not about DH - your feelings count, what you say counts, and your happiness counts. Would you consider moving out again and going to counseling together. Let's see if you DH will work as hard for you as he does for BM. Let us know how you are doing and I'm sorry that you are going through this. I used to feel like I was stuck under water trying to swim to the surface and I could just never get there...
yes yes yes that's it!
I get so mad because bm causes all these problems and walks away like a cheshire cat and I'm there fighting with H. grrr!!! And all he ever had to do was just stand up to her...not even be mean just say please don't enter our home.
I'm trying to get him to go to therapy but he's just an a** about it. He hates my therapist whom he's never met, he hates my friends and family cuz they support me...anyone who doesn't tell him he's right and wonderful is a loser in his book. I know he has good qualities but he also has issues just like everybody else, but he won't address them.
You sound like you've been through similar things and it's really helpful to know it's not just me and my jerk with these problems.
I hear ya!!!
Of course he hates all your friends and family cuz now the secret is out that he lets BM step all over him and he knows that he looks like a fool!!!! My FH used to not want to see my friends or my family cuz he said well they only know your side of the story and I side oh my side of the story is different then your side of the story. I told them that BM did this this and this was I flippin lying? He said no - so i said so how did they not know YOUR side of the story dumbass. Of course i got no answer. I think your DH is really embarrased because he feels stuck with that stupid BM and her BS but once he is free it will feel like a ton of bricks has fallen off his shoulders. It is just a matter of getting him there. BTW - FH is now totally cool with my friends and LOVE my family - he can't get enough of my family. Again - what a dumbass!!! If he doesn't go to therapy then move to your condo!!!! I'm not just saying this crap cuz I'm a woman - i don't even know you but ANY outsider looking in that reads/hears the crap that goes on thinks all the crap we put up with is NUTS!!!! I'm not just talking about women but men are like I don't let my baby's mama treat me like that I have a life.