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Hi everyone!! Question about CS

bellacita's picture

Im new to steptalk...i will write all about my story later but i had a quick question and was wondering if anyone could help. My future DH has just been imformed he is losing his job as of next march. If he doesnt get a job immediately, will he still have to pay CS until he gets a new job? He is going to mediation soon & we want to bring this up bc it is likely he will not be able to get a job at his current income level...he is only making as much as he is now bc he has been w the company for several yrs. How does all this affect his future CS payments? will they be based on his current income now, even if he gets lower paying job in future? im in missouri, if that helps. Also, if down the road, i made enough money for him to not have to work and be a stay-at-home dad to our future kids, how will this affect his CS obligation? Not trying to get out of CS, this is just a very real possibility w my job in the future. Thank u for yr time and i look forward to being a member and meeting everyone here!!

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gertrude's picture

To get CS. Her BF hasn't been employes, well, ever. He is pretty much a total deadbeat. The court assessed him on his "earning potential". And - he is required to pay it. We are in an entirely different state from him - several states away. So, I think the answer is yes. He is required to pay regardless of employment. (It could be different in your state though.

Elizabeth's picture

We are in Missouri as well. SD15 is going to live with BM, so we must pay CS. CS will be based on husband's current earnings, as I understand it. If at some point in the future your husband chooses not to work, he still must pay CS, likely the same amount. The state "imputes" earnings to someone who is not employed, equal to what they could be making if they were employed. Not working is not an excuse to not support your kids, in other words.

If at some point in the future your husband loses his job and takes a lower-paying job, you can petition the court to change the CS to be based on his new earnings.

Chel Bell's picture

I have been all around the block with this issue. He knows he will be unemployed, they will tell him to collect unemployment, and take support out of that, he can get his CS modified to a lower amount but it has to be modified through the courts....it takes a while. If he becomes a stay at home dad.....don't think thats even possible when you have a support obligation against you, he still has to pay somehow, you dont want to pay it, do you?? Sorry to get so personal, but it's not a good path to take because of his obligation. Talk about this in mediation, but getting it modified will probably be all you can do. Unfortunatly Dad's are always expected to work...no matter what because of CS. ~"Resist all the urges.... that make you want to go out and kill." ~ Chel.

Chel Bell's picture

To be really smart about this , he should try as hard as possible to find a new job, anything is better than unemployment, my DH went through all this 2 yr. ago, he did not find a job fast enough, so he had to file unemployment, they took portions of that, but it was not enough to cover the support amount, and getting it modified took forever, so he fell behind. You have time on your side right now, so start the process ~"Resist all the urges.... that make you want to go out and kill." ~ Chel.

bellacita's picture

there is an issue of severance if he terms out w the current job; if he gets a job b4 his end date, he wont be entitled to that money. so we were thinking maybe wait, get severance, pay stuff off and then save part of it to cover CS until he finds new job. most likely he will get a job w lower pay bc like i said his pay now is based on over 15 yrs at the same company. as far as being a stay at home dad, that is a possibility in the future given my job and i would in that case pay support...we are a team and its our money...why would i send my kids to daycare if he were in a position to stay home w them just bc of her? my question is, what is it based on then? also, why do they take the dads earning potential into consideration but not the moms?? BM here makes minimum wage and dropped out of nursing school to continue being a secretary and making peanuts. and she has alot of help financially and babysitting wise from her family plus we had visitation to cover when she went to school. how fair is it that he has to pay alot bc shes a loser and he makes good money? i know thats the way it is, just a vent!

ColorMeGone2's picture

...that if he becomes involuntarily unemployed, then finds a job making less, he could ATTEMPT to have the amount lowered by petitioning the court for a modification of the CS amount based on his new salary. They may or may not grant it. If he is voluntarily unemployed, such as deciding to become a SAHD, well, he's SOL, because he STILL has to support his other children and, like the others said above, they may base the amount on historical figures. It's not always about just what you make now, but what you have made in the past. Because he has had the potential to make that amount of money in the past, they may base the amount on his most recent salary.

I don't know how it is in your state, but I think in many states the amount is based on both parents' incomes and income potentials. You make more, you pay more. You have the ability to make more, then you have the ability to pay more. Fair or unfair doesn't enter into the equation. She could always argue that SHE could've been a SAHM if they'd stayed married, and some judge might see that as reason to award her a higher amount than HE would be awarded for doing the same thing. Could he have afforded to be a SAHD if he'd stayed married to her? Probably not. The supposed purpose of setting a certain amount of CS is to keep the status quo as much as possible for the kids after the divorce. I

f you don't mind making up the difference, that's your call, but you should probably plan to pay what he's paying now, because I doubt you'll get it lowered based on his decision to not work. Having said that, another thing to consider is that if you go back for a modification based on him earning a lower salary AND the two of you have another child to support, that could lower the amount. Could, not will. Some states don't take future children into consideration, some do. My state did and we did get the CS lowered in mediation based on the original amount being too high in the first place - more than half DH's bring home pay - the fact that BM makes 2/3 of their combined salary and is actually responsible for a larger share of the total CS amount than DH is based on the state's calculation, and also based on the fact that DH had adopted my son and I was 8 mos pregnant with our daughter when we went to mediation, which was two more children to support than he had when the original CS amount was set.

The best advice I can give, though, is to CYA the whole way. Make sure you have enough $$$ set aside to pay the full amount while you're waiting to find out if it can be lowered and be prepared to not have it lowered, or even to have it go up, based on changes in any of the other factors that go into the calculation. It's a crap shoot.

♥ Georgia ♥

"Good men don't just happen. They have to be created by us women." (from ROSEANNE)

bellacita's picture

i will post my story later but they were never married and she lied to get pregnant...beside the point...it just makes me mad that they dont take HER potential earnings into account. its okay for her to keep making minimum wage when she COULD be making more if she wouldve stayed in nursing school...ugh! and trust me, we are not trying to get out of his obligation, he has always and will always support FSD...from day one he gave her so much w/o hesitation and they only had to go thru the courts recently bc of her vindictive behavior and her lies. SO...i want him to always support FSD but if we can use the situation to our advantage and not pay the lazy witch so much, that would be great! wishful thinking i know!