The Day has Come....
Stopping in to say hi and show how things come full circle. As someone who disengaged probably three years ago, I'm rarely bothered by anything dealing with SS. When I first entered this marriage, boy did I ever try to make us into the perfect little family. I was in for such a rude awakening. SHOCKER, bio-parents don't care to have another person to love their child, because our idea of what that meant was completely different. Bio-parents believe love is in the form of never saying no, never making SS do anything he doesn't want to do, giving him everything he wants, and telling him endlessly how fantastic he is!!
SS's performance in school has steadily declined over especially the past two years. He does not want to do anything other than be on his computer and play video games. He was allowed to play video games for days at a time, never had to lift a finger to do anything. Texted his mother and grandmother to bring him tea so he wouldn't have to pause his game. And they did it!! He has no interest in driving, has never worked for money in his life. DH has tried to get SS to go with him to do a side job, there's no doubt he would have been way overcompensated for his small effort...but SS says no, he doesn't want to go. I feel this child has been failed in a huge way. Every time I tried to point out the damaging behavior, I was told I hated SS.
Well...the day has come. DH and BM now find themselves with a 16 yo child who is antisocial, lazy, and unmotivated. They can't get him to do anything. I did tell my DH today that I saw this coming years ago. I reminded him how I was demonized for wanting a better future for SS when he was younger. I reminded DH that he got angry with me whenever I mentioned that you have to think ahead to how things would affect him in the future.
BM told DH today she thought about talking to the doctor about his behavior. Her words, "because it does worry me, it scares me actually." Well I told DH, this can all be traced back to the words she said about four years ago when there was a fight about SS coming to our house when he didn't want to come. She had said, "I'm not going to make him do anything he doesn't want to do, and I'm not going to make him go anywhere he doesn't want to go." How's that looking for you now, BM??
Side question: We are responsible for providing insurance for SS. I just looked at the papers yesterday, and the wording says, "...until such time as allowed by law." Please tell me this doesn't mean we will be forced to pay for his insurance until he is 26?? And, for the purposes of this conversation, let's assume he won't be going to college. Our plan was to tell BM it was her turn to cover him after all these years if she didn't want to make him work.
My husband and I are in
My husband and I are in agreement about not allowing him to live with us if he is not trying to support himself. I'm fairly certain BM will be content to let him be a bum in the back bedroom for the rest of his life. She is remarried, and I think it's only because of stepdad that she may be seeing anything in a different light. She has stated that SS not doing things at home "causes problems around here." The wording is very telling to me. It's not a problem for her, it just causes problems with stepdad. So stepdad may disagree with providing for SS as an adult, too. Remains to be seen.
THIS!!!! :
"My ex thought giving my son what he wanted was 'unconditional love' I just called it indulgence, although my son was never aggressive in any way so neither parent was ever 'frightened' of him."
That's exactly what I have witnessed! SS has not been aggressive, either. I don't think that's what she's referring to when she says she is scared. She is scared that he's not going to be normal. SS can actually be a very sweet kid, but sometimes I think it's part of the manipulation that keeps him from having to grow up.
"SS can actually be a very
"SS can actually be a very sweet kid, but sometimes I think it's part of the manipulation that keeps him from having to grow up."
This!! OMG I have felt so guilty about suspecting the same thing of SS17. Time will tell...
Well, you're probably right
Well, you're probably right about her being scared of him growing up. And my DH is almost as guilty of it as she is. It's a good thing my DH and I couldn't have babies, because our parenting styles are polar opposites.
Being supportive is one thing; being used, quite another. Ask me how I know....
At the very least, it would
At the very least, it would take some motivation on the part of SS to take us to court; so it probably wouldn't be a concern. I've looked up several different attorney opinions since I posted this, and most say it will be hard to find a judge who will force a parent to support in the adult years.
You're very right about it
You're very right about it being the parents who need to change. The child is just doing what he's always known. As for my I-told-you-so attitude, you may be right that it doesn't help; but since I had to suck up being told repeatedly that everything I did was out of hatred for that child, I will chance "not helping" in the form of a civil conversation between my husband and I. This was not an argument by any stretch with him.
I am, in fact, a parent--not biologically to this child, but I have raised three of my own, by myself. They have grown to be strong, independent and thriving adults. In the same I-told-you-so conversation, I also told my husband I was far from a perfect parent. There were a lot of things I probably would have done differently if I had to do it over again. But it's so much easier to see those things after the fact. And that's what I tried to get across to my husband. Sometimes you do things out of love that just aren't perceived as love.
SS is definitely stunted, as you put it. He has never, in my opinion, been at the right emotional level for his age, because of all the coddling that went on. A big part of that was his grandmother, who is now dead. I just have a hard time just swallowing it and paying for the insurance just because he doesn't want to adult. I know I'm looking into the future when I say that, but I find it hard to believe this child is going to suddenly become a hard-working adult who takes care of himself when he is so far from that right now. I could be wrong. I'd love for him to prove me wrong. I just don't see it happening. I personally refuse to contribute to anyone who is not doing for themselves. Truth is, he's not handicapped, he's freaking lazy. Eight years of insurance at my current rate (SS is under my plan) would be well over $30,000. DH has free insurance, and I would otherwise pay $20 a month for mine.
The order by the judge was signed before Obamacare was enacted. So my argument would be that it was not the judge's intent to obligate DH to provide insurance until 26; rather what the law was at that time, until the age of majority or through the college years.
True. However, I'm pretty
True. However, I'm pretty sure if DH tells BM that we have covered him for all these years, and it's her turn, that she will get insurance on him. She's good at enabling. Otherwise, he should be able to get insurance fairly cheap for himself as a strapping, healthy young man just starting out on his own. It would probably be a lot cheaper than keeping him on our plan.
I WILL die on that hill! DH
I WILL die on that hill! DH and I couldn't make it if it happened, that I know for sure. Fortunately, DH sees it the same way (at least for now, let's hope that doesn't change when SS doesn't sprout those magical wings and fly). We both worked as soon as we were able. My bio-kids were chomping at the bit over the summer, waiting for the day they could get their work permits and go earn their own money. This kid isn't having none of it. But then again, he's never wanted for anything; so why would he??
Yep, I'm so anxious to have a
Yep, I'm so anxious to have a HOME again, a peaceful place without any lazy, lying, selfish, entitled stoney teenager around any more.
Hahaha!!! You're hilarious!
Hahaha!!! You're hilarious! But you are also spot on. Normal parents do want their kids to grow up and be independent. Who in their right mind would want a man-child living in their house leeching off of them?? Not this girl...
exH enabled ds20 for years.
exH enabled ds20 for years. Goaded him to live w/him through high school because he let him do whatever he wanted. ds20 barely graduated, never worked a job, never did chores or sports. exH suddenly gets a new serious gf and boots ds20 who is pretty helpless out the door to me. No asking, just lets me know he'll be dropping him off.
It was painful getting him going but ds20 now has a job and is acting so much more mature. He's even helping out and paying rent. I eventually want him to be a fully functioning adult able to live on his own. Can't stand leeches especially when I'm out busting my @ss all week.
when an adult child is this
when an adult child is this useless to society the parents are to blame.
sometimes its just so satisfying to tell someone "i told you so" when they ignored your well intentioned advice.