Help! BM furious over what I call my step kids - am I in the wrong?
I haven't been on here in ages but I'm in need of some help and to vent. And I apologize in advance for my long post. I have a lot on my mind. Quick background on my situation. I've been married to DH for 5.5 years now. He has 3 children from 2 different BMs, SS13 from BM1 who we have full custody of but get along very well with BM1 and her entire family. And SS11 and SD9 from BM2, which we have 52% custody. Things are NOT cordial whatsoever with BM2. DH was not married to BM1 but was married to BM2. There is a lot of drama involved there, too, but it's too much to get into. Let's just say he filed for divorce after catching her cheating with another married man. Together, DH and I have 2 kids, DS4 and DD2.
So, last week, BM2 started texting DH about a Facebook picture she saw on my page. We are not friends and my profile is private but she can see my profile pictures. About a month ago, I posted a pic of me, SD9, and DD2 from a recent vacation and added a profile frame in honor of International Girls Day. There was a few scentences regarding "on international girls day, let's remember the fight to get girls everywhere equal rights to education, health care, and..." so on and so forth. At the very end of the photo I typed "me and my girls!" And that was it. Well, BM2 laid into DH about how I am not their mother and I need to stop claiming to be and stop acting like their real birth mom is completely out of the picture. Again, this rant was over the simple words "me and my girls." If she was friends with me on Facebook, she'd know that I am always posting about being a step mom and having a blended family. It's something I'm very proud of. She wants me to remedy the situation by recognizing them as my step kids and not "my kids."
DH is a very patient individual and has learned over the years to simply brush it off. Me on the other hand, I still get upset and very anxious over her craziness.
So here's my question - is it wrong for me to call my step kids "my kids" or "my boys" or "my girls?" And by saying that, I don't mean pretending they're my biological kids at all. I mean, given this same scenario in which she totally lost her mind over. I do post pics of the kids often. And I never ever think of writing "happy thanksgiving from me, DH, my step kids, and my kids!" Or posting "my step kids and my kids had so much fun on vacation together this week!" It's always just "my kids!"
Here's my thought process... I have been a step mom longer than I have been a BM. And once I had DS and DD, I promised my step kids and DH that I would treat all of my kids equally. BM2 was SS13's step mom when DH and her were married. He would've been between the ages of 3 and 5 at the time. He still to this day talks about how horrible she was to him - verbally and physically abusive - but how she treated her own kids so wonderfully. SS13 was so badly affected by it that DH chose to sign over temporary guardianship to grandma until DH was able to get away from BM2 and stable again. So to me, even going out of my way to acknowledge them as "my step kids" on Facebook to an audience who already knows their my step kids or even introducing them or calling them by name with the separate designations is already treating them differently from each other. And I don't ask OR expect them to call me "mom." They have always called me by my first name, so much to the point where DS4 is now calling me by my first name instead of mom. But again, I know I'm not their BM, nor do I claim to be. And the way I think of the term "my kids" is similar to the way a school teacher has a classroom full of students and she calls them "my kids" yet doesn't claimed to have birthed them!
I try not to let her bully me. But she's a jerk. Even after being with SS11 and SD9 since they were 4 and 3 years old, she still tries to fill their heads with bull crap. First of all, they're not allowed to refer to me by name at her house. They're only allowed to call me "the bad word." She tells them that I'm "not their real mom and I'm not their step mom. I'm their fake mom." And every school year, including this one AGAIN, they have come home saying "mom says you can't sign our homework planners because you're our fake mom, only dad can." I could seriously go on and on... even more than I already have, lol. It breaks my heart hearing SS11 and SD9 come home and tell me these things. And thankfully they still follow it up with "but we love you and we want you to sign our planners because we like when you do our homework with us" or "we love you and we know you're not our fake mom." But if she asks them anything about me when they're at her house, they're not allowed to defend me or say anything nice about me or they get spanked and sent you time out. For example, if I paint SD9 nails and BM2 asks who did it, SD9 has to reply "my dad" so she doesn't get in trouble. I know what you're thinking and yes, we have taken ALL of this you court AND WORSE (like the time we caught her prostituting on her parenting night) and the court's response? "We don't agree with what she's doing but we don't think it makes her a bad mother." Let's just say our lawyer's refunded us our money after that astonishing loss and told us to put it towards counseling for the kids.
And even after all of this, DH and I have never and will never speak down about her in front of the kids. I know, sounds hard to believe. But we prefer to take the high road in any situation involving the kids.
I seriously cannot comprehend what she has against me. We have had very little interaction over the last 6 years. I was not "the other woman" as DH and her were divorced 2 years before DH and I started dating. I've never been rude or mean to her. She herself actually had a step dad whom she cared for very much! And gosh darnit I actually CARE about and love MY KIDS and they love me, too! BM1 and her family thank me often about loving SS13 and taking such good care of him and treating him like one of my own. So I'm pretty sure it's NOT me. But my brain is programmed to believe otherwise unfortunately. I was considering writing BM2 a letter about all of this, sort of as extending the olive branch for the kids sake. Then I thought twice about it and figured it would just open a door for her to attack me even more directly instead of via texting DH. I've also contemplated posting a public post on Facebook so she can see it the next time she stalks my page, lol. Nothing mean at all - just my side of the story but directed towards my Facebook friends. Still mulling that one over...
So any thoughts, opinions, words of encouragement, or advice at this point are very much welcomed. Thank you in advance for your help!
Regardless of BMs dellusions
Regardless of BMs dellusions the fact is that they are "your girls".
As is fairly regular advice in these situations... "ignor the whore".
I actually agree with Rags.
I actually agree with Rags. It is your and DH’s home, so do what works for you. You are married to DH and not BM. When they divorced, they knew or should have known that the other one would go on to marry someone else.
If BM can’t stand someone else loving or participating in her children’s lives, too bad. SM or step-dad isn’t the servant or cabana boy. Are you supposed to read BM’s mind and somehow magically know what does and does not upset her? Of course not. BM expected DH to be miserable after he divorced her and never remarry and hang around her for years doing her bidding. When this didn’t happen, it is all your fault for ‘trying to act like their mother’, when in reality, you are just doing what 99% of other women would do when they are around any kid. You are child—caring for them and helping them out.
One of my favorite sayings is, “It takes a village to raise a child.” Anyone who expects a SM or woman or man to turn a blind eye and avoid a child whenever the kid is around is truly delusional.
The OP did not claim that the
The OP did not claim that the SD was her BK. She only captioned a pic of the girls at a charity event as "my girls". They are "her" girls whether a BM takes exception to it or not. They are not her BKs but they are "her" girls none the less.
Echo I have such a big girl
Echo I have such a big girl crush right now.
Exactly Echo. By freaking
Exactly Echo.
By freaking out, BM let everyone know how much the language bothered her. Now it may become a pissing match. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean that you should.
So who is pushing the
So who is pushing the buttons? The SM who includes her SD in a blanket statement of "My girls" or the BM who gets her little girl panties in a bunch over such a non event?
The immaturity lands fully on the BM in this instance in my opinion. Parenting , being a mom, or being a dad, has nothing to do with biology and everything to do with taking the actions of parenting.
A SParent is a parent. A SKid... is a kid. These are facts and are uncontestable. The OP never said "The one on the left is MY daughter" or "I am their Mom".
A non event that unfortunately motivated BM to bare her own ass. Or... maybe fortunately. This kind of crap is so pathetic it is entertaining when the BP in the blended family opposition plays these idiot cards.
^^^^^^^^^^ Couldn't agree
^^^^^^^^^^ Couldn't agree more!
And OP should block her on FB from now on.
Disengagement I'm all for.
Disengagement I'm all for. If you have tried to get along with SKs and nothing has worked and DH is not supporting you. Disengagement fine.
BM acting like her kids are her kids alone and no one else can have a relationship with them (usually including their own father, her ex-) after the divorce. . . Nope.
Objecting to someone claiming
Objecting to someone claiming your kids is not the same as objecting to that person having a relationship with them.
My son loves his SM. They have had a great relationship from day one. She and I get along as well. She is quick to correct anyone who says my son or his half sister are her kids.
As much as I respect her, I would have been pissed if she ever did the my kid thing.
Right. And what are supposed
Right. And what are supposed to do--keep a 100 page spreadsheet of what irks BM and what doesn't, and make sure you follow it to a T? Life doesn't work that way.
You and DH are married and his kids are going to be spending time with their father and with you. SM is supposed to magically know the right words to use too when referring to SKs. Again, doesn't work that way.
But, I agree, no matter what SMs do, they can't win. That I agree with. Which is why you and your DH need to do what you feel is right in your home, and ignore everyone else. There are just too many bullies (and it doesn't matter what their relationship or professional title may be) running around trying to tell SM what she should or should not be doing. You and DH do what works for you.
Once SKs have aged out, if they have PAS'd out or don't want to have a relationship with you or DH, that is their choice. Then, there is disengagement.
Why not just write "the
Why not just write "the girls" or "the boys" or "the kids". That way their is no "ownership" in there - you are not separating the kids into steps or bio, most people are going to figure out they are not random neighborhood kids and you avoid the drama?
My ex gets mad still if I refer to BS10 as "my" son, as he says he is "our" son, part of his control issues, so I just refer to him as BS10. Not letting ex win, just avoiding the issue, and frankly my life is far easier avoiding thinking of it as a battle with winners and losers, in my mind I win if I avoid dealing with ex!
Not sad at all. There is no
Not sad at all. There is no wedge as BS10 I doubt even notices! My parents are still married and they always referred to my sister and I as "the girls", it was, and is completely normal.
i agree with your first
i agree with your first paragraph. h3ll, even here on STalk i'll refer to them as "the boys". and there have never been any issues with dumb@$$ regarding my place/role or title. i grew up in a stepfamily, and it was always "the kids".
I would go with "the girls"
I would go with "the girls" etc... too. Even though the BM's should thank their lucky stars that the new wife or girlfriend is a caring figure for their children... it seems like it's really important that people know who the "real" mother.
Like when my YSD was airlifted to the hospital. DH and myself got there first.. but when BM blows in.. she gets all in everyone's face that "I am HER MOTHER" etc.. worked out really handy since that was right around the time that the financial responsibility forms were being brought out for signature. I just kindly directed all that to "her mother". lol.
lovely!
}:) }:) }:) lovely!
I call my female friends "my
I call my female friends "my girls".
Seriously, learn to ignore BM. She gets no say over you. None, nada, zip.
It most certainly does not
It most certainly does not "look like dad is not parenting."
It looks like dad and his wife share the duties of the household.
It looks like dad and his wife are a team.
Yeah - those are such terrible things to be.
Sheesh...BM much??
not in HRNYC land. How about
not in HRNYC land.
How about just helping your husband out?
Sheesh!!
HR - homework IS part of the
HR - homework IS part of the household chores when one is in a family.
Kid things are absolutely part of household chores.
Guess you think helping out your husband, if you so desire, is just plain wrong.
*shrugs*
I choose not to post anything
I choose not to post anything on Facebook that refers to my sd as I do not want to deal with drama from BM causing a fuss. Of course she feels a need to get defensive she feels like you take her position and that you are trying to usurp her role in her kids life. Even you admit that the step mom stuff is all private. So to BM this is you taking her kids and claiming them as your own. Admittedly this is pretty insecure of her but it is not an unusual or unexpected sentiment for her to express. If you do not like the drama then avoid referring to them as 'my' kids anywhere that BM can see or anywhere that it might get back to her. Plenty of alternatives have been suggested above. If you are not fussed then just ignore her.
As I said on the other post,
As I said on the other post, which seems to have disappeared (?) I have no idea why women get their panties in a bumch over this. EVERYONE knows who "the mother" is and I highly doubt ANYONE is sitting around thinking that some BM suddenly terminated her parental rights by a SM saying "my."
I really don't get that.
On occasion, Money-Ka will refer to her kids and my kids and "my family" or "my kids" and I couldn't care less. I am not the least bit threatened by that kind of thing.
I post nothing about my skids, but that's because I don't like them and they are nasty (not KK, although lately he is having his moments, too).
OP - block her. Problem solved. Also, it seems your husband has a good handle on how to handle the BM. Follow his lead
I just figured this is the
I just figured this is the other side of the THOSE ARE NOT MY KIDS COIN.
There are some SMs out there who do not want anyone to think the SKs are theirs. Some really do not care.
There are some BMs who do not want SMs claiming their kids. Some really do not care.
perhaps, but seriously, who
perhaps, but seriously, who gives a crap?
Kids are not property to be claimed.
Your BM is showing, Disney }:)
LOLOLOL I have to admit, I am
LOLOLOL
I have to admit, I am (or was)THAT mom at times.
I think that you did nothing
I think that you did nothing wrong in referring to kids as "my girls". If you had them on vacation as a family then in that particular instance they WERE your girls. As long as your SDs and DH are on board with your thinking then kodos to you!
BM had nothing to do with the situation therefore her opinion is of no value. Bio-parents who are so insecure that they cannot handle more than one female parent figure in their kid's lives need help.
Some people here believe that step parents should not think to offer opinions, help, or any form of participation with the Skids. Is that right? Maybe in some situations but not in all. Each step family has it's own dynamic and it's up to us as step parents to figure out and find our place. Whether it is disengagement or an active part in the stepkid's lives, as long as it works for your family dynamic who care what others think.
As long as your stepdaughters are receptive to how you view them...I would not change a thing.
Pretty much what WalkOnBy
Pretty much what WalkOnBy said. Sometimes I do the same but I raise SS14 365 days per year. His mum lives in another .country and her entire contribution to 'help' raise her own son is a 5 minute video call per week. I am his mother role/role model/figure/whatever label suits. Even when I'm not as involved I'm still 100% more involved than BM2 will ever be.
On the other side of the coin, my exH now has a fiancée that is absolutely, hands down BRILLIANT with my BS16. And I am thankful every day for her and how well she treats my son. If she ever posts or refers to my BS16 as her boy or son or family then go for it. I know I'm his mother and it's not a threat or a challenge and I am truly grateful she's in his life.
So, in summary...ignore the whore
oh but cooookies you are far
oh but cooookies you are far more to your ss than that.... }:) }:) }:)
So wrong on so many levels
So wrong on so many levels :sick:
Oh you evil woman . There
Oh you evil woman }:) . There just isn't enough brain bleach on the planet...
Block her. I've got nieces,
Block her.
I've got nieces, daughters of friends, great-nieces, and neighbor kids who are "my girls." So what.
Occasionally I refer to my skids as "our kids." A complete genealogical chart is not appropriate in every situation.
Once in awhile a waitress will turn and ask, "and for mom?" Even my teen sd who hates me doesn't bother to correct her.
Right? when my kids were
Right? when my kids were younger, I often referred to their friends as my "troop" or my "team."
Did any of their mothers go off the nut thinking I was claiming their kids? NOPE.
correct! But I was just as
correct!
But I was just as (not) related to them as I am to my skids
I stll call my DDs 2 BFFs my
I stll call my DDs 2 BFFs my daughters, and they are all 26. The other 2 Mothers did the same. Didn't mean squat except that we were fond of the girls and all helped to get them thru those wonderful teen years.
DW always says "our" girls,
DW always says "our" girls, and when you back me into a corner and the welfare of my SD's are at risk, they are "MY GIRLS", I have taken care of them for the majority of their lives, and it might not say so on paper but it's true.
( When I'm ticked at them they are "Her Kids" lol )
Humans aren't to be owned,
Humans aren't to be owned, they are to be loved so the more people that love your kids I would say the better off your kids will be. BM that get jealous about stupid little things like you are posting about need to step it up or they wouldn't be worried. I had step moms and I know that no matter what they did or how much I loved them they could never be or replace my mother.
We often see step parents on here questioning why kids still love their parent even when they know that parent is a loser and this is the same point. No matter how shit*ty your parent is OR how great your step parent is they can NEVER replace your own parent. IMHO a parent should be more secure in their role with their child instead of causing crap over their own insecurities.
"the more people that love
"the more people that love your kids I would say the better off your kids will be"
I say this all the time. My kids and my skids know it and agree with it. It isn't about boundaries or pissing contests or being insecure. If someone loves you, they want the best for you, they look out for you and they take care of you.
What Mother doesn't want that for her children?
@roadless- "or she can change
@roadless- "or she can change her way of presenting the relationship in an order to appease a BM's feelings (knowing that there may not be anything that ever appeases BM)." GREAT POINT!!!
I live my life to please me, living life to please others gets old real fast. Oh and I don't answer to anyone including BM so maybe that is why I would let her issue with my wording slide down my back sides crack.
And let's not forget if BM wasn't a FB stalker this would be a non issue- OP needs to block her ASAP.
Cant say I dont blame her for
Cant say I dont blame her for being furious.
Its the only way she can
Its the only way she can exert control. It makes them feel powerful and that she is over you in 1 area, her kids.
I've been with DSO for 10.5 years. He and BM split up a little over 11 years ago. BM moved in a guy and DSO filed for divorce. BM lost custody 6.5 years ago when she punched SD in the face.
She actually put on facebook a few weeks ago 'what man picks his piece of ass over his own kid'. SS17, in 5 days, lives with BM, long story. SS wanted to come spend the nite with DSO during the week and my gson13 was there so I could help him with homework. I won't allow SS and Gson to be together bc SS has violent issues and has bullied Gson for years.
In a world where people are
In a world where people are calm, sane, rational and pleasant to start with... your BM is bonkers. Actually, probably in all worlds. But that being said, if that kind of stuff bothers her, block her so she doesn't have to see it. I know you didn't intend to claim 'ownership' of the girls, but your BM interpreted it that way - which says a lot about her mindset towards her children. And so block her.
They are just words. BM's
They are just words. BM's insecurity as her mom is why she reacted the way she did to that post. If you didn't intentionally mean to offend then you owe BM nothing. Ignore the Whore and block her. Don't just not be friends, be proactive and block her and any family memeber of hers or DH that would share your information. She can't see your profile if she's blocked. Some BMs, like my SS's mom, go out of their way lurking to get their feelings hurt just so they can throw a fit and get some attention. Ignore it. You know who she is, you know who you are and her daughter know each role you both play in her life. BM can worry about her own perspective and no amount of "Sorrys" or "Get over its" is going to make her actually get over it so stop playing the game. You can either stop posting pictures or stop caring what BM thinks about said pictures. I do the latter. I don't give a f^ck what BM has to say about my life or the things I choose to share on social media because her feelings aren't my problem and I don't live my life to please her--that being said I don't go out of my way to oftend either. I'm not posting selfies with SS tagging him "my boy" but if I have a great pic of SS with BS (and there are many) I post them and tag DH (BM can see DHs stuff but not mine).
BM here HATES it when I call
BM here HATES it when I call myself the skids stepmom. Her rational is that I didn't raise the skids (they were 18 and 15 when I met them) and so I am in no way shape or form a parent figure.
Which is true. However, it's a label, it's a way for everyone to know where we fit in our family.
I don't care what BM thinks and call myself stepmom all the time. Occasionally I'll get a message on FB telling me to stop overstepping boundaries and that I'm Not their stepmom but I just ignore her.
I'm sure the skids get an earful from her but since they are adults SD(27), SS(25) and we have a good relationship she can rant at them all she wants.
When we are out, they introduce me as stepmom.
I was an extremely successful
I was an extremely successful professional woman with an MBA from a top business school by 30. This was 40 years ago when most of my friends did not have careers.
Many of my friends with daughters went out of their way to have their daughters spend time with me. I used to have them for overnights, etc. I loved that they shared their children with this childless woman. And they loved that their daughters had a professional role model in their lives. And some of these were divorced women.
I'm so glad that they were not so possessive and insecure that they went bat sh*t crazy over their children having another woman in their life.
Believe me - children know who their mother is. There is no usurping the bio mother unless it is a totally off the wall case like BSGOINON's SS and his meth whore mom.
No matter how much fun I had with these children - the children, their mothers and I always knew that Mom ruled. I think it's shallow for a parent to not want others to care for their child. It's better than having people who hate the kid.
I don't think I would contact
I don't think I would contact the BM that way
She is clearly the one with the problem, obviously insecure and competitive, so I would just leave it be
As far as calling your skids your kids, this was exactly what my own SF did when I was growing up. He referred to my sisters and I as "his girls" and we while we loved it, my bio dad would go off the deep end over that
From my father's stand point, my Mom cheated on him and left him, and was trying to replace him as our father with her new husband. And he was right. But my SF was not trying to cause an issue by referring to us as his girls, it was simply his way of communicating that we were his kids/step-kids, didn't matter to him we were family and WE mattered to him. Much like you think of your skids
So not sure if your referring to your skids as your kids is adding to the problem or not, but I would think if BM2 were a good Mom she would be pleased that you were caring for her children and that would matter most.
How do your kids feel about it?
I ask because not only did my own father not like my SF having anything to do with raising any of us, but my step-sister was also pretty resentful of my SF calling us "his girls" and his involvement in our lives. To this day my step-sister says that her father was a much better SF to us, then father to her
I'm not sure if my response helps you...I just thought maybe offering some insight from another angle might help
Really...."eye roll"....the
Really...."eye roll"....the BM needs to get a life and stop stalking her ex's life on FB. The BM must have some huge insecurities to ge so upset about something so trivial. Who gives a rats a$$ if she said "my girls" . A normal person would be happy someone loves and adores their kid.
Exactly.
Exactly.