He chose me...but will now be made to suffer for it by his family.
I have been with my boyfriend for nearly a year and so a few weeks ago the inevitable 'where to do Christmas' conversation came up. We are quite lucky in that his family are and always have been Christmas Eve people, whereas my family are Christmas day people. Initially the plan was for us both to spend Christmas Eve at his parents and his daughter would come up to visit as well. Then I would go down to my family for Christmas day while he spent time with his daughter. He was invited to come to my family but we are pretty easy going and I didn't mind that he wasn't coming down - as the plans were next year he would come down for Christmas day.
Anyway about a week ago his daughter said she could only come for Christmas Eve daytime, as she had other stuff to do in the eveneing and Christmas day etc. My boyfriend has to work Christmas Eve until 5pm ish so wouldn't have got to see her, so it was pretty much agreed that he would now come down to visit my family on Christmas day with me.
Fast forward to Saturday just gone, the daughter decides that she is coming up after all and will be spending Christmas Eve and Christmas day up with the grandparents, and also the BM will be coming up and staying. My boyfriend phones the BM and says that is fine with him and his parents but now he has other plans for Christmas day so will only be able to spend time with his daughter on Christmas Eve as we are leaving early the next morning to get to my family. Apparently the BM was ok with this....
A few minutes later he gets a text from his daughter basically going off on one, how she hasn't spent Christmas with him in 10 years (they have spent every Christmas eve since the relationship breakup, 15 years ago, with the daughter the BM and her new husband spending time at the grandparents with my boyfriend. then the BM, her husband and the daughter would go back home for Christmas day), how she never wants to speak to him again and how she 'hopes I'm worth it'.
I told him that if it hepls keep the peace he doesn't have to come down with me on Christmas day as my family would understand. He thinks about it and about an hour later he says he's decided he is not going to reward that sort of manipulative, entitled behaviour and not only will he still be coming down with me on Christmas day but he is going to phone the BM to tell her that this stunt won't work and tell the duaghter off for being an ungrateful brat (his words).
Before he phones the BM he phones his Mum to let her know the stunt his daughter is playing, but the daughter has already spoken to his Mum and playing the martyr has said they won't be coming up till Christmas day - basically so that she can still collect her presents but not have to deal with her father's wrath. Anyway, Grandmother has taken grandaughter's side - how can boyfriend be so mean, oh woe is grandaughter, she has such a hard life with her parents broken up.
This is the first time boyfriend has ever taken a girlfriend home for Christmas Eve as it has never been serious enough before for him to want it to impinge on family time with his daughter, but we are planning on moving in together so this time he thought it was important for his daughter and family to spend time with the woman he is going to be spending the rest of his life with.
So while I am happy he saw through her manipulations and chose to keep our plans, I am worried that I will be made to look like the bad one in all of this, because although the grandparents know the grandaughter is a manipulative brat they overlook it and let her get away with anything.
She is 17. Boyfriend and BM
She is 17. Boyfriend and BM split when she was about two, although he continued to live under the same roof for several years - they had a big house and could pretty much live separate lives. He moved out when she moved in her new bf (now husband).
Be aware. My husband chose me
Be aware. My husband chose me too BEFORE we got married. Afterwards, all that changed.
Stay well out of it. You've
Stay well out of it.
You've offered your boyfriend an out, now let it be. This is his relationship with his daughter and his relationship with his mother. If you are planning to spend your life with this man then you should be able to trust his decisions. Don't keep on about it
There are so many of us on here who made the decision to Sacrifice what we wanted to make things easier for our husbands. Big mistake. Just let him sort this out his way. Getting involved in this will end badly. Allow him to
Decide what he wants to do.
You and I could be the same
You and I could be the same person!
My DH had some loosey goosey boundaries when we met. With BM he was strict, but SD walked all over him, she was 8 when we met. Her BM let her make all kinds of decisions and had given her elevated adult status- at 8!!
DH had/has EOWE and it was sporadic at times because BM would manipulate SD and DH would back down in order to keep the peace. I came along and all of a sudden- consistency was key and I'm a planner who likes to keep a schedule. BM would demand that DH drop everything, pick up SD and he would.... Before me... ( he would also back down when it was his visitation, if BM had made 'plans' for SD on HIS time)
The first time it happened was adjacent to a holiday weekend, that we decided to go on a vacation. It was planned 3-4 months out, about 12 of us, and it affected 1 day of visitation. ONE DAY. DH spoke to BM, told her about it (it was a major bday for me) and said that his parents could still pick up SD, as they love spending time with her. BM said no- no problem just pick her up when you return. One week before our vacation, all hell broke loose, because now BM and SD started spewing that he didn't care about SD and that this holiday was 'family time', but he was choosing to go away with me. Ummm- we were home for the 'actual' holiday... SD had made other plans!!!!!
This has been the norm for 5 years. SD is now 14... (so much fun! }:) ) It is VERY hard for DH but he has made our marriage a focus and SD knows she doesn't have a say in it. TRUST ME- she has tried and with BM's help it has made for some very trying and chaotic times. Our difference is that DH's family is supportive. Don't get me wrong- they roll out the red carpet and reward very shitty behaviour from SD, but DH will not take any kind of disrespect to me.
draco has a great blog series
draco has a great blog series from april/may of this yesr about the Sun Tzu's Art of War. it's helped me with some insightes!
specifically for you i was thinking of lesson 8.... "Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness." and also part 5, about direct versus indirect manuvers. good read!
Thanks for the heads up re
Thanks for the heads up re the blog entries, will find them and have a read
Boy I really feel for
Boy I really feel for you!
Does this kid think that everyone should have just dropped all their plans because she decided last minute to change HERS?!
I would have suggested inviting her along to see your family but not after the fit she threw....your DH is right, best not to cater to that. Or in fact acknowledge it all
Yes she will probably try to make you pay
she sounds like a mini-wife thwarted who clearly thinks its a competition between you and her