BM... She does not care ONE BIT about SS's emotional well being. I hate her.
I seriously HATE her.
She KNOWS she can't see SS without her dad there. This isn't new.
Yesterday she mentioned mothers day. She told SS "I want to see you on Mother's Day". SS didn't respond to her text, because he had a friend over. He had already planned to call his grandpa to ask if he would help him see her for an hour or so either on mothers day, or around that time. He hadn't made the call yet, but we had already had the conversation and he said he would make the arrangements. So DH and I didn't worry about it. BM hadn't mentioned it so we weren't THAT concerned.
When SS didn't respond after about 2 hours, BM decided to "take matters in to her own hands". Apparently she just "forgets" that she isn't allowed to just come and get him. Oh, and that she doesn't even OWN a car. But that's beside the point. She knows she can't just come and get him. Anyway, she sends DH a text saying that "Sunday is mothers day, SS will be with me. Should I pick him up Saturday or Sunday" DH responded "negative". Yeah, he probably should have said something more like "SS will be contacting your dad to make arrangements". But... it pissed him off that she started barking orders. SS has made it clear that he only wants to spend an hour or so with her. She doesn't get to dictate this stuff. She replies that she will be on our door step with the sheriff to take him. What she didn't realize, is that SS was sitting right next to DH when that text came through. He's almost 14, he knows that his mom just threatened to call the cops on his dad. He also knows that his mom... has no legal ground to do so. And that everything is at HIS request.
SS calls BM, and just lays in to her "why would you threaten to call the cops on my dad? That's just stupid, you know you can't pick me up". She lays on the sob story about how it's Mother's Day and he should be with her. He tells her Yeah, I planned on spending SOME time with you, I just haven't had time to call grandpa yet. She was yelling at him so loud he was in his room with the door shut and I was down the hall in the living room and I could hear HER, she was not on speaker phone. Finally he starts raising his voice back. Then I hear him say "Respect? You have been screaming at me for 20 minutes". So... he reminds her that she can't just call the shots, his grandpa has to be there, and he gets to decided how long the visit is. Somewhere in there she mentioned something about grad tickets. He said "you haven't even ASKED me for one. Why would you go in to my school trying to DEMAND one?". I don't know what the outcome of that was. I haven't asked him yet.
So after a few they calm down and SS says "one more thing, I do NOT want METH MAN THERE"... Oh my gosh. She started screaming at him.. WHY??? WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO SEE HIM??? HE'S CHANGED". SS says yeah, I've heard that before and then the next day you were breaking up again and then he has "changed" again and then you are breaking up again. I hate him, I've always hated him, and I don't want him around. They fought for another 15 minutes about that. Then... SS shut down. "Yup, yup, yup, fine."
He hangs up and calls his grandpa. Asked to help with him seeing her for mothers day. Of course gpa says yes. (even though the last time they helped they said they wouldn't be doing that again for a while). They decide on breakfast for mothers day. A short visit. He hangs up with gpa and never calls BM back. A few hours later we get another text from BM (to DH) with some article about "non custodial parents kidnapping children" with a text saying that "she has a plan". I am not sure if she was threatening to kidnap him, or if she was saying that DH is kidnapping him by not letting her pick him up. So now, I am freaking out.
I hate her.
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OMG I hate her for you. Your
OMG I hate her for you. Your DH needs to get the law involved. I feel so bad for that kid. I am so glad he has a wonder step mom like you!!!!
I don't know how to get the
I don't know how to get the law involved if she hasn't actually tried to take him.
I know there's supervised
I know there's supervised visitation, but is your DH required to allow any visitation under the CO? With a threat of NCP kidnapping, there's no way on earth I'd be letting him out of my sight, supervised or not!
The new court paperwork says
The new court paperwork says that DH has fully legal and physical custody and that visitation with BM is at SS's request with Grandpa there to supervise. The school has a copy of it.
I'm with nengooseus!
I'm with nengooseus!
Well, I had to send him to
Well, I had to send him to school. Other than that he's going to be glued to my side.
I meant for Mother's Day.
I meant for Mother's Day. (And thought that's what nengooseus meant, too.)
There is nothing specific.
There is nothing specific. Just that.
That is *exactly* what I
That is *exactly* what I meant. Thanks for the assist, Aniki!
Do you think she would really
Do you think she would really try to take him? I think it would be hard to take a 14yr old that doesn't want to go unless she somehow sedated him.
SS has told me that he would
SS has told me that he would never "let" her kidnap him. He's stronger than her, but he isn't stronger than her stupid meth addict boyfriend. That is what scares me. I am afraid they are going to show up at our door or try to take him from school.
Oh shit no! The second my DH
Oh shit no! The second my DH received that kidnapping tidbit I would have nixed that Mother's Day brunch! I get that her dad and stepmom will be there to facilitate but those are the same people that mentioned Graduation tickets to her even after they were told not too. This post gives me high anxiety. I am sad that he still wants to see her even after she yelled at him for the most part during their conversation. Just shows she's dysfunctional, doesn't know how to communicate with even her own son and theres a lot of tension there. Did your DH text her back after he kidnapping text? I have a feeling she sent it to him by accident and she meant it for someone else. He should have asked "do you, the non custodial parent, plan on kidnapping our son?" I would also tell SS about that little text so he will be on guard for any of her games. He's smart enough to jump ship if he feels she is acting weird.
I am freaking out. And... DH
I am freaking out. And... DH leaves town on a work trip tomorrow.
I just said this same thing
I just said this same thing to DH. He's going to find out.
Let us know what they say!
Let us know what they say! Have you talked to your SS about the threat? I think he should be clued in on to why his mother's day breakfast might be cancelled. Maybe you should tag along for brunch if SS is insistent on it just to make sure. What was the link she sent? Was it a detailed kidnapping of another kid from school?
We have not told SS about
We have not told SS about it... yet. DH and I will talk to him about it tonight. It didn't really click that maybe she is saying SHE is kidnapping him. At first it was read as though she is saying that WE are kidnapping him.
It was a screen shot of something she found on some family attorney website. It just says that "kidnapping charges possible through visitation disputes". And it talks about how some non custodial parents just keep the kids when they feel like they are owed "make up time" with the child.
I totally read this as her
I totally read this as her putting you on notice that she will take him.
Yes. she is that stupid as to telegraph her intentions.
I would call Grandpa and let him know that the breakfast is off.
I did call grandma and let
I did call grandma and let her know what was going on. Her words "do NOT let her see him alone". Well thanks grandma, we didn't plan on it. We need to talk to SS first, or that will get back to BM before she gets angry and starts blowing up SS's phone.
Honey I love you, but your
Honey I love you, but your husband needs to be tougher with her. She is nuts and to send that text about kidnapping is scary. He needs to do something about it not ignore it.
OH, I don't disagree with you
OH, I don't disagree with you at all.
I have spoken to the school.
I have spoken to the school.
I will encourage DH to go to the sheriffs station.
Could you talk to the sheriff
Could you talk to the sheriff or the non emergency police line? She can't just threaten to take him and that not be some sort of crime like causing harm to a minor.
Could you talk to the sheriff
Could you talk to the sheriff or the non emergency police line? She can't just threaten to take him and that not be some sort of crime like causing harm to a minor.
OK, so your DH has full
OK, so your DH has full physical and legal custody, so he's fully within his rights to cancel this visit. She could petition the court to modify, but my guess is that a written threat to kidnap would make a judge very unlikely to change anything at this time.
I am not sure if she was
I am not sure if she was threatening to kidnap him, or if she was saying that DH is kidnapping him by not letting her pick him up.
Your DH is the one with custody, now, so she is definitely referring to herself as the non-custodial, kidnapping parent.
Since she "has a plan", my new plan would be that she no more contact with SS.
She is just digging herself deeper and deeper.
SS dealing with just her is one thing but that meth head guy....
She has never really
She has never really "recognized" the revised CO as "real" I guess you can say. She still acts like she has 50% custody. She is delusional and REALLY STUPID. So honestly, I don't know what she is trying to say, but I don't want to take any chances either.