I just saw this on fb...
Very sad situation, I looked up the mother on fb, looks like she had remarried and had a step-daughter also. you know never what people are going through.
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2016/06/woman_who_killed_chi...
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Absolutely. And the "people
Absolutely. And the "people who knew them" in the comments...animals. People claiming she wanted to take the kids from him because he drank all the time. Well, wouldn't that have been mentioned in the court papers?
Yes, sadly, it does sound to me like a dad who filed to get more time with his kids because BM kept witholding them and a BM who said "screw you, they're MY kids and I want more money, too!"
This breaks my heart. I
This breaks my heart. I don't understand in what warped reality you decide the best thing to do is to kill your own beautiful child. Isn't mother's instinct to protect? I will never understand this. Those poor babies.
The ultimate example of
The ultimate example of hating the ex more than you love your kids.
This the only way that she
This the only way that she could ensure he wouldn't get any time with his kids.
Being a SM has made me totally jaded...
something similar happened
something similar happened last year very close to my house. we pass the location it happened every time we leave or go home. so senseless...
I think that a lot of parents
I think that a lot of parents embroiled in custody battles just don't see their kids as individuals but as extensions of themselves or prizes to be won along with the house and the car and the stuff from pottery barn. It's not a contest. Our jobs are to raise our children with the tools to become happy, self-reliant productive adults. She stole their very lives! She robbed a father of his children and grandparents of their grandchildren and classmates of their friend. This is horrible.
I don't think it's unique to
I don't think it's unique to parents embroiled in custody battles - plenty of parents who simply dislike their X more than they love their kids see their kids as extensions of themselves and prizes to be won.
So sad...
You're right. ):
You're right. ):
it's so sad, it really is,
it's so sad, it really is, and it seems like it's the kids who pay the price, regardless of the form that price takes.
As a mother, it infuriates me.
There was probably a note.
There was probably a note. Having worked at a police department, there is no way they could have said that unless they had mounds of evidence to substantiate it.
Maybe oven was turned on,
Maybe oven was turned on, maybe she made them drink poison koolaid.. on and on. Don't need to be signs of injury to prove murder.
I read that the father was at his house, where he lived right around the corner so that he could be close to his kids.
Honestly, the situation
Honestly, the situation described in the story looks so much like the stuff people here deal with, including me. It's scary to think that there are people in the world who genuinely care so little about their children that they will use them as weapons against their ex in any way that they possibly can, including killing them.
This happens more often than
This happens more often than you know. It's usually hushed up. Obituaries will state " died suddenly" or "unexpectedly" rather than the truth.
My cousin lost his two children this way over 20 years ago. His ex was a drug addict. He left her and won custody. Judge wouldn't let her have custody until she cleaned up but she had visitation. Instead she placed her babies in the car with her during her visitation and killed them and herself from the exhaust. The babies were only around 2 and 3 years old. Apparently it was rumoured that she had said if she couldn't have them, he couldn't either.
Makes me wonder how many other BM's would do this if they lost custody. It sends a chill up my spine.
what Echo said.... As most of
what Echo said....
As most of us here know, some with mental illnesses are very skilled at keeping it all together in public...
If she had mental issues then
If she had mental issues then surely her exdh would have used that against her in court.
I have no way of knowing, but
I have no way of knowing, but my gut tells me she didn't have a mental disorder. But, let's say that she did, then SHOULD she have had sole custody? Nope.....
The pleadings that the article quotes sound an awful lot like the crap Medusa used to spew.
*yawn*
If there wasn't a psych
If there wasn't a psych evaluation, there's a high likelihood that there wasn't a diagnosis, and disorders like narcissistic personality disorder aren't always diagnosed, anyway. And she could have had strong tendencies without being clinically diagnosed, too.
There is a possibility of all
There is a possibility of all of those things but I am 99% positive her DH would have nailed her with those things when they divorced.
Not nessarily. Men are
Not nessarily. Men are notorious for ignoring BM behaviour and just hoping it goes away.
He may have felt like many DHs we hear about on here that they don't want to anger her or upset her because then they won't get to see the kids.
He may have been afraid that she'd do exactly what she did and so he said nothing. I'm wondering if he thought now was a good time to adjust things because she'd just gotten married and seemed stable.
Or maybe he has someone new in his life who was pushing him to change the CO and CS.
I know I pushed my DH to change things and he was apprehensive because while she's never been diagnosed with anything, she's a narcissist. He never had a name for it but the whole family has stories about her crazy shit.
I agree that she had mental
I agree that she had mental issues but I think it had a lot to do with her ex. Maybe she was tired of the battle with him and the constant court battles. But yeah i think it had to do with him.
sounds like a typical BM, if
sounds like a typical BM, if you ask me...
"The custody battle began in March of last year, when House sought a modification of their arrangement because, he argued, his ex-wife "intermittently used the current schedule as a weapon against (him)" to deny him equal time with the children.
House also sought a decrease in his child support obligations, citing a "material change in circumstance."
In her answer to the petition, Foster argued that, due to her ex-husband's frequent travel for work, she had custody of the children significantly more than 50 percent of the time.
"Until the filing of his petition, the father has never asked for additional time with the children, and, in fact, he relies on the mother's flexibility to accommodate his work schedule," the document reads.
Foster sought full physical custody of the children. She also argued that her ex-husband's salary had steadily increased since their divorce and asked that the judge keep child support payments in line with his salary.
In addition, she asked that House be found in criminal contempt of their custody agreement for failing to take the children to church during his week with them and for failing to ensure that they completed their homework."
I know what you mean. And
I know what you mean.
And yeah, Medusa said shit like this, too.
"oh, you want more time with the kids? Why don't you try using the time you have!!!"
Uh - kinda hard to do that when you hide them, you fidiot!!!
New word? "fidiot", I likey!
New word? "fidiot", I likey! I will use it while conversating.
No, please do! I hope you
No, please do! I hope you find many opportunities to work it into your conversating. Lol
well in my neck of the woods,
well in my neck of the woods, we just had a vicious murder suicide a few counties over. He killed his exwife and they too had a looming custody battle. He killed his now ex girlfriend and her dad. He killed her the very date of their court hearing. They were scheduled to be in court that afternoon. He had battered her and violated a restraining order. In my experience which is a long previous career at the police department and Sheriff's office, court hearings and custody battles do trigger these events in the mentally unstable.
http://jacksonville.com/news/
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2016-05-03/story/suspect-tuesdays-cla...
We had an incident a few
We had an incident a few years ago where a woman hired her ex husband to kill her baby daddy, the day before they were to appear in family court, because she didn't want him being involved in babies life. Same thing, now she's sitting in prison, dad is dead and poor little child is left without any parents. She was actually on an episode of the show "Snapped" a couple of years ago.
I think this stuff happens wayyyyyyy more than we know. It makes me sick!
http://www.the-leader.com/article/20130725/news/130729869
What's wrong with people?
What's wrong with people? Just a few months ago a father killed his daughter and her mother because he didn't want to pay CS.
Now this nut kills herself and the children to punish dad.
Why do all of these children have to pay the ultimate price because their parents are asses????
I saw the comments....had to
I saw the comments....had to look away.
I saw a couple of posts on FB
I saw a couple of posts on FB about how the world lost a "beautiful and loving woman" she was my friend, she is gone but not forgotten.. blah blah blah. I'm sorry, I don't care if you are my BEST friend, you do something vile like this, I will NOT be defending you and putting you on a pedestal. GAH>> it makes me sick.
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She is Mormon. That is a VERY
She is Mormon. That is a VERY typical all picture for a Mormon family.
but why only herself and her
but why only herself and her kids?
She was recently remarried and it looks like her new husband had a daughter....
new husband with daughter is
new husband with daughter is enough to drive you crazy.
new husband with daughter is
new husband with daughter is enough to drive you crazy.
I was thinking that, too,
I was thinking that, too, since the three names made me think that it was her first name, her maiden name and her new last name...
did anyone besides me notice
did anyone besides me notice that the little boy was named David Danger and some of the commenters refer to him as Danger???
Who calls their kid Danger???
It is absolutely heartbreaking...
looking at her FB page, which
looking at her FB page, which I know is no measure at all, she looks like a totally normal human. Remarried - looks like she was a SM, too - selling her home, taking digs publicly at her ex-husband......
I think it was the ultimate act of taking them away from him.
Mormon or not. Mental illness or not.
Just horrible.
Lol. I am not Mormon but I
Lol. I am not Mormon but I was born and raised in Utah. My pops was a bishop and stake pres. First I have ever heard of a stairway to heaven.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Agree!
Agree!
When DH was going through his
When DH was going through his court battle to not only get the parenting time he had enforced, but also to get more parenting time, very strange things started happening to my car and my home.
Medusa lives over two hours away from us, but I had three flat tires, two broken windows, and a dead mouse stuffed through my mail slot all in the span of about six months. Coincidence? Hardly.
One night, baby voice woke up and came upstairs into our bedroom to tell us that she heard a noise outside and swore to God that she saw her mother through baby voice's bedroom window.
Of course, we told her it was probably just a bad dream, but I have no doubt that that bitch was outside my house.
The day after that, I applied for a concealed carry permit, bought a handgun and learned how to use it.
damn wob. what. a. FREAK.
:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
damn wob. what. a. FREAK.
DH's 2nd wife is bat sh*t
DH's 2nd wife is bat sh*t GUBM crazy. She tried to get DH to plant drugs in her ex's home (he of course did not do it). They spend years going through court cases. She reported him to IRS and did enough awful stuff that she actually lost custody.
Thank goodness DH refused to have children with her (he'd been snipped).
To this day DH has me keep all assets in my name. He's still afraid (more than a decade later) that she will try to do something awful financially. Especially if she ever figures out that we are way better off than she is. After her divorce from DH she went back to the ex she'd fought with for 15+ years.
I would not be surprised at ANYTHING she would do.