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Never been so angry in my life!

crackergirl's picture

I am shaking I am so mad. As I was leaving work early to take my son to his 8th grade 4 day field trip (Universal Studios)I got called into a meeting with the big wigs. I couldn't leave even if I wanted to (it wasn't scheduled they just showed up)as they were discussing who they can lay off. I was able to text dh that I wouldn't make it in time to finish the meeting, go home and get ds (mine not his) and drop him at the bus at school. Dh said sorry. I was able to excuse my self to the bathroom and called dh. He said no. That I would not do that for his kids and since I want each of us to care for own and not do for the other kids then he will follow suit. No amount of begging and pleading worked. He just said he had to go and hung up. Then my f@&king phone fell and went to black screen. I had no phone numbers of anyone (school wise like chaperon)! NONE! My son missed his trip yesterday and there was no way I could drive and drop him off there. When I got home to say I was livid was an understatement. Dh acted like nothing was wrong and when I said something he listed the times he desperately needed my help and I said no. He is right because I wasn't going to become the babysitter or the driver or the picker upper. I needed this one time. It's the only time I asked him to help with my kid. I really don't know what to do. Ds isn't talking to anyone and is mad/angry/sad/disappointed, you name it. I only feel fury towards dh today. He could if he wanted to take today off and drive him to his group but he said no. I just want to tear his head off!

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DaizyDuke's picture

Is your job not a job where you can say "Hey, I have a family emergency, I need to leave ASAP"? especially for an impromptu "meeting"? And I'm wondering if you have access to a computer at work, or a co worker's phone? I mean even if my phone dropped and went black at just the exact time to make this story work.... I would get to a computer and google the numbers I needed to call, and use a land line or coworker's phone to make other arrangements.

But I'm skeptical as to the validity of this story... the storm is just too perfect if you know what I mean.

crackergirl's picture

This is a new job (about a yr) and this was the first time the big wigs have shown up for me to meet them. I couldn't leave. I thought of every possible thing but if I would have asked to leave I would have had big issues with my boss. The school was already closed so calling them got me the recorded message. I don't have my neighbors cell numbers memorized so when my phone broke they were no longer an option. My family members that I called didn't get the message till it was to late. It was the perfect f@#k me in the ass sh!t storm!

crackergirl's picture

The school was already closed. The parents met the bus at the school and drop the kids off at the bus with the chaperones.

crackergirl's picture

I don't have anyones number from the school memorized. Maybe I am the stupid one for thinking I could count on my husband. Maybe I am wrong but I don't think so. I do so much for dh and I needed his help. This was for a good respectful caring kid.

crackergirl's picture

We have been arguing a lot lately about how his dd isn't going to be able to do swim team this yr because I won't drop her off on my way to work this summer. So she wants to stay with her mom who can take her (mom won't pick her up from our house, says it is our time). I refuse because that means I have to make sure she is ready to go and get her there and that isn't something i wish to do for a spoiled a$$ brat!

crackergirl's picture

Because he leaves to early. I would have to wake her up and make sure she is ready and that she ate and then take her. I know she would make me late for work and honestly I don't want to give her the satisfaction of using me. She doesn't like me and is only civil because dh makes her be. My son is not like that at all. Dh and my son have a good relationship and this has hurt my son. It shouldn't be tit for tat.

Elizabeth's picture

There is a way you could handle this without drawing such a hard line in the sand. Simply tell DH that "I will give SD a ride if and only if she is ready to go at x time when I leave the house." If she's there, you take her. If she's not, you go about your business. I did this with my SD, and that way I wasn't the bad guy. DH woke her before he left the house in the am, she was responsible for her own breakfast and preparations (she was 12+ at the time).

crackergirl's picture

I was forced to disengage because of how his kids are. I am not going to reward his dd for her bad behavior after my son was treated like this.

Cover1W's picture

This is what I do.
I pick up SD10 on my way home from work on Wednesdays since they live on my way home. DP is required to let me know she is there (sometimes she's not).

I also take SD10 part way to school on Thursday mornings. It doesn't alter my commute too much and it saves DP a TON of time that morning since he has to work early and saves $. The catch is HE has to make sure she has breakfast and HE makes sure her lunch is packed. I leave at a certain time and am always in the car by that time, she knows that I will leave without her.

My disengagement from driving and helping out is for those instances where he certainly could drive them or make arrangements. I don't make exceptions for those times he doesn't feel like it or doesn't want to get up early. Um, like I do? For YOUR kids? No.

I think maybe the OP and her husband need to sit down and get everything on the table. Renegotiate? Counselor? It doesn't just work one way.

crackergirl's picture

Thank you. I am livid. I have never been this mad and I feel like I am going to break down. My poor kid! The only reason dh did this is because I refuse to help him with his snotty bratty kids. My son is a straight A student and helpful, kind and just overall good. His are failures and rude, snotty and mean. When I did help out his kids never said thank you or appricated it so I stopped. My son would have been extremely grateful.

CompletelyPuzzled's picture

I agree. I understand that he was just giving her a taste of her own medicine, but this is extreme. The only person who got hurt in this situation is an innocent skid. What bugs me is that so many of the women on here that are cheering the dad would completely tear apart a SM who pulled the same thing.

He could have helped out this one time and just said, "you owe me one." It didn't have to be such a big deal. I don't understand some of the people on this board and their marriages. I thought marriage meant that you have each other's back. Unless there are major issues and a stepparent must disengage, this whole, "I am not helping you with your kid" idea just doesn't make sense. All I know is I would never punish SD9 like that and DH would never do that to my DS10. It is sad that the kid missed his trip.

I agree that you should have missed your meeting. As far as I am concerned, the kids always come first above my job. I would have told my boss it was an emergency and bailed.

CompletelyPuzzled's picture

dup

WokeUpABug's picture

IMHO, there is a big difference between helping in a one time emergency and being a habitual helper. I don't know your situation, but I get the impression your DH wanted to you to help on a regular basis and you said no. Now he's punishing you by refusing to help you out just this once. That's within his rights, but petty in my opinion. The question you need to answer is if the shoe was on the other foot would you have helped him?

Frankly that level of pettiness would not sit well with me. I don't think steps should routinely do childcare (unless they want to) but I also can't imagine a marriage where there is no help to the other partner at all. Where does it end? If your kid was seriously injured would he refuse to take them to the ED?

crackergirl's picture

Honesty I don't know if I would have. I am being honest. There is a world of difference between our kids. My son is a good kid where his are not. They lie and steal and are rude. I refused to pick his kid up 3 weeks ago when she was throwing up at school and he couldn't leave work. My reason for not is she would have purposely puked in my new car (2 weeks old) and not in a bag or bucket. I was home but I knew exactly what would have happened. She would miss and puke on the carpet or seats. It didn't matter because 5 minutes after I said no bm went and got her.

ksmom14's picture

I think he's validated in what he did based on this information.

The kid was SICK! not just faking sick, but full blown puking sick and you refused to help in an "emergency"

It doesn't matter if BM picked her up after you refused, you forced your DH to contact someone else to help, and that's what he did to you. It's not his fault that your phone fell and did not allow you to contact anyone else.

I was totally on your side until I read this

crackergirl's picture

She would have puked all over my new car on purpose. I would have gotten either of his boys if they had been sick just not her. She is the one I said no to because of her behavior and how nasty her attitude is. His boys aren't as bad as she is. I could trust them not to puke everywhere on purpose.

bearcub25's picture

If the BM was able to pick up sick kid, then that is what should have happened. The BM isn't SOMEONE ELSE BUT THE BIO PARENT.

zerostepdrama's picture

I'd be more concerned with DH using my son as an example to punish me. I think that is pretty crappy. I don't do for my skids (except SS) and I don't even really like them but I would never do something to purposely hurt them, to teach DH a lesson or give him a taste of his own medicine.

If I can't rely on my DH in an emergency (and him same for me) then I would be rethinking my marriage. I can do bad all on my own.

crackergirl's picture

Excatly. I needed him and he refused to help me since I won't play maid mary to his brats. Now my son suffers because his kids can't behave themselves.

Disneyfan's picture

He needed you when his kid was sick and you refused.

The fact that his timing hurt your kid doesn't matter.

crackergirl's picture

He says he wasn't trying to punish me (cause I told him he did!) that he was following my lead in how we treat each other's children. Because I do nothing for his he won't do anything for mine. I told him marriage shouldn't be like this and he said that is his point. I told him that he punished my kid and hurt both of us and he needs to apologize to my son and find a way to make this up to him and he said no. That he will tell him I set the rules and be mad at me. I can't believe this is what has come to my marriage.

Icansorelate's picture

why are you married to him? Seriously, if this is the state of your marriage, why are you there. Your son is not going to appreciate your still being married at this time.

I totally get the job/child conflicts. You made the best call you could at the time.

Is there anyway to get your son to his trip?

Icansorelate's picture

why can't you take off work now and drive your son? Seriously, I get the bossess showing up, but surely this is a normal workday? Explain to your boss, take the afternoon off and drive all night if you have to. Or put your son on a plane.

crackergirl's picture

I thought about that but no one could get him from the airport. I told my boss last night as we were leaving that I would be taking the day to drive him and he said I couldn't take the day off. He is out showing the big wigs around and I am stuck running the office. If I could leave without it costing my job I would. I 100% would. My boss is a male chauvinist who thinks women (never said it out loud) shouldn't be in this field.

zerostepdrama's picture

Exactly

And I can't imagine any boss unless it's Kim Jung-un saying NO you can't take your kid- no matter how long you have been at your job or how much of a big wig the boss was.

The very first thing I would have done when I got called into a meeting "Pleasure to meet you and attend this meeting but I should let you know right now that I have to leave at X time for already scheduled time off to take my son XYZ and then I will be right back after that."

bearcub25's picture

That's not always true.

I am in a job where someone has to be in the data center 24/7. If coworker calls off, we can't even go pick up lunch or run to Sheetz and get a candy bar. Its hard to get fired at my job, but that would definitely do it...leaving the data center unoccupied.

crackergirl's picture

My boss is an ass. Ds was packed. I asked if he had anyones number that could come get him and he said no. Most of his friends were on the 8th grade trip. This is band 8th grade trip. For whatever reason that makes no sense to me they scheduled both at the same time and 8th grade band members had to choose which trip they wanted to go on. Ds choose the band trip. There was literally no one that I could find besides dh. I didn't just think oh well. I didn't just give up. I tried.

crackergirl's picture

I guess I need to give more background. 3 months ago I got tired of being used by the stepkids. Asking me to take them places or picking them up with no please or thank yous. Just expected. They are rude and lazy and slobs. They lie and steal. Dh put his foot down each and every time and they were punished but when disney mom lives around the block (not literally) then they get away with more. Plus bm likes to tell them they don't have to listen to me and crap. So 3 months ago I disengaged. I shut it all down. I don't help or do anything for his kids. Mine and dh had a great relationship before I stepped back. Now we are arguing and fighting over all things kid related. When his kids are at bms 50% of the time our life is great. He gets along great with my son. We are happy. His kids come back and all hell breaks out. I figured we just need to find that stable ground where he does his thing with his kids and I do mine but in an emergency situation we help each other. He is using the fact I refused to pick up his dd while she was puking as an example of never helping each other. If I would have gotten her she would have puked all over my brand new car. I am 100% certain! So that is why he wouldn't take my son.

crackergirl's picture

There is though. She would purposely puke all over my car. She would 'accidentally' miss the bucket. That is how she is. I would have gotten either of his boys. They aren't as bad as she is and I told him that. I explained why and that if his boys got sick i would get them.

Disneyfan's picture

So both of you are responsible for your own kids. However, if an emergency pops up, you expect your husband to help you out with your kid. But, you have the option of not helping him with his kids when an emergency pops up??? Your husband would have to be a complete fool to allow this double standard to play out.

misSTEP's picture

If you decide to stay in this marriage, I would go on the assumption that he will not do ANYTHING for you or your son. If you have no expectations, there is no disappointment. But are you okay with that??

The difference in the situation is the skids have two parents both available. Your son only has you available since his BD is gone. Not to mention the other reasons you gave.

crackergirl's picture

I told him I would have gotten the boys just not her because I knew what she would do. Dh is only doing this because I disengaged. I had to step back from his hellions. He doesn't need to step back from my kid but if he wants to fine. It just wasn't necessary for this to happen.

bearcub25's picture

The bio mom got the kid. The bio mom should be the one to get a sick kid. Period. I've seen many on here complain bc its the BMs job to take care of the sick kid, if she has any custody.

kathc's picture

I'd have gone this route, too. Then you could hold it over his head. Yeah I like to always have an ace in my pocket, never know when it comes in handy.

BUT, hindsight and all...

BM should have been called to get her child BEFORE a SM was called for a sick child.

I think your DH is being a dick over this and should have just taken him for you--then he'd be the one with a favor to call in.

NoWireCoatHangarsEVER's picture

I'm sorry this happened to you. I am an hour and a half from Orlando. Usually , sometimes those tickets don't expire for 6 months but some have blackout dates starting like June 9 for the whole summer . I think one of the two parks is blacked out for the whole summer for those with the discounted tickets but it depends what kinda of tickets you have. Perhaps all isn't lost and you can find sometime to get him down to Universal. Sure it won't be the same cause his 8th grade buddies won't be there but it is an, in my opinion, an awesome theme park and a trip of a lifetime.

SecondGeneration's picture

I cant help but feel "you have made your bed, now you need to lie in it" that may sound incredibly harsh but when a husband and wife (or any couple) end up against one another then no one in the household is happy. When its a blended family situation it becomes a "his kids/her kids" scenario.

It sucks for both of you that you have both gotten to the point that you feel taken advantage of when one asks the other to help them, be it with the children or other things. That is not what a marriage is supposed to be.

It is a very hard lesson, but one you need to now take to heart if this is the path you continue to walk. You will need to make sure you have back up plans for important events for your son if your work is so difficult to walk out from.

Personally, given that you had already arranged to leave work early, I would have given my apologies and explained to the boss that I still needed to leave at the earlier/pre arranged time. If you hadnt formally okay'd leaving early then its ultimately your own fault and own poor planning. Yes your husband could have helped you out, but in his eyes, he has made similar requests to you and you have refused to help him, so now he feels he has to do the same.
If you want him to be fully responsible for his kids then you cant expect him to support yours, regardless.

ctnmom's picture

Why didn't you call your son a cab or Uber? You can pre pay over the phone. p.s. This marriage is doomed.

crackergirl's picture

We don't have taxi's out her in the suburbs and I never considered uber. I wish I had though. I am kicking myself. I have never used it before which is why I didn't think of it.

momjeans's picture

I'm with Sally on this one, but still have torn feelings on the situation. Like others have stated, your DH's response and behavior shouldn't come as any shock. On the other hand, I feel there should be certain circumstances that would call for a bend when it comes to disengagement. Like for instance, I'd personally not think twice about taking SK to the ER or Urgent Care. Casual non-emergency things, anything, yeah NO. This was an emergency to you - your DH just happened to not see it that way. Fair enough.

With all that said, if I were to drop $700 on a trip, I'd make damn sure I had a back-up plan lined-up for transportation if my workplace was to somehow fail to accommodate.

momof3smof2's picture

I would be incredibly angry, but I have not sent my house hold up this way. My husband and I do for each other's children. You set up the situation by refusing to do for your husband's children, but you expect him to do for your children. That's not fair

WalkOnBy's picture

I don't do anything for the skids - no driving, no shopping, no school crap. The ONE thing I MIGHT do is pick someone up or take someone somewhere if my DH is in a jam AND I am available.

I guess that makes me a fence-sitter on this one.

I will tell you this, I am completely disengaged from my skids, but my husband in completely engaged with my kids (his skids). It's not a "tit for tat" in my house, but that's because my skids are assholes to me and my kids are not assholes to DH.

Makes no sense, I know, but at least my DH understands that I have disengaged because of THEIR (and his, to a certain degree) BEHAVIOR and not because of their existence.

WalkOnBy's picture

"I can't ever imagine making any kid suffer to punish a parent though, that's why I can't understand BM or the OP's husband."

Exactly!! I would handle the crisis and then deal with any issues between me and DH.

WalkOnBy's picture

"I can't ever imagine making any kid suffer to punish a parent though, that's why I can't understand BM or the OP's husband."

Exactly!! I would handle the crisis and then deal with any issues between me and DH.

Hennypenny's picture

DH asked for help with his kid and you said no. You asked for help with your kid and he said no. You can throw out every caveat in the book but it really doesn't matter. Those are the rules and neither of you are inclined to break them.

Good news is, now you know you are both 100% disengaged so you won't look to your DH in a future emergency but will have other backups in place. Sad and costly lesson learned.

stormabruin's picture

It sucks for your son, but IMO you got exactly what you gave.

His daughter was throwing up at school. He wasn't able to get her & asked you for the favor. You refused because you're certain she would throw up in your new car on purpose, & she suffered for it.

Let me ask you this...when you've been sick & throwing up, did your mind turn to what you could do to piss somebody off? Of course not. When someone is sick to the point of vomiting, all they want is to get somewhere where they can lay down, get comfortable & rest. Nobody is feeling up to acting out when they're physically ill. The energy isn't there for it.

So, you insists all you want, but I feel just as certain otherwise. You put your foot down & refused to move. He did the very same thing.

Same actions. Unfortunately the crappy situation you set up cost you a whole lot more money.

You refuse to help with his kids, you simply cannot expect him to help with yours.

Your child wears a halo & his wear horns? I can't help but think that your claims are skewed in that respect. I guarantee you your DH's opinions differ with yours here.

FieryEscape's picture

I wouldn't pick up a hateful, untrustworthy skid either if she was puking ..... Her DH should of called BM. But let me guess , he didn't want to inconvience the kids own mom. Puke can be cleaned up....but who in their right kind would want their brand new car puked in ? There have been TONS of examples on this board of the terrible things skids do just to be vindictive .

And her DH....what a jerk. No excuse for what he did - doesn't matter what the SM had done before. His choice purposely punished a child who had done nothing wrong to him.

If I was the OP, I'd make damn sure all finances were separate and be making a plan to make him my exDH. Clearly that marriage has HUGE issues.

FieryEscape's picture

The BM, who should of been called FIRST - was available. Unless SM and skids have a great relationship, why would he expect her to pick up his sick kid from school?

So you really think it was ok for her son to miss his trip because her DH felt like "giving back to his wife, what she gave him" ?

Disneyfan's picture

Her son missed his trip because:

Mom was afraid to tell her boss she had to get her kid to the school
Mom didn't have any of the phone numbers
Mom didn't think to call Uber
Mom didn't call her son and tell him to call a friend, neighbor, grandma....
Mom didn't ask a coworker to pick her son up

You can't shit on someone then act all butt hurt when they turn around and shit on you

stormabruin's picture

It sounds like OP already has a good start on making sure everything is separate. She started with the kids.

She is the one who created this for her & her son. You cannot refuse to give & expect to take from people.

Yes, DH should've called BM, & with the hard line OP drew when he dared ask her to do a favor, she should've called a transport service when she found herself needing a favor.

K.A.R.M.A.

stormabruin's picture

She refused to be available when he expected to be able to count on her.
He refused to be available when she expected to be able to count on him.

I get that she disengaged. That was her choice. If I chose to disengage from DH's kids, I would fully expect the same in return.

You treat people the way you want to be treated. It's a pricey loss on her part, but she admitted that if it were his daughter that needed a ride for the field trip, she would likely refuse as well.

Just like picking his daughter up isn't her obligation, picking her kid up isn't his.

The $700 part sucks, but she brought it on herself.

stormabruin's picture

Yeah, OP is out $700. However, she didn't have to be. By choosing not to do anything, even yesterday after options were brought to her attention, that falls on her. Her kid missed out on a fun trip, but again, by choosing not to do anything, even yesterday after options were brought to her attention, that fall on her as well.

That said, equal damage is done where they are involved.

OP refused to be there for her DH when he asked for her help.
DH refused to be there for OP when she asked for his help.

The only difference is that DH can count on BM to back him up.

Now DH knows that when he needs someone to turn to for help or favors, BM is the one he can count on to be there.

I guess from here on out, OP can turn to Uber.

ESMOD's picture

Where is you boy's bio dad? Did you not know any of his friends or friends' parents? I can log into my yahoo acct whatever and get contact info. Verizon cell has uploaded contacts as well I think. I don't understand what big wigs show up completely unannounced. What if you had been out sick that day? It sucks that DH wouldn't help but it sounds like you have been pretty adamant about not helping with his kids either. I second the family counseling thought here.

FieryEscape's picture

Are you that close to all your co-workers ? I wouldn't ask any of mine, not that I don't get along with them - but it's just not something I'd ask. Many people commute...I work 16 miles from my office ...so that's 30 minutes in good traffic . Asking someone to go get your kid and take him to his school trip pick up is a pretty big favor to ask of a co-worker.

And not sure if I'd be comfortable putting my 8th grader in a Uber by himself either...just saying.....but I'm pretty sure Uber doesnt allow unaccompanied minors anyway.

stormabruin's picture

I've never worked for a company where big wigs just show up unannounced. Obviously they would have an agenda & would want to make sure people have prepared what they need to prepare & that everyone would be present that needed to be.

If they can be so clumsy about planning a meeting, certainly they would allow someone with pre-arranged plans to follow through on those.

twoviewpoints's picture

Why does this sooooo remind me of the member that cut her next door neighbor skids out of her 'good bio-kid' water park party (SF was paying for)?

Too bad you're not in the same area. The two of you could have perhaps been good friends and helped each other out. Smile

Disneyfan's picture

I was thinking of the poster who made (Yes, I know she didn't hold a gun to his head) her husband cut his daughter hair as a punishment :sick: then got butt hurt when her kid got scalped.

Hennypenny's picture

That one still makes me sick. Don't care if she was a troll or psycho, either way that was one messed up individual.

mommadukes2015's picture

OP, I feel a number of things about your situation.

1.) You have a career. I also have a career and it is important to me as I'm sure yours is important to you. I worked hard to get where I am and step life has a tendency to put all of that in jeopardy-and in our defense-you don't know that until you're already knee deep in it. I understand the pull and responsibility to stay to meet with the "big wigs" that showed up unexpectedly. However-parenthood carries the same risk. It's a wax and wane-squeaky wheel gets the oil-sometimes my job requires more of my attention, sometimes my kids require more of my attention-sometimes they both require my attention at the same time. You need to identify 1 or 2 "go to" people to help you when this happens-one of which should be your DH. I would work to repair what ever damage this "tit for tat" game you two are playing has done-you are married-you are partners and like it or not all of you together are a FAMILY. You also have to accept that there are times when family trumps work-flat out-walk your booty out that door and deal with the consequences later. Just remember-no one will talk about how many times you stayed for an "important meeting" at your funeral or how clean you kept your car. You sound like an intelligent woman, too intelligent for this behavior.

2.) Your step kids may not be the most respectful people, but bringing them places isn't just about them. It's about your DH too. And honestly, you're the adult in the situation, from what it sounds like you have nothing to lose. If you can drop your SD off on your way through because it's minimally inconvenient, do it. I agree, that if she's not ready by a certain time, he toosh stays behind-let that happen a few times-she'll get the message eventually. Nothing is going to get better if you and DH continue to stand there like The Zax.

3.) Your child suffered because of the BOTH of you. Your step kids suffer because of the BOTH of you. You two suffer because of the BOTH of you. Let that sink in and if you don't like it-it is in your power to change it.