SS13 Only Wants to go on the Trip if Me and DH are Paying / Learning What it Means to Earn $$
So last night was revealing. We had our talk with SS about his report card, what our expectations were moving forward and what the consequences were going to be if things were not taken care of.
Then we moved on to his 5 day school trip across the country and asked him if he thought he had earned the trip and whether he thought he deserved to go. He immediately started in with an attitude and a mocking voice saying no. His dad told him to knock it off, that we were trying to have a mature discussion with him. (Nice DH!).
We proceeded but he kept up with the attitude so we told him to go to his room. The conversation had also started one hour before the mandatory parent meeting regarding the trip.
We called him back down and asked him if he was ready to continue the discussion. We let him know that his performance in school and behavior both at school and at home did not, in our opinion, earn him the trip. We have already contributed $100 towards the trip and there was about $150 that still needed to be paid along with spending money. We asked him if he was willing to use his money to pay for the trip. (Between Christmas and BIrthday he should have had about $250). He was schocked and said "no". Then he threw a fit and said, "why do I have to pay for everything?". Then I stepped in and asked him what exactly has he EVER paid for? And reminded him of his bday money. He said he didn't have it, it was at his mom's and that she's going to open a savings account for him. (A whole entirely different blog topic in itself for a woman that has a history of stealing money from her son's room, but I digress). We asked again if he wanted to pay and he said no. Then we said, "fine, go to your room and we'll talk more later".
Again, SS goes to the room. DH and I are appalled that BM (EOWE Mom who does not participate in anything SS does, has stolen money from him in the past, who we have a restraining order against, who was absent from SS's life for 7 years and only recently showed interest when DH and I became serious - this BM) had SS bring all of his money to her house that OUR family gave him under the farce that she would open a bank account for him so he could save for a laptop.
I was appalled that SS wasn't willing to pay for the trip and that he was so quick to say no. DH was convinced that he was saying no because he knew the money was gone. So we called him back again and asked him one more time if he was willing to pay for the trip and earn money. He still said that he didn't know. We reminded him that we had a meeting to go to and there wasn't a lot of time. He said, "well, it's a hard decision to decide if you want to fly across the country or not" - of course it's a difficult decision when it's your own money, go back to your room and come down when you make your decision.
So SS comes down and says he'd like to go. We ask him how much money he had at his mom's. He says $120. We tell him he will need to earn another $30 to pay for the trip and he will need to earn money for spending money. His father and I will create a list of yard chores (and we have PLENTY) and figure out what he'll be paid but he needs to call his mom right now to get the money for the trip. ($150 was due at the meeting).
So SS calls his mom...
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And on our new phone, we can
And on our new phone, we can actually hear the entire conversation.
SS: Mom, I'm calling because I need my $120
BM: um, oh, uh. OK. What do you need it for.
SS: Well, I need the money to pay for my trip and I also need $30 more to pay the whole thing. (Nice Try SS13 - at least he asked)
BM: WEll, I can give you your money but I can't give you $30 (of course) When do you need it.
ME: ask her to bring it directly to the office on Friday when she picks you up from school.
SS and BM finalize that part.
BM: Are you OK?
SS: No
BM: Are they treating you like shit?
SS: Yes
Me and DH: OK, time to get off the phone/ Oh, I'm treating you like Shit?
phone hangs up.
WE told the school that BM will be bringing $120 to pay for the remainder of SS's portion on friday (as I was not going to chance paying in advance, etc, etc). DH told SS he needs to do 8 hours of yard work both today and tomorrow in order to earn his spending money. If he doesn't do 8 full hours each day, then that's just less spending money.
I think everyone is happy with the outcome: I get the yard cleaned up, SS gets to go on his trip, We get a 5 day break from SS.
Oh, except BM. She has to now come up with the $120 that she had of SS's.
Just curious, what happens
Just curious, what happens when BM doesn't or can't come up with SS's $120? Maybe this will be SS's "AHA!" moment when all of that hard work he did to finish paying for his trip and earn spending money is all for naught because BM stole his money. A sad scenario but possibly a learning experience for SS.
Both of these are interesting
Both of these are interesting thoughts. I'm sure she'll come up with the money. She may borrow it from her girlfriend. She always seems to have money to buy SS crap or take him to the movies, so I'm hoping this won't be an issue.
DH says he has put in 8 hours today. DH told him he'd pay him $5 an hour so that $40 he's earned so far. Tomorrow will be another $40 and he has a few more weekends to do some work so if she doesn't end up giving him his money, then he just wont' have any spending money - still a good lesson and may make him think twice before he gives BM his money next time.
Wow. BM sounds like a
Wow. BM sounds like a POS.
But 16 hours of yard work over 2 days for $30? You're kidding, right? Am I reading this wrong? I hope so because that's incredibly demanding.
Yes, BM is wonderful. But
Yes, BM is wonderful.
But no. SS actually needs $37 additional to pay for the trip itself. He is also trying to earn another $100 for spending money. I will actually be very surprised if he makes it a full 8 hours each day, but we'll see. His goal is to earn about $140 total.
And we figure if he doesn't
And we figure if he doesn't earn the full $100 for spending money, he'll live. And... he'll also have a better understanding of what it takes to actually earn money. DH is a contractor and actually does labor all day long. So it infuriates me that SS sits on his A** all day and complains after one hour of yard work when we ask all the kids to do some yard chores.
DH actually just came in the
DH actually just came in the house saying that this was a good thing for SS because he is learning how hard it is to earn money. And I agree whole heartedly.
Three hours down.