She's Blocked
After almost 2 years of nonsense, my husband has finally blocked OSD. It was hard for him to do, because he still has that glimmer of hope....
After OSD attempted to break into our home this past June, DH told her that until she made things right with me, there would be no communication. She has been trying to worm her way in ever since via texts and calls; she has ramped up her efforts of late. She has made no positive effort towards resolution and continues to lie about/bash me. The story is still deflect, lie, deny...it's time we turned the page. The final straw was when she contacted him, while we were in bed, in the early morning last weekend. I 'knew' who it was when I heard the alert; she had a habit of texting/calling early weekend mornings early in our relationship. She knew what she was doing. DH reminded her again, via text, that there would be no communication until she took positive action. That was followed with days of her bashing me to him, via text...all lies. He shares it all with me. DH has not replied. She also sicced her mother on him; I know that she is not bright, but she also knows who/what her daughter is. I will never understand how she can condone the behavior. DH blocked her as well, but not before telling her that they are partially to blame for OSD's gross behavior because of their permissive parenting. He has come a long way. In a relatively short amount of time. For this I am thankful.
I told him enough is enough. We are silly to think we can use the same methods and get different results. We need to change our methods. One can not reason with an alcoholic, nor a malignant narcissist. Blocking her was the only way to get peace. I deserve peace. He deserves peace. We deserve peace. OSD deserves what she got...no contact. She deserves a whole lot more....
As for his glimmer of hope, he can hope all he wishes but it won't change her character. My hope is that he will fully realize that sooner rather than later. I 'know' that he 'knows'.
Good for you!
I'm glad he finally has this clarity. I'm guessing the increased volume lately is due to the holidays coming up. Expect more drama.
Ugh!
She recently moved back, to our hometown, after her boyfriend (who supported her) dumped her. DH thought that was why she had ramped up her efforts.
Interesting thought.... The holidays! I had not thought of that. I understand what you are saying about drama, but I am not sure how she will contact him? Mail? Attempting to break into our home again? In the event that happens, the police will be called.
Have you had experience with holiday misbehavior? The usual drama or something else entirely? I am intrested in hearing. This is still new to me. I like to arm myself with knowledge. Thank you.
Not exactly misbehavior
We haven't had the level of misbehavior you've had unless you count the chronic thievery by SD63. Of course, she's had the continual bad judgement with the debt, police incidents, family drama, emotional breakdowns, etc.
But every year, I see the crazy meter dial up around this time of year. I know the holidays are tough on her with her kids all maintaining their boundaries, meaning few, if any, invitations for Thanksgiving and Christmas. And, she wants to have gifts for her 3 kids and 4 gkids though she doesn't have enough to support herself and we subsidize her housing expense.
All this means we will soon be getting the crying phone calls to Daaad, both venting and angling for money. She knows we give each of our kids Christmas $ and she typically gets hers early.
In the past, we have hosted a big Christmas for all our family, including hers, of course. When she was still married, things weren't bad. Since she and her exDH#2 split, it's been rough. A few years, she was living here and it was just more of the same daily craziness. Since then, I hosted an "UnChristmas" for her and her kids, meaning no gift exchange. That allowed her to see them. The past couple years, she's hosted at her place but it's uncomfortable and the kids don't all show up. Thankfully, last year she had to cancel due to illness and everyone seemed to breathe a sigh of relief.
If I sound heartless about a suffering person, maybe I am. But I've been through such turmoil with her at holiday time that the season has been completely ruined for me and I often suffer depression in December.
You are not heartless. You've
You are not heartless. You've put up with this crap for almost 50 years. I'm 6 years in and already feeling the same way.
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It's only 2 years for me and I'm not done, I'm overdone.
Oh my goodness!
This is A LOT! You are certainly not heartless. It appears your SD has burned many bridges; many times people induce or amplify their own suffering.
I really do hope this holiday season is peaceful for you. Please say "No" to the nonsense and take care of YOU!
Congratulations. It's
Congratulations. It's ultimately sad (the whole situation), but gaining peace is to be celebrated.
Every year in late October, we began bracing ourselves for the holiday drama, driven by BM: Awful letters written by SD, yet clearly directed by BM. Then the demanding and nasty calls would ramp up. One time, BM was stupid enough to think she would call me directly and straighten me out when DH wasn't responding to her calls. LOL. SS made sure to get arrested right before Christmas. If the cult didn't get the attention they demanded, punishment came in the form of no contact from skids for Christmas. What a clusterF all of that was.
Holding our ground took the wind out of BM's sails. It really was a long term method of managing it all, and it was difficult. The worst of it stoppped over 10 years ago, but there have been skid eruptions now and then, just not big ones during the holidays (no reaction is a great tool). Their whole reason for being at times seemed to be to punish us. DH was never to remarry. <shrug>
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Does it make me bad that I am not sad? Me...I just feel relief. I am sad for DH; it has to be difficult to have a child who acts like OSD. I was surprised that he told her mother that they were partially accountable, and they had done her no favors.
Drama! Why is it a thing? You have put up with it far longer than I could. You must have the patience of a saint.
Not bad at all.
I get being sad for DH. We have never had this kind of thing to deal with regarding my SS-32. Our version is my SIL. The youngest of my bride's 3 younger sibs. We took guardianship of her when she turned 17 just after she graduated a year early from HS when my ILs signed their approval rather than requiring her to complete her last year of HS. If any kid needed that year to mature it is my SIL. Their State lowered gradation requirements as a cost savings measure. SIL had done a P2P summer in Europe after her Sophomore year of HS which gave her just enough credits to reach the decreased credit requirements so she could finish a year early with parental approval. My DW begged her parents not to sign. Sadly, their standard position has always been that they raise their kids to make their own decisions and to be adults. Something that they failed catastrophically at with 3 of their 4 kids. DW is their eldest and the only one who has had success in her adult life. #2 and #3 are hard working and at least not crooks like #4 is.
We brought SIL to live with us at the start of her first semester of University. The deal was we took guardianship, she would be a part of our family, we would pay for her University, we bought a car for her use, she would watch our kid after school (he was 12), did our lawn, and kept the house picked up. That was a rough year. We did not tolerate her missing classes, we did not tolerate her doing crap academic work. She did not like being held accountable for being a good steward of our money.
After a year of school and turning 18, she ran home. Since then, she has stolen $Tens of Thousands from family, borrowed over $100K in school loans for a degree she never finished, has been terminated from nearly every employer within commute distance because she is smarter than everyone and cries that they terminate her for attendance but it isn't her fault because... you know... the kids, and is a toxic lying thief. Her eternal mantra is "I'm spe,,,,,cial." in a whiny baby voice. I nearly blow chunks from the instant nausea when she goes into that crap.
It breaks my bride's heart that her baby sister is such a POS. DW is thi executor for their Aunt's estate. SILs largest thievery victim to the tune of the high multiple $5figures. As executor DW will have to sue her sister to recover assets from her sister for the rest of the heirs. To avoid that, DW worked with the Aunt to state that SIL gets nothing from the estate if her share is less than what she has stolen and that the estate will sue her to recover the stolen assets for the other heirs if what she has stolen is more than her share of the estate.
This may prevent DW from having to sue her sister on behalf of the estate.
I feel for my wife in all of this. Though I am not sad about my SIL's crap other than that Karma has not come calling yet.
Drama is the effluent that ship people wallow in. We can use that effluent and the drama to write them off, force their noses into the stench they stain their own life carpet with, and highlight how completely superior our life of quality is in comparison to their nasty existence.
By living well we set the example that they can model if they choose. That choice is on them other than our choice to not tolerate their noxious crap if they choose to remain committed to it.
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I really had no idea there were so many dysfunctional people running loose. I can see why your DW would feel the pain of disappointment, however it appears you two have tried to help and be a positive influence. Sometimes that is all one can do.
I am not invested like your DW. There is no blood relation. No ties of any kind. This is all on OSD. I can hold my head high knowing that I have responded far kinder than she ever deserved. Never has an unkind word escaped my lips when responding to her nonsense. I know people have issues and behave badly; what makes this situation different for me is that the hatred is directed at me...for no apparent reason, other than I married her father. Her lies and hatred have a trickle down effect when she spreads them to family, friends, and as my DH says, "anyone who will listen". That nonsense has the potential to damage my reputation! I am so resentful because I didn't create this, I can't fix this, and I want no part of this! I have been thrust into this ugliness against my will. Thank goodness he has finally shut down what comes our way; though I have no doubt that others are hearing an onslaught of more ugliness.
Never forget that idiots do
Never forget that idiots do not need a reason for anything they do. After all, they are idiots.
I am so sorry that you have had to live this in your blended family marriage. Though I cannot imagine the hell, "blood" and mayhem that would have befallen me if I had treated my father's wife as your SD treats you. Why hasn't your DH ripped out her eyes and pissed on her idiot brain? Figuratively of course.
We would not have survived childhood had be we pulled something like your SD does and if we did it as adults, it would have been far worse. Dad would roll anyone and everyone we tried to pull into our idiot cosprosperity sphere into his come to Jesus campaign and they would either apply their foot to our asses or they would have been destroyed along with us.
Not that this was or is a thing for us. Mom and dad are Unicorn parents and a Unicorn couple.
My SIL interestingly has never attempted to include us in her thief money grab crap. She knows damned well we will not come running to her tears, whines, and "my kids are starving" bullshit. Her victims all buy into her crap though interestingly they are very tight lipped about it other than a very rare comment about how much she owes them or has stolen from them. Except for her/their Aunt. She is a record keeping fiend and knows to the micro-Cent how much SIL has stolen from her via credit card fraud, failing to pay for vehicles SIL has "purchased" from the Aunt, etc......
I truly am so sorry for you and infuriated at all of those who are either participating or tolerating the crap perpetrated by the idiot shit spawned OSD that you deal with.
Take care of you.
Idiots…
Yes, this behavior is definitely idiotic. It brought to mind the list, texted to DH, of ways I had wronged her. Apparently I am jealous of her. Oh my! Even her own father thought that was a joke...they all were. I am over 20 years older than OSD, and she has nothing on me. (Said with absolute confidence and certainty from an intelligent, successful, independent woman who has taken exceptional care of herself physically and mentally.) Her list was fascinating to read because it just highlighted her delusional character.
Rags, I too 100% understand not pulling this nonsense growing up, I would have gotten a beating. I think it's important to note that I have never had a desire to treat anyone poorly. I just don't understand it. I do understand that she is sick and I certainly have compassion for just about everybody, but not for her. Her attacks came out of the blue, are calculated, cunning and hateful. She is smart enough to hide her behavior. There is just no excusing it.
Yes, the people overlooking her behavior have become a write-off for me. I just can't overlook their lack of empathy, compassion, or just common caring. I will remain cordial and that is it. No more.
Just one beating? Though we never received a beating.
Just one beating? Though we never received a beating. An occasional belt to the butt but never a beating. Discipline was strictly metered but also clear, decisive, and effective... growing up. Anything from "the look", to a torturous lexture, to grounding, to hard labor punishments, to swats to the bare rump. The worst of all of them were the lectures which also included the look. Disappointing our parents was a soul wrenching choice. Mainly because of how disappointed they were. Not because of any potential consequences beyond that.
You remind me of my bride. (A)n intelligent, successful, independent woman who has taken exceptional care of herself physically and mentally.
Her family has not. She has little in common with any of them though she does want to love them. They make it hard.
She has said a number of times over the years that my parents are her mentors and far more her parents than her own parents are/were. That realization is hard for her.
Take care of yourself and keep the toxic in their place.
I do not want to be unkind to anyone either. However, when they show who they are, I have no problem making it game on and keeping a mirror firmly in their face while not tolerating their toxic stuff.
No…
...not just one. Many beatings from the time I was 6 1/2 until I left at 18. I was a good kid. High achiever. Polite. Worked hard. He beat me because he could. When I was 18, I fought back. Didn't hurt him a bit, but I did surprise him. He had a foot and 150 pounds on me, so it didn't go well for me. I didn't care. I kept getting up. I would rather die standing than live on my knees. It was a pivotal moment in my life...never again would I accept physical abuse.
I learned a lot from my dad. How not to act, but good things too. I am strong. I am resilient. The importance of kindness. To stick up for those who can't stick up for themselves. To appreciate the good things that came my way, because there is always something good.
I understand your DW's thoughts on family. You want to love them, even though they can make it so hard to do so. I have learned I am not the black sheep, I am the white one. I believe your DW is the white one too.
It is sad for our DH's, I
It is sad for our DH's, I think. I believe the situations overall are sad, or maybe a better word is pathetic. But nothing beats that feeling, like you say, of relief--and peace!
Drama: "Look at me!" is a typical narcissist/borderline personality disorder move. The drama also serves as a form of purposeful punishment. In our case, it felt like, "You need to prove where your loyalties REALLY lie." Bad move on their part.
I never would have tolerated the drama for years, and no one is a saint for tolerating all of that BS. Two years in, we separated, as DH was not handling the situation (granted, he didn't know what to do and was totally blindsided, but I had not signed up for any of what was going on). Marriage counseling and moving forward led to closing the door on BM, which led to (more) tantrums and fits from her, but we held steady. It was difficult. She tried to slither in a few times over the next few years but was not successful. We gave the skids more time and room because they were legally children and we knew they had been brainwashed. But five years into our marriage, when they were young adults, they were (mostly) out of our lives, too.
DH has seen the skids primarily outside of our home. . . about two visits a year for the past 15 or so years. SD visited us to "reconcile" but she really wanted money for her wedding. SS, who was much less drama-prone, has visited us sporadically--once every few years, I'd say. Then he, too, had the door shut on him, as his behavior oddly grew worse the older he got. I never attended a graduation (DH did). I did go to SD's wedding, and as I've said many times, we were treated like crap.
Eventually, the wind seemed to have gone out of all of their sails because we stopped providing any sort of reaction. Things kind of blew up last year when DH had his health crisis (when I joined ST) . . . not so much drama but just exposure to them and their awful toxicity again. I don't mean to be melodramatic, but it was like having been a victim of a crime and then getting exposed to the perpetrators of the crime again. I guess through the years they have always hovered out there like some dark cloud, but we had found relief and peace--it had all been tamped down. Then the fire broke out again.
It's been a year of, honestly, recovering from that. . . DH recovering health-wise, and both of us recovering from what we were exposed to with regard to his kids. It was trauma with more trauma placed on it. It's hard to explain. It's like we've had to regroup and go from here.
You…
...have been through the wringer, Mia. I agree, 'pathetic' is a pretty accurate description of this step nonsense, both situation and people. I took note when you wrote 'slither' and 'dark cloud', they are also accurate descriptions.
OSD doesn't seem to focus exclusively on money now, she is in the 'look at me' camp. (Research Cluster B, very good description of what we are dealing with.) I remember watching her antics with revulsion at the mandatory family celebration a few weeks ago. Her insecurity screams so loud. I do feel some compassion for the broken person she is (and likely will always be) but mostly I feel resentful of the chaos she has brought into my life. Being a newlywed should be a joyful time, not one filled with stress. DH told her that I was prepared to love her (I was) because she was his daughter, and that I would like to build a relationship with her. Honestly, after all that has happened, I wonder if that is even possible? Right now I just want her out of my life for good. Sometimes there is no going back....
I feel resentful of the chaos
One of the reasons DH and I survived it all is because we have always had FUN together--not much of a topic here (understandably) since we are all here because of step issues. We love exploring. Hiking. We used to run races together. Lots of water activities. We travel. Went out dancing a lot early on. During COVID, we had our "Friday night dance parties"--just the two of us having some drinks, turning the music up and dancing.
So, your comment hit home with me, as our newlywed time together was so . . . attacked. Because they wanted to destroy that. I remember sitting at an outdoor table at a beautiful restaurant overlooking the water, and I said to DH, "It's this. Moments like this that she wants to take away, that she wants to ruin." They scarred our newlywed period. Which is why at that 2 year mark I was ready to throw in the towel. I had been like you--ready and more than willing to get to know and, if possible, embrace his kids, and was s*** on.
That you are where you are at this period in your marriage when it comes to your SD is good. It sounds like a good strong base. When skids are younger, it's easier to make excuses for them and to keep giving them chances. Stay strong and hold steady!
I am a fan of the life you and DH make together. Congratulations
Those who put each other and their relationship above all else build lives of joy and adventure and a love for the ages together. They do this for themselves, each other, and in spite of the enemies at the gate regardless of who those attacking barbarians may be. They set the example of viable quality adulthood, strong partnership, and strong marriage for any minor and adult children of any flavor in their lives.
Unfortunately the kids are not bound to follow the example.
Part of the success as a couple is not tolerating any crap from those who for whatever reason choose to violate standards of behavior towards the partners and their relationship. Immediate confrontation of those disrespecting either partner and their marriage regardless of who they are BKs/SKids, ILs, Xs, extended family, etc.... has to happen without delay and without question for why the enemies at the gate so what they do.
I do not care why they do what they do. I do not care about their fee fees. Only their chosen behaviors matter IMHO.
Congratulations to you both on your joy, dance parties, and life together.
Stomp on the roaches who swarm to detract from your joy. They deserve and have earned nothing more than their final crunch when your shoe and your SO's shoe together ends them. IMHO of course. Hmmm. I wonder which dance step crunches the most swarming roaches?
Thank you, Rags. It has been
Thank you, Rags. It has been a long road filled with joy, upset, hurt, laughter, fun, anger, and so on! We have wavered. We've questioned ourselves. We let them back in at times when we knew better. He made excuses for them at times. There are times I saw my husband as a fool and other times I felt so proud of him (like now). Certainly hasn't been a straight line!
I think it's the cha cha that best gets the roaches. *ROFL*
Broad passion for life together. It is what works.
I am glad that you and DH have that together.
Time for an engineering study on the roach stomping efficiencies of different dance steps.
Yes!
Your description of your relationship reminds me of ours! We have a lot of fun together, whether we are doing something special, everyday errands, or nothing at all. We simply enjoy each other's company and there is rarely a shortage of laughter.
The only issues we face are OSD (major) and his family (minor). I feel like I (especially) and we are paying for their dysfunction. I am so resentful that it is this way.
On the other hand, there has never been any conflict with my kids or my family.
I think it is hard for him to fully understand the gravity of this because he has not walked my shoes (isn't he lucky?!) and he has had rose-colored glasses where his family is concerned. I am grateful this is changing, but...it is still REALLY HARD! Family or not...when someone shows you who they are, believe them!
Isn't it interesting and
Isn't it interesting and amazing how close couples "have a lot of fun together, whether (they) are doing something special, everyday errands, or nothing at all. (They) simply enjoy each other's company and there is rarely a shortage of laughter. "
That is all key to what my bride and I have together. Keeping the fun a focus even wile navigating the challenges of adulting, careers, family, and sadly the occasional or even frequent drama of challenges including Skids, ILs, Xs, XILs, extended family, etc....
At least she adults.
I am glad that others have it too.
Us, too
DH87 and I(79) still have fun together, too. It's kept us together all these years thru all the kid trauma. We just got home from the casino, still playing our 1 cent slots together, still eating free casino food, life is good. Lol.
Update.
Since she is blocked on all fronts, OSD has taken to calling DH at work. Not identifiable on caller ID. My suggestion was to have calls screened before connecting.
Here's the kicker.... She is angry about being blocked (even though she told DH she was blocking him and he was out of her life for good) and she insists she has done nothing wrong. Her degree of dysfunction is almost laughable. I guess she vascillated between tears and accusations; DH said she "talked over me" which is her style. Me, me, me! He was able to tell her that until she respected "my wife and I" there is nothing to talk about and hung up.
I am kind, gentle, and fair. However, it was long past time to 'put the hurt' on her. She fails to see 'the hurt' is due to her actions. Some people never learn. For now, I am enjoying the knowledge that there will be no intrusive texts, communications, or phone calls at home.
Your husband is gold. And so
Your husband is gold. And so are you!
Thank you!
You are right, Mia, my husband is gold! I am lucky!
As for me, I'm not sure if I'm gold...I may need to put my diamond encrusted shovel away. Am I still gold if my motto is, 'Kill her with kindness and bury her with a smile!'?
(Smile)
Do share when you bring the
Do share when you bring the hurt. I love how when the blocker got blocked she lost her mind.
Well played to you and DH.
When it comes to house training puppies.... I know it is not
a currently appropriate method. However, the grab them by the scruff of the neck, rub their noses in the wet or brown spot on the carpet, while growling a scolding "No!" with a firm swat to the rump works.
It also works with feral ill behaved teens and kidults. So, grab the neck scruff, force their nose into the stench they cause, grind it around a bit, growl a firm "No!" in their ear, swat them on the rump, then open the door and toss them out leaving them to whine and scratch at the door until they wander off or.... pull their head out of their own ass and earn re-entry.
Figuratively of course.
Disclaimer. I would not do this to a puppy. I would not hesitate to do this to an ill behaved or disrespectful teen or kidult. As a scathing allegory any way. Make them live the reality that their crap will not work out well for them in the least. Let them look in the window observing your best life with their nose pressed against the glass with forlorn whimpering eyes.
That's great!
Congratulations, that is good to hear. I love it when people draw healthy boundaries. Well done to your hubby, even though it would be hard for him, but good to see that he has finally opened his eyes.
I hope my DH will come to this one day, though he is also slowly opening his eyes now. I understand that it is hard when it is their own child doing it, and that they still have hopes that they will become better one day. But I'd like to think that most people don't really change, not unless they themselves realise that they are toxic and want to change to be a better person. If that internal self-realisation doesn't happen then they will always just remain the way they are. And the best you and your DH can do is to protect yourselves from constant fear, pain and agony. Take care of yourselves first, no one else would do that for you.