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Bubber's picture

I've rewritten this a number of times.  I could go back years, say how I've known my wife's kids for 14 years, taken them on/ paid for  holdays, helped with driving practice, decorated rooms, blah blah blah......but have decided to tell it how it is now. They're 21 and 19 and although the life plan included going to university, that hasn't happened. My wife's son (21) now has a good, responsible career; her daughter (19) has taken part time work whilst putting travel, uni and career plans on hold due to covid.  The point is, they're still at home!  It hasn't been easy over the years and now they're adults it's not getting any better.  They do nothing to help around the house.  The son, despite earnig a good salary, pays nothing towards his upkeep except for buying (and reluctantly at first) his own food, or most of it - he still uses general milk, bread etc and is very often cooked a meal.  The daughter is saving to travel.  I gave up setting my own boundaries, parental input or "adult with influence" years ago - after all they're not my kids are they....!!!  Last year I got annoyed with the daughter for telling her mum to F*** off and promptly had a hot drink thrown over me.  It was even cleared it up while she flounced out and went to her dad's.  When covid struck we said we would be adhering to the lockdown rules.  I have a health issue making me slightly more vulnerable.  Within 2 hours of asking that they take extra care the daughter was getting dressed up to go out, against the rules, and stating "I'm 18, you can't tell me what to do". When the sin aasked if his girlfriend could come round and STAY for maybe weeks his mum ended up in tears. When I spoke to him, at first reasonably, it ended up in a heated exchange where I was told to f** off and, when I complained, being pushed.  So - effectively assaulted twice within a couple of months.  I have never felt so unsafe and uncared for in my life!  The next 4 weeks were hell. Constant rows between mum and chidren regarding covid rules with me taking refuge upstairs no longer wanting or being allowed to intervene.  After all, they're not my kids...... When I did bite back, when the daughter entered our room uninvited and refused to get out, I was called a c*** and subject to tyraids of verbal abuse.  Cut a long story short, they eventually spent 6 months with their father which as far as we were concerned was bliss.  Now they've been back for a few months and although they're better re covid rules, they now virtually ignore me. IF I make a point of sayig hello, morning or the like, they deign to reply.  IF I engage them in conversation they will reply briefly, looking at their mother.  The son comes and goes (to work for example) without so much as a "morning", "bye" or "I'm home" and spends the remainder of his time in his room playing vid games.  It's only recently they've at least finally started clearing up after themselves and taking their dirty shoes off when they come in.  Despite doing a huge amount over the years I have never been so much as made a cup of tea by either of them.  Mind you, neither has their mum....  I have occasionaly for example continued making the son maybe a sandwich for lunch. IF he makes himself anythng he NEVER offers me anything.  Frankly, I now won't make him anything out of principle, but that's not who I am.  And there's the rub - being told not to intervene when I see boundaries being     

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tog redux's picture

If you both want them gone, what's stopping you from kicking them out? Give SS21 30 days to find a place to live, SD19 can have a little longer since she needs to find a full-time job, but they are plentiful right now, and if she behaves poorly before then, out she goes. 
 

If your wife is too weak to do it, you will have to. 

Winterglow's picture

Just out of curiosity, who does the house belong to? Who told you not to intervene when they stomp on boundaries? 

Time to get rid of the spongers. Evict them if you have to. They can get a nice flat together while your SD finds herself a job... and if your wife disagrees with that, she can go with them. If they get belligerent with you, don't hesitate to call the cops. 

justmakingthebest's picture

Time for them both to go. They can go stay with their dad or grandparents or whoever else will take them in. Kick them out. Throw their stuff in trash bags and leave it in the driveway, change the locks. 

LittleCloud9's picture

Nobody should live like this. They have jobs and their fathers home as a fall back. Change the locks, put their stuff and a note on the porch and reclaim your house. It's been too long. If they don't leave peacefully tell them you'll have them arrested for trespassing. If that makes things hard for them it's their own fault.

You and your wife don't need this abuse. They don't speak to you now, will you really be sad if they leave and never call? Save yourself and maybe one day they will grow into decent people and reconnect. In the meantime ditch them and go have fun with your wife. 
 

Don't set a deadline! don't give them a couple months to look for their own place! Don't argue with them about it! They assaulted you for goodness sake! They have no right to be in your house another day.

Bubber's picture

I agree.... The rub is though that that's not the path my wife wanted/wants to take.  She has a different relationship with HER children than I do, which I understand.  Abuse is a word I've used often but which has been denied

Rags's picture

She told your wife to F-off then threw hot liquid on you when you intervened?  Really?  I would have shoved that POS's head in a toilet then dragged her out of my house by her short and curlies.

He shoved you?  No F'n way that kids face would ever look the same when I got done with him.  Even after reconstructive surgery he would look like Quasimodo.

If my Skids had pulled that crap they would be on the curb picking up their shit out of the street while the locksmith was re-keying the locks to my marital home and the police showed up to haul them off under an arrest for assault.

Toxic adults have no place in the home or reasonable people. Regardless of who the toxic POS may be.  If their mom did not boot their asses out at the moment they pulled their violent crap.. she can GTFO with her spawn.

IMHO of course.

Grrrrr.

SMH

Bubber's picture

Well - I thought I'd only "saved" the blog for later, not posted it!!!  As always with these things it's not necessarily that simple.... Yes I have abslutely wanted to pack bags, change the locks etc, but that could have caused endless difficulties for the future, especially for their mum. So, my patience has and is being tested to the limit.  We actually BOTH live for the time they move out and make their own way. And no I wouldn't be sad if I never had anythong to do with them again.  Their loss, not mine.... Who's house is it?  Originally when I moved in, my wife's.  When I invested with an extension, loft conversion etc, my name was added to the deeds.  And yes, before anyone points it out, the extended house benefitted the skids hugely!  Who asked me not to intervene ?  My wife..... and the age old problem "you're not my dad".  I have very different ideas about parenting.  I'm not saying better or worse because who among us wrote the manual....  I would want to look after the little things - come to the table when called, clear up after yourselves, shoes off at the door - put them away, household jobs, chores, earn your pocket money, tell us if you're going to be late for dinner, whether you're going to home for dinner at all!! So it goes on.  The other way is not to sweat the small stuff, ignore, pick the bigger battles..... Not for me! My point is if you look after the smaller stuff then the bigger stuff doesn't materialise, or shouldn't, or not to the same extent.  Or is that BS and pie in the sky.....?  I have 3 older adult children, all with jobs and families.  It's been said by them that when they were young, although I didn't get cross often, they knew when they'd crossed the line.....  That doesn't seem and never has seemed to hold water here.  So - where are we now???  I'm trying to ignore being ignored - not easy because that's not who I am. I'm not making lunch or doing other stuff for them now out of principle - not easy as that's not who I am, yet when you get NOTHING in return the phrase door mat comes to mind....  I'm not saying anythng about boundaries etc because the come back would not be worth it - yet that's not who I am either!!  There's an abusive ex still on the scene (although just) who, despite years of trying to exclude his influence still enters our home by triangulating his toxic influence via the skids. I've had to face him off on the doorstep in the past and have had to tell him in no uncertain terms not to interfere in my wife and I making our WILLS, ffs!!  You couldn't make this shit up.  You might be able to tell I'm getting angry but then that's the point of being able to rant, isn't it??   Then there are the times, rare times, when things seem "normal" - maybe just for an hour or a morning or something and I think "great" or, worse,  "is it me"..... Enough for now.  When all is said and done, I came into this situation and want to be with the woman who is their mother.... How many out there have that dilema!!