I thought he got it
So DH apparently thinks it's normal for kids to not want to spend a time with their parents. He was talking to a friend whose teen doesn't want to come over to visit anymore and from that convo I gathered that he still doesn't get that there's something off with SD/BM/the whole situation and he thinks she's just acting like a normal kid but not caring if she sees him at all.
Yeah, I'd say it's more normal as a teen, but not to the extent of not caring at all if you haven't seen a parent for a month. And SD isn't a teen, she's a fourth grader. It seemed like DH had gotten it for awhile, but I guess he's still in denial and telling himself that it could be normal.
I sent him this article that seemed like it would be helpful, curious what you guys think of it:
https://psychcentral.com/pro/recovery-expert/2018/09/coping-with-the-rej...
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I like that article
As you're right, it's not normal. Teenagers, even tweens may want to spend more time in their rooms or more time with friends, they may not want to go on outings with their parents to the mall or the grocery store, but to go a month without seeing them and not even care at this age, not normal at all.
My DH is also in denial. I see the signs every time they are here, I just don't know when the shoe is going to drop or how. We pickup from school, are they going to stop going to school on the days we're supposed to get them?
Good article.Alienated kids
Good article.Alienated kids seem to easily cut out a parent, but they've been manipulated into that position. Kids whose parents are abusive love the parent and want a relationship, they just don't want to be hurt. That's one sign of alienation - the unambivalent dislike of a parent is only seen in alienated kids, not abused kids.
I agree with the steps for dealing with the rejection, too - it's what we did and DH was able to move past it and be happy.
And honestly, I thought for sure SS21 would never be back in our lives and yet, he is, so it is important not to believe that what's happening now will go on forever.
I do feel like she likely
I do feel like she likely inherited her mom's personality disorder, so it's hard to imagine it will ever be a normal or healthy relationship (BM throws her parents under the bus whenever it's convenient) but I guess time will tell.
Well, yes - my SS is back,
Well, yes - my SS is back, but it's not a normal or healthy relationship, because he too is just like his mother. But it's better than being alienated.
For DH I suppose it is. I'll
For DH I suppose it is. I'll be avoiding SD myself as much as possible if she's still a mini BM as an adult. I can't stomach the "me,me, me" personality in adults
My SS is superficially
My SS is superficially pleasant and tolerable. I see him for a couple hours 3-4 times a year. He doesn't ask for anything from us and DH wouldn't give it anyway. So I can be civil and disengaged.
Seeing him does trigger memories and feelings about the alienation and BM's behavior but I can deal with that. DH texts with him between visits but doesn't tell me much.
Great article very to the
Great article very to the point. I sent it to SO it's simple enough for him to understand and highlights the importance of setting boundaries.
Yes, I like that it's about
Yes, I like that it's about moving on and not wallowing or groveling for their attention.
I know people who estrange
I know people who estrange from their parents but it happens in adulthood not as a child. Even then it's usually does not last forever, although sometimes it might. My YSD tried to make up whth her mother but to no avail so she remained estranged from her until her death, she never had issues with dad. OSD periodically estranged from DH while BM was alive. But since BM died, OSD has been consistently in our lives and has been acting semi normal (she is a felon and has same mental issues as Bm, among other things but she's improving since BM is gone )
Estrangement seems to be a
Estrangement seems to be a very common thing with adults. I know even more kids/adults that aren't actually estranged but just have very little contact with one parent, usually because they lived in another state