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Hi Everyone. I recently became a step-parent to 3 kids in June, 21,19 and 8. I have 3 kids myself, 15,13 and 11. We knew going we would have very little time at home to ourselves during the summer because even though my kids all go to camp for the summer none of his kids leave for any period of time for the summer. His oldest who is 21 has been living in a foreign country going to school their for the last 2 years (just for fun, not degree or career oriented) and told us, consistently she was coming back for summer and after Labor Day moving their for good. When she still had no job offer there mid-august she told us she was going anyway to look for a job there. (My husband has a lot of family in that country). She had always been supportive of our relationship and cordial to me so I was more than ok with this plan for the summer.The only thing I asked was that we get two weekends by ourselves during the course of the summer in our home since we had no time to go away. We were basically living together before the wedding for a month and when my husband saw I was stressed by it said "why don't we ask the kids to stay at my parents (who live 8 blocks away and kids close with) for two weeks after the wedding so we get some alone time since we can't take a honeymoon right now." I felt good about this. Well, My husband was too scared to ask his kids for this, hoped I would forget and then it never happened. The second of the two weekends never happened either. On the second of the two weekends his 21 year old said "daddy can you pick me up at my friend's house saturday night, drive me to your place can I sleep over and then can you drive me to the train Sunday morning. So he asked me in front of her is this ok and I was put on the spot. I was an idiot and said yes because then I was even further taken advantage of. Friday she calls him and asks for him to pick her up from the train station Friday evening and drive to her friend about 20 minutes away (in the middle of a Happy hour for our friends at our house) and he says ok. That is when I lost my S---. Since then there has been a lot of tension but I always welcomed her into the house until after Labor day, when she announced she took a job in a town 10 minutes away from us and wants the option to live with us. When I said that on weekends we dont have any of the 4 school aged children I would like to have alone time with her father. (I didn't actually have this conversation with her, I am not allowed to as per my husband, he had it with her). The push back he got was pure manipulation. She told him that he promised she would always have a home with him, that you can't give birth to children and throw them away and that she has been abandoned. My husband who has always been doting and respectful of my needs and feelings became totally dismissive of me whenever it came to his children after that. Although it's only partially relevant, a little background information: We lived 45 minutes apart when we were dating. I lived in a beautiful apartment in the city and he lived in dingy two bedroom in the burbs. His 21 and 18 year old shared a room, a girl and a boy (when she was home) and his 8 year old slept in a makeshift room in the living room that was curtained off. I don't fault him for this. He has very little money and was paying child support and alimony and rent. He is a hardworking man who was trying to make the best life he could for his kids.My kids live very very well. In addition to what I earn I get very very generous child support as they have a very wealthy father. Initially the plan was for me to sell the apartment and find a less nice but bigger one that could accomodate all the children except the one moving back to the foreign country. His 18 year old, who was a freshman in college had been so awful and tried to thwart the relationship so many times and made it so clear he did not want to move to the city that I told his father he could get his own apartment with roomates near college and I would pay for half if it every month and that is what is he currently doing. His ex wife refused to let his 8 year old move the city part time. I consulted multiple divorce lawyers who told me were likely to lose in court so I bought a house in the burbs and put the apartment in the city on the market with the intention to get a very small apartment in the city for when I am with my boys during the week. This way his 8 year does not have to commute and we don't have endless lawyer bills on a very likely legal loss .I have partially uprooted my life, agreed to live out here whenever I don't have custody or whenever my boys are off from school, (my husband works out here). I feel that I have been more than generous with my stepkids, have tried to do my best for everyone, am taking my boys into a smaller, less nice place to acconmodate my husbands and his 8 year old daugter's needs and I am being pushed around but his ungrateful 21 year old. We went to see a marriage therapist and she said "well she is home now so it does not matter what your husband promised you or what you planned you need to deal with reality. Maybe you can leave to get away and she can stay home on the weekends you don't have any of the little ones. (oh-her mother lives 10 minutes away from us and she has a room there but she does not love being there, although she works in walking distance from her mother). I left the 2nd therapy session feeling hopeless. I wonder if I am crazy. I am giving these kids a home that I need to vacate if I want alone time with my husband when we don't have cutody? This is more her home than my home? I called my lawyer about something and mentioned it to him and he said "your therapist is giving out your home? what?" I was ready to call it quits when one of my friends snapped me out of it. She said "don't let a 21 year old brat decide your marriage." I was so upset that she was controlling our living situtation but if we split up I am letting her control my marriage and therefor all of my life really. I am so torn. I want my husband to have a good relationship with his kids. I want him to feel that this is his home as much as it is my home but I feel there are too many unfair expectations on me and I am bring forced into something that makes me so uncomfortable. I didn't buy a new home and uproot my life for his 21 year old to have a house to herself while I need to go away unless I want to be with her. I srated reading some other message boards online and saw that even when the house is split finacially 50/50 it is not a given any adult kids can live and be there whenver they want. What is realistic? What is acceptable? Sorry for all the rambling....
It sounds like you have
It sounds like you have compromised A LOT, at YOUR financial expense. Tell me, what has your husband compromised on...or has he only benefited? Sounds like it to me.
You have a husband problem.
You have a husband problem. He is allowing his 21yo daughter to do whatever she wants AND making you the "Bad Guy" by asking her things in front of you to which you are incapable saying "No".
It certainly sounds like your husband has made very FEW compromises. YOU gave up your apartment. YOU help pay rent for HIS son. YOU do this and YOU do that. What on earth does this man do besides help himself to your money and good nature?
Also, your therapist is crap and has NO idea how to work with a step family situation. Fire her and find one skilled in step families. And that is if you decide to stay married.
DH is married to you. If he
DH is married to you. If he wants to live with his daughter he needs to GTF out of your home and move in with his daughter.
End of problem.... at least for you.
Mini wife problem
To me it sounds like you need a new therapist. Last time I checked a marriage is between husband and wife. Sounds to me like there is now 3 in the marriage? Sounds soooo familiar. I think some healthy boundaries need to be set and those would be decided between you and your husband. The 21 year is getting to much control of your marriage/house etc., Do something now before it really gets out of hand. I could be wrong but it sounds like your DH lets his daughter control him. What she wants, she gets. He will need to change this attitude if he finds your relationship important. It is not fun or easy but deal with it now!
I wish you well!
Hi welcome to the board :)
I agree with the other posters that this is a DH problem. It does sound as though he is willing to do whatever it takes to make his princess happy. You on the other hand have made adequate arrangements to allow for you to parent as well as be married. I know this sounds tough but you have to make a stand now - the SD cannot move in. Whether you choose to simply state it, or point out all of the things you have compromised on already vs what he has compromised on, it's up to you. If you don't stop this now you will end up on this board unhappily for a very long time.
Take care of you
Right!
Piegirl is right - every word. And I can tell you from experience unless you take a stand now you will end up like me - spending 28 years trying to make the marriage work at your personal, financial and emotional expense. And believe me - you won't be any happier for it. You're the one whose been giving. Marriages are supposed to be composed of two mutually respective people. Put your foot down now. Tell DH you will no longer be thrown under the bus so he can patronize SD, that you will be cherished like a wife instead of an afterthought, he will take you on a honeymoon, he will pay 1/2 of all household expenses, invest a specified amount of money into a retirement account, and THEN he can spend whatever is left on his precious princess If he is not agreeable to this, you may qualify for an annulment.
Your dh needs to decide if he
Your dh needs to decide if he is married to you or his daughter.
Your dh is treating his daughter as the one with authority. My dh did the same thing and it will get worse if you don't put down some serious boundaries. What I have learned in a step family is that "No good deed goes unpunished". The nicer I was the more I got walked on. My dh gave his authority/power to his kids and EXPECTED me to lay down and do the same and it did not get better till I put down some boundaries and STOOD MY GROUND.
Please have some boundaries and stand your ground.
Good Luck Sweetie
"compromise or screw job"?
In my 30, early 40's---i might have tried to justify what you are going thru and sayyyy its a compromise for the good of the marriage. because that is what wives AND husbands dooooooo
Now that I am a little older, I can say YOUR getting screwed.---Your internal voice, is telling you to question what is going on. Listen to it...
GoodLuck
JMO based on what you wrote.
Kids, whether "adult" or juvenile should not be given so much
power and control.
You have a DH problem, and he has fallen under the manipulation spell SD has put him under.
You've gone above and beyond what should ever have to be done in an effort to make things work.
If he's going to allow SD to lead him around by his penis, then it's time to intervene.
The problem isn't the "problem" but how we perceive it. Often wives think it lies with the SK's and to an extent this may be true, but it brings us into a "which came first" situation. Are the kids horrible because they're horrible, or are they a mess because DH has never been an effective parent? He has caved and given them what they want out of fear of "losing them" or "losing their love" and the kids know it. Manipulation is a SD's favorite tool because it is very effective when dealing with dadddeee.
You may need to remind DH who his wife is, and that marriage trumps any and all kids. You are to be a team and stand in solidarity against things that harm your marriage.
DH may also need to be reminded that a divorce is more expensive, and painful than setting his toxic bi-product offspring straight.