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momofthreekiddo's picture

I've read here for years - although being married to my husband with whom I had three kids.  Both his and mine.  Married for 20 + years.  I read here after looking to support a friend and was amazed at some of the stories and read without comment as I didn't feel like without the experience I had anything to add.

One of the reasons I stayed is that I saw behavior in some of the husbands/boyfriends and even some of the bio moms that reminded me of the WORST traits in my own husband.  Traits I only saw in the worst of times, but I had glimpses of.  I guess I could relate.  It wasn't a good realization but it was enough to keep me reading.

2 months ago, my husband decided he needed to move back to his childhood home he hasn't lived in for over 25 years.  He left as a teen and has only returned back to visit.  He left and stated if the marriage was to continue I would come with.  Leave my daughter in college locally who lives with us, leave my kiddo who was going to be a junior in high school and competes with a team that is more family than friends with her grandmother here to finish school, to force my son to leave his routine and friends (he has a hard time with new situations), for me to leave my large extended family.  No questions, no ramp up, nothing.

Here I am a middle aged woman who never planned on being single again, dealing with issues I never imagined.  Yet, I had some guidance.  From you ladies.  How to deal with ex's and boudnaries and everything else.  Although there are no 'step' parents in the picture yet, he has connected with a number people from his past and I'm sure a new girlfriend won't be far on the horizon...and I even have a layout on how to be a reasonable birth mom.

So from this not a Stepmom who never thought I would be here, thank you for your stories and advice to one another.  It benefits people you don't even know about.

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momofthreekiddo's picture

Yes three.   The two daughters he wants to leave here (one is in college but lives in an apartment type access in our current basement, one going to be a junior in high school who is a high level athelete with no opportunity to continue her sport at her high level in this small town and the third son who would come with us but who has a very hard time making friends and dealing with new situations.  He needs to be in this town (3 states away) to achieve his happy and the 'kids are about grown anyway'.  I realize it sounds like he has lost his mind - I think he kind of has....of note, for the first half of our marriage he was the primary bread winner.   For the last half I have been and he spent a good chunk of that being a 'stay-at-home' dad.   As the kids got older this morphed into him trying to find a source of income where he could have flexiblity and be his own boss.  He didn't really find anything that made him happy career-wise.  There were other issues, I'm not perfect, trust me but it all came to a head over this moving aspect.

So yes, eventually there might be steps (and acutally soon to be ex is very bad at being alone so I anticapte it sooner rather than later) but as of now we are one soon-to-be-split original, biological family.

hereiam's picture

I am sorry you are going through this and glad that this site has helped you.

A lot of the dysfunction, dynamics, and behavior issues that go on in step families, do happen in non-step situations. It can just be harder to recognize or do anything about because there is no outsider making the issues so apparent, or to blame.

Siemprematahari's picture

Is he going through some mid life crisis or desperately wants a change and wants to go back to his roots? Did he even take time to discuss this with you to see how you feel about it and how it will affect the kids?

momofthreekiddo's picture

Oh, I think it's a mid life crisis.  He told me why he needs to go.   I told him why I can't.  He says its something he can't compromise on (which I understand a little, I mean, I'm not compromsing either).  He is convinced that the kids would be fine if we moved with the youngest.  The oldest could find an apartment or dorm, the middle could live with grandma and continue her life and activities.

He is also convinced that the kids will be fine with the divorce as well.   They are excellent kids (truly, I know everyone says that but they are) and I feel like I need to choose them in this situation.   Now the children don't know that if I moved he would be open to reconcile.  I would never want them to feel like me staying here is only for them - I don't want to go either - and feel the guilt of our marriage break down.

tog redux's picture

OP, your husband sounds very narcissistic. Most people with NPD are not nasty malevolent people, they are just unbelievably self-centered, in need of constant validation, and unable to have empathy for other people's needs. The fact that he just stopped working entirely and now is just going to pack up and move away from his kids would highlight a lot of narcissism.

Sorry, this must be very hard. I hope you have a good therapist.  How did you end up reading on a stepparent site anyway, just curious?

Thisisnotus's picture

that is what I was going to ask as well. How did you end up on a step parent site when you are more likely to be a future BM.......who hates all of us here. HAHA

momofthreekiddo's picture

I just said yesterday I wish he would find a girlfriend sooner rather than later.  He is much better in a couple than alone.  My kids are old enough that I would have zero issues with another parent-like person in their life.  I mean as long as everyone can be cordial and respect each other.   And my children, regardless of age, have been taught to treat others with respect.  Money isn't even an issue as I have been responsible for the kid's expenses on my own for years so while help from him would be nice it is not required.  It's even written in the soon to be signed decree that way (in all honesty, he gave me the house and waived alimony and I waived formal child support).

My kids have lots of authority figures that love them - grandparents, aunts, uncles, coaches, family friends.   One more person to the mix doesn't throw me in a tizzy.  I wouldn't even freak out if they called her mom.  I am very secure in my position in their lives.   

 

momofthreekiddo's picture

One of my best friends became a stepmom and the birth mother was the height of crazy.  In her case, the birth mom didn't have the kids full time (her choice, she left and asked for one weekend a month, one week a summer but every Christmas) but tried to be very controlling regarding my friend's role.  The friends and her step kids were very close and she wanted to know how to keep their relationship healthy while dealing with the demands made by their mother.   Happy ending though - my friend turned over all dealing with the birth mom over to her husband and kept doing what felt right when it came to the kids.  The birth mom calmed down after about 3 1/2 years of constant badgering and has gone pretty much silent.  The kids are now teenagers and don't exercise any visitation with the BM but text with her daily.  BM has even told the kids that my friend is their day-to-day mom and she hopes that when they get married they acknowledge that (weird I know BM in that situation is very weird).

We googled "Birth Mom hates Step Mom" and found this site.  We worked toegther at the time so she continued to read so would share.   I just got hooked Iat checking in I think.

Thisisnotus's picture

He wants to move and you want the kid to stay in the sport and not move.....so neither of you are willing to compromise whatsoever....so with that...it's pretty much over.

Have the kids always come first to you in your marriage?  I'm leaning toward that he is having an affair......people don't just up and move for no reason.....if you have been married that many years....he already knew  you wouldn't move with him.....

tog redux's picture

You'd be OK with disrupting kids in their last years of high school "just cuz"?  Seems to me there should be a better reason than, "I want to move back to my home town", which I assume will still be there after the kids are out of school, barring an apocalypse.

Thisisnotus's picture

No, I would not be okay with it....at least I don't think so......but I may at least entertain the idea or maybe try and get him to wait two more years.....

This particular situation is odd....so I'm still sticking to affair or he just simply wants a divorce and he figured that this is an easy way out.....

momofthreekiddo's picture

Hey, I completely agree....I even stated in a response above that I understand he was not willing to compromise moving, as I as not willing to compromise not moving.

The kids have always come first...to a point.   It was also important that hubby was kept happy as well.  Like he could sacrafice for the kids but only to a point.  I was always the one to make the most concessions.   But in another lifetime it made him very happy to take care of me.   When he first stayed home he did all the housework and cooking and kid running.  He monitored homework and grades.  He was a great stay at home dad.  As the kids got older and could take over chores and didn't need as much he just started doing less and less and less.

There were other issues in the marriage - money, his unwillingness to get a real job, my menopause making me far less accomadating as I was always one to 'not sweat the small stuff', busy kids.  It wasn't perfect.  He was willing to work on all those issues or change his behavior as long as I moved.  I didn't believe that the other issues would disappear, and wasn't willing to uproot me, my kids and be gone from my friends and family, to take that chance.  So trust me, in some versions of the story I am 100% the villian and I realize that.

The papers have been filed and he still sends me messages every day telling me if I just showed up tomorrow he would fall to his knees and thank god and promise to be a better man.  But it has to be there.

Thisisnotus's picture

I do not think you are the villan at all. I think you were smart not to believe that he would change only in you moved....that never happens or at least doesn't last.

 

Merry's picture

So he’d fall to his knees and be a better man if only YOU would do what he wants you to do. Sorry, but that made me laugh. 

He’s essentially acknowledging that he’s NOT a good man...and that it’s your fault. 

Narcissist. 

susanm's picture

I am leaning toward affair as well.  My guess is a rekindling of something courtesy of Facebook.  That is incredibly common.  Sure the kids just visited but they were not looking for anything and any evidence could be easily kept under wraps.  A mid-life crisis divorce is one thing but suddenly having to move back to your childhood hometown and not really taking care of your aging parent is just too specific. 

Personally, that would make me feel somewhat better because there would be a reason rather than some bizarre mystery.  Long-term marriages tanking because someone looked up their highschool crush on Facebook is such a cliche at this point that I would be laughing and pointing all the way to the attorney's office to get the best settlement possible.  Get your fair share of the marital assets and let him toddle off into the sunset with Susie from 10th grade math class.

momofthreekiddo's picture

All the assets are mine - he's so desparate to be able to afford a life up there as long as I waived child support he had no other demands.

susanm's picture

Then he definitely has someone funding him.  I would get the divorce done quickly before the bloom is off the rose and they see each other for who they are now rather than who they remember.

Thisisnotus's picture

Do NOT, I repeat DO NOT under any circumstances waive CS!!!! I ALMOST did..........would have been a huge mistake.

 

susanm's picture

In most states, a parental agreement to waive child support is not enforceable regardless of what was exchanged for the agreement.  Child support belongs to the child.  The parent can jump up and down all they want screaming that they "gave her the house instead" and that is too bad.

momofthreekiddo's picture

Alimony for 10 years vs. child support for 4.  Plus the house in lieu of payment.   As long as I am not on Medicaid/Welfare/Food Stamps, I can waive child support.   The lawyer did say if there was a change in my income I could request child support be started at that time for any minor child.   

momofthreekiddo's picture

So this post now makes me giggle and a litle.   Come on find out, soon to be ex attended his high school renuion this summer that he had been invited to prior to leaving for another state.  He never mentioned this reunuion to me once.   At said reunion he has 'reconnected' with 'old friends' all of whom are either in the process of divorcing, just divorced or separating.   They have formed an informal 'support club for divorce' .   They are all women.  Under/over that one of them ends ups being a much closer friend in the end.

So cliche.

SteppedOut's picture

So you have been supporting him financially? And he has refused to get a meaningful job? 

Hopeful he doesn't try for alimony....

tog redux's picture

Yeah, OP, get his agreement to not seek alimony before you agree to not seek Child Support.

momofthreekiddo's picture

Absolutely done.   The lawyer said waiving child support in lieu of alimony was the best situation as although it would have problem offset the amounts pretty well, alimony would be awarded for 10 years and my youngest is 14.  Plus I got the house.  He did leave with a vehicle and all of his hunting trophies (like I wanted them) and his meager amount of money he had saved before his plan to siphon off cash to pay for his departure feel apart.   Basically, he had planned on waiting for the summer to end and leave but got impatient and made when I didn't want to buy a new grill....true story.

momofthreekiddo's picture

Hubby himself got his current step mom at age 27.  He 100% views her as a stepmom....and her children as his siblings even though they are at least 10 years younger (although they had childrent early in their lives so our children are all around the same age).

He will accept nothing less from our children if and when he introduces another family to blend.  My kids will most likely be fine.  Even if they are not, they will treat whoever it is with kindness and respect.   It is who they are and I would not tolerate less.

The oldest is not happy.   Middle is being neutral.  Youngest is thankful to me as dad is trying to convince him that HE should come move and 'start over just like Dad' and he does NOT want to.  Oldest cut her visit short as she is a legal adult and not bound by the agreement me made when we seperated nor by the divorce decree.

 

WTF...REALLY's picture

 I was married for 20 years and two kids with my first marriage. The last few years he started to change completely. Similar story, he wanted to different life. Plus I think he was having an affair. It was difficult leaving him. But I did. And it turned out to be the best thing I ever did. I’m on my second marriage. It’s been nine years. We survived  his daughter living with us. She moved out last year. To say she made our life miserable is an understatement. As did her mother. But now we’re free and it’s been absolutely wonderful.

Sometimes the hardest thing to do turns out to be the best thing to do. 

momofthreekiddo's picture

The idea of dating someone is so incredibly far from my mind I can't even imagine, but yes.  My kids have said the house is so much less stressful, so baby steps.

WTF...REALLY's picture

 Definitely.  Ended up reuniting with somebody I was actually engaged to before my first marriage. I had broken it off. But after reuniting we were married within eight months. It was wild and it’s been amazing. 

 

 This was a couple years after my divorce. You just never know what magic is around the corner.  A good friend gave me the best advice when I got divorced. She said whatever you do, make sure you never become bitter. 

ESMOD's picture

Glad this site helped you..  It's true, a lot of the issues that we deal with in stepfamilies are actually centered around issues that happen in all families..

Hope your situation does get better for you.. whichever way it goes.

DPW's picture

Welcome to the site! I've been here since around 2007 under a different name. I have also continued reading and learning from the site on what not to do, in many areas of my life. My first step situation was terrible and ended poorly and then I was single for many years until my current step relationship which is good. Throughout all this time, I have been reading this site daily. 

I think your DH is going through a mid-life crisis and quite possibly an affair.  My SO is going through something similar - he has become ultra-religious and I'm not religious at all. It's making for interesting times here as well and I have thoughts of leaving. 

I commend you on the actions you are taking. Admirable. Your kids are thriving; why screw with that?