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bananaseedo's picture

Has anyone adopted a young adult cat and already had a much older cat and also two dogs?  I'm struggling so much.  

My mom (widowed) adopted a cat from a shelter, I fell for her hard and then my mom returned it after a good two month try.  Nothing wrong w/the cat, an adorable calico female.  My mom rushed and was not ready-she's approaching 80 though in very good health is struggling with depression and although tried everything to have her stay, in the end she returned her. I was heartbroken and very upset- my family has always had a different approach to animals-they are replaceable/can be given up.  I was always opposite and always brought many pets home.  I have also been a 'for life' person. My current cat adopted at 4 months and he's 15 now (pretty good health, very laid back nice guy)-my Weims are younger but here for life.  My previous dog was a Boston who passed at age 10- we suspect DCM -it was a very quick downhill till she passed w/in days.  

I have been quite upset w/my mom- in hindsight I should have tried to bring the cat here to see how she did before she gave her up-but last I heard she was going to keep her and then w/out saying much returned her.  I've been thinkign about her non-stop.  I don't understand people that do this.

STUPID me today dropped my son at the skate park and had that tug to go into the shelter-I shouldn't have.  She's still there :(  Been 2-3 weeks and hasn't been adopted.  

Problems?  My DH isn't keen on the idea, we have enough pets.  2- not sure how my old resident cat would take to it and 3- having to intro slowly to cat AND two high prey drive dogs.  They respect our older cat but he was here when they came home...my youngest dog will sometimes chase him if our cat runs -so far nobody has hurt anyone but I am always vigilant.  I know I CAN bring her and always return if she is in danger from either dogs/our cat -part of me things it's insane since we have 3 pets.....it's a lot.  Another part of me can't let go.  I bonded w/her and felt so horrible seeing her in this small space (though shelter is very clean/nice)- she came up to the window and rubbed on it.  I'm so very torn.  I want to do what is best for our family and also for this sweetheart.  

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SMto2's picture

I have added a kitten to a much older, set-in-her-ways cat, but not with also 2 dogs. My youngest DS begged for a dog, but with our busy lifestyle, we knew we didn't have the time. After several dead goldfish, we grudgingly agreed to a kitten--another female kitten to go with our older female kitty. Turned out the shelter was wrong about the gender of the kitten my DS picked out, and it turned out to be a male! oops!  DS was already attached, so we brought the kitten home. My one-pet-household for her entire life older cat was NOT happy at first. She hissed at the kitten and made sounds I'd never heard before--I'd describe between a "meow" and a "growl." lol. My older kitty would not eat for a few days and would just sit with her ears pinned back. I finally bought some nice canned food (her favorite) and loved on her and she came around to eating again. And after a while, she finally got used to the kitten, who's now almost 3 years old! He gives her grief sometimes (wanting to play, which she clearly does not!) but for the most part, they get along ok. I come home sometimes in the middle of the day and find they're both sleeping on the same bed, so I think they're good company for one another. And maybe your existing older cat would find another cat a good ally against the dogs, which currently outnumber your kitty. I'm sure it's workable. And it sounds like if you don't adopt the kitten, you're going to feel awful, so maybe you should just go for it!

notsurehowtodeal's picture

I have done it. I had an older cat and two dogs - both high prey. One of them "treed" a couple of half grown kittens and DH brought them inside. I knew they belonged to a neighbor who lets her barn cats breed indiscriminately, so I decided to just keep them. (My whole life cats have found there way to me - I have had as many as five and have never gone to a shelter - they just find me.)

The older cat was not happy with the newcomers - but she eventually adjusted. I started out keeping them separate, the kittens in a room and her having the run of the house. I then reversed the situation. She put them in their places pretty quickly, and they learned to leave her alone.

My older dog knows that you do not chase the cats in the house -  even if they run, so she wasn't a problem. The younger dog would chase if they ran. I had several "come to Jesus" discussions with her and she learned not to chase, even if they ran. I tried not to give her the opportunity - for several weeks the kittens and the dog were never left alone. I kind of went overboard in the beginning, she got so she wouldn't have anything to do with them for fear of getting in trouble.

In your case I'd start by introducing the new cat to the dogs while she is in a carrier. And keep the introductions to the dogs separate from the introductions to the cat. You don't want them to excite each other.

 

beebeel's picture

Gary kitty was around 15 when we brought home a puppy. She hated him for a week, ignored him for another, but by the third week she was sleeping next to him in his bed. She was 17 when we introduced puppy #2 but by then she really didn't care. She lived to be 18 and hated most people and other living things. But I'd bust her in that puppy pile every day until her last. ❤

Aunt Agatha's picture

3 dogs, 2 cats.

Great advice above.  My mom taught me to always feed the cats first so they are ‘higher up’ in the pet hierarchy.  I have never had a problem introducing cats into a household.  Just take it easy getting everyone to settle in and let the dogs know they are ‘under’ the cats.

ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

So not with cats, we may introduce one in the future (once we're in a bigger house, we have two turtles and three dogs and they're inside babies... we go to the dog park quite a bit, but we def need more space for any more furbabies!).

But the puppy that DH brought home due to his coworker "just going to be rid of her since the shelter is full."  She's been introduced swimmingly. At first they definitely weren't sure. My dog was beyond intrigued, kept by her side, had a VERy protective sense, but was extremely annoyed if he got touched by her. Dh's dog was growling at her and showed some teeth, I thought for the first two days I was going to have to find her a new home because i didn't want him to snap at her. 

BUT, I made sure they weren't left alone for a few days, started with short spurts of home alone and after just a couple of days they get along GREAT. All of them are playing together, they're gentle with her. Honestly they're being super great big brothers. I walked in the other day to her laying on DH's dog and they both looked content as could be.  She follows them around everywhere and tries to copy them (which is great, has made potty training a breeze and she can already sit and lay down!)

I think new animals can be introduced into the home Smile Just means some diligence on your part during the adjustment period.

disrestep's picture

Don't give up on this kitty. If you know in your heart you can give her a good home then just do it and take her in. 

There is some really good advice here on introducing them with the dogs.

I've taken in homeless pets and feral cats all my life, including feral cats that people said would never be tame. I can personally tell you, the feral cats all became the best, loving, tame pets I've ever had, and they were indoor-only during their lives with me and DH. They all got along, but it took time and patience.

If any of this helps you out:

Cats feel safe up higher than ground level. We have a multi-tier cat stand. The tallest curved cat seat on it is about  6 ft. up. We have only one cat now, and he hangs out on the top tier a lot, especially when he sees foxes, coyotes and dogs outside. So, if you have a place that the new kitty can access easily up high enough so the dogs cannot get to her, she will most likely feel safe there. 

When we introduced our current feral cat, now a big love bug, to our other two cats, (now deceased), we took a large piece of plexiglass and made it into a temporary door by duct taping it on one side-like where the hinges would go and keeping new kitty in a room on one side of and the resident kitties on the other side. That way they could all see each other and touch their noses to the plexiglass without any bloodshed. This also gave resident kitties run of the house while they got use to new kitty. It took a few weeks. At first there was hissing and growling through the plexiglass, but no one got hurt. After a week, the hissing decreased and they became more curious of who this new cat is. We then removed the plexiglass and let them be together while monitoring every second at first. This was a tip from a veterinarian and it worked so well.

also, many years ago, I did the same thing with a screen door on a room with two new cats I took in. That worked well also.

I also find if they all have their own food and water bowls and pans, there is no need to fight over food or water. 

And..toys, if they all have enough toys and scratchy posts to use, there is no fighting for some. Also, neutered and spayed cats and dogs are much, much less prone to fighting than unneutered.

And..the best thing that came out of all this. Just seeing the bond some of them formed with each other while becoming best friends and knowing they were all loved, safe and happy was well worth the time, stress and effort in gradually introducing them to one another.

At first, I almost gave two of the ferals I brought in to other homes, as I wasn't patient enough to allow them the time they needed to get along with the spoiled, resident cat. But, after giving them a few months, they all bonded and resident cat and one of the ferals became inseparable. 

I know many people who have dogs and cats in one home and growing up I always had many pets. It can be done and takes a little time, as you know, but knowing the lives you save make it so worth it.

Best of luck to you with the kitty.

bananaseedo's picture

Well just wow!  Such wonderful advice from my friends here!  This is all wonderful and gives me hope.

A little more background/info.  She is about 1.5-2yrs old, already spayed, up-to-date on shots/rabies, microchipped, etc.   She's a cuddler for sure. 

If we do this-I'll likely take some time off work-maybe a week so I can be there to get everyone adjusted, We do have a set-up for her. We have a dog gate (w/a smaller kitty door built in) that we can put in the hallway that divides the boys rooms/bath/laundry room/hall closet from rest of the house.  On one ocassion my son came by w/his gf and her cat-was there one day...the dogs were very interested and sniffing her through the gate but no agression-my cat just ignored it. 

I would get her set-up there at first....w/her litter box and food set up in the laundry, and she can sleep in the boys room or the hall closet w/her bed.  I had given my mom several things of my cat (beds) and bought her a cat tower/litter box...basically set her up.  So mom cleaned them and gave them back-so I now have 2 cat towers  in house and sunroom.   I have the beds she used and can get her litterbox from mom-so kitty would be around some familiar smells and my older cat has now probably smelled her on the cat tower.  THey've both been in the cat carrier so bonus there.  Some familiarity with smells.

I also have two large dog kennels I could place kitty in when introducing to the living room area. 

For some time the kitty would be full indoors-but my cats have always been indoor/outdoor-just my opinion it keeps them mentally healthier and physically-running after bugs, mice, birds, sunshine, in fact my older cat no longer uses a litterbox and has his spots outdoors. He stays on revolution for fleas, etc. Fenced in yard.  That said it would be her choice.  My older cat stays in the sunroom a lot-in the cat tower, recliner chair, etc. He still hunts at his age-brought in a chipmunk a couple weeks ago (didn't kill it). 

DH was more receptive this am. I just am bonded and have this strong pull to add her to the pack.  I should have brought her home before mom returned her to try her out-but hey, is what it is at this point....all I can do is keep building my case at home and/or ask for forgiveness later ha!