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Trying Daily's picture

Just venting here, nothing at all to do with my ss11 really. He was actually pretty good yesterday, even after his dad called and said he wouldn't be picking him up until this afternoon rather than last night. Normally that blows the whole night/day/weekend/whatever, but last night he was OK. I hope one day he sees that I have never missed a football game, basketball game, school activity, always kept my plans if we made them... even when working 7 days a week 12++ hours a day. His dad didn't go to a single flag football game a few years ago because "its just flag football" misses at least 2 games a season now that he's in tackle football (out of 6), missed at least half of his basketball games last winter even on his weekends, and still calls on Friday once in a while to say he'll pick him up Saturday morning instead because he has to "work late"...

Anyway, that's not what I was getting into this morning. God's honest truth, I adore and admire my wife; but sometimes she drives me absolutely crazy... I work, she's a stay at home mom, which is how we BOTH want it. I average "only" 55 hours a week now, but I also go to school 2 nights a week, generally until 9p.m. My shift starts at 5a.m. which means I have to leave my house no later than 4:30, so I get up around 3:30-4. Most nights I will usually fall asleep watching a movie or TV with my family, and my wife has gotten much more understanding about that. Oh yeah, I'm also narcoleptic. Anyway, she used to get upset with me about falling asleep on the couch until I went to the doctor and got diagnosed and put on a med to relatively control it. But, I still only average 5 hours of sleep a night, which I actually function pretty well on.

Lately, our 3 month old daughter hasn't been sleeping well at all. Well, she hasn't nursed, played, pooped, napped, slept, etc... well St all. She's still a wonderful baby, its just that naps are only 30-45 minutes, nursing takes forever because its become a game to her, at night she'll sleep for an hour at a time only it seems... I know its what babies do, its probably a growth spurt, she may be cutting teeth, etc...

What I don't understand is when our daughter wakes up in the middle of the night, why does my wife feel the need to wake me up too? I know she's frustrated, irritated, tired... all the things that I am. But like this morning, we went to bed at 11, meaning at most I was going to get 5 hours sleep. At 12:30 our daughter either woke up or started fussing again after being quiet for a half hour. My wife woke me up with the "Really?" And "its time to go night-night" and "I can't do this, I don't know what her problem is or what she needs" comments.

And then again at 1:15.

2:00

2:30

3:00

3:29... one minute before my alarm, she woke me up to ask since it was going off soon, would I change her diaper while she went to the bathroom before nursing? I don't really have a problem with this, it makes sense...

Then she got upset because I said something about being tired too. She said I'm used to not getting sleep, so it shouldn't be a big deal. I know she was not quite awake so I didn't want to start a fight, because she knows that if I am at work not 100% aware of my surroundings and alert, I could be killed.

But it really irritates me that she expects me to be OK with not getting sleep "because I'm used to it"... I'm not used to it, you never get used to it, its taking years off my life.

I would love to be able to come home, shower and change, spend time with my family and be in bed by 9. I know that will rarely happen right now, I understand that. It just really irks me that its EXPECTED of me. I'm the first one up in the morning and the last one to bed at night. I don't get a nap. I work my butt off, at work and at home.

I don't get it...

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ManagingMom's picture

Here's my take, as an ex-SAHM with a man who worked outside the home and who seemed to think that that was all he should be expected to do.

First, even though your wife stays at home, she works. She works from the time she gets up in the morning until she goes to bed at night. Not every single minute, but she's on call 24/7. At no point does she get to come home from work and sit on the couch. She takes her breaks when she gets them, if she gets them.

One of the biggest frustrations that I had with my EX was that he did not recognize that what I did was WORK. Picking up toys, making dinner, folding laundry are not simply 'woman movements'. Taking care of the house and kids is constant, dehumanizing, mind-numbingly dull, unpaid and largely unappreciated WORK. I don't know what your job is, but I doubt that it involves poop, vomit, snot, and drool.

Your wife WORKS on the same number of hours of sleep per night as you do. She gets up when the baby cries, so she's WORKING at 2, 2:30, 3. You say that you work your butt off at work and at home. Does work at home include changing the baby? If it's work when you do it, it's work when your wife does it.

She isn't asking you to do anything she isn't already doing herself. It appears that you think you should have a full night's sleep because you WORK, and that she can forfeit one because she doesn't. But she DOES.

You both have the exact same problem, which is that the baby is not sleeping through the night. At three months she should be sleeping, pooping, playing and nursing like a boss.

There are steps you can both take to get that to happen. Google "getting a baby to sleep through the night". Here's a link to the Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/baby-sleep/FL00118

Probably the single best thing to know is that you don't have to go to the baby every time she fusses. Wait a few minutes. Give her a chance to fall asleep on her own.

You and your wife should make getting the baby to sleep through the night a goal.

cant win for losin's picture

i am a SAHM/working from home mom. I have 3 kids. Two teenagers and a 1 year old. My fdh has a nasty schedule like you. He has to wake up anywhere from 1:30 a.m.-2:30a.m. Mon-Fri. Works average 50 hours a week, PLUS the two hour daily commute.
Oh my heart bleeds for him. He falls asleep during "family" time, too tired, etc.... (i could almost swear you are him lol) I understand his tiredness. I NEVER complain. I am so thankful he provides and works so hard.
I get that he works outside the home and I don't. WE decided on this together.

But just as ManagingMom said, we SAHM don't get to "leave" our jobs. It is NON-STOP. Yes, we have those moments where we are all caught up, kids are napping, that we can take a break. But we don't LEAVE for our break. On call is a perfect description.
"well WE decided this is how it would be, she would stay home. take care of the house and kids."
Yes, but that doesn't mean she doesn't get tired too. Your tired, she's tired. I personally get tired of trying to every once in a while remind fdh of that. Just because I don't get up a 2 a.m. doesn't mean i don't get tired.
The first few months with a baby is the most exhausting. Yes baby should be sleeping through the night. They go through "stuff" at 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, and 12 months. Stuff meaning, off their normal routine. It could last a week, it could last a month. Why they do this, could be lots of reasons. Teething, growth spurt, getting ready to reach a milestone. Just like some babies will suddenly sleep less, some will sleep more. This too shall pass.
Read the book, " Just Go the Fuck to sleep" it's hilarious. My bd1 slept through the whole nite at 7 weeks. Amazing right. BLISS. Guess who started waking up like a frickin newborn a 6 months. FOR 3 MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT COOL. And let me tell you a little secret, despite all i just praised my fdh about, his hard work his crazy hours, how much i understand, blah blah. Guess what I was thinking sometimes at 1 and 2 and 3:00 in the morning????? "Look at that bastard sleeping while I am taking care of OUR baby. Fucker never gets up with her. EVER. I DO IT ALL." Yes, I was soooo exhausted I was losing patience, i was frustrated. I was mad at him cause the baby wouldn't sleep.
My advice, encourage your wife to research, ask friends, ask peditrician, google, about the baby right now. Maybe yourself if you have a break, ask a co worker, google yourself. Come home and say, "oh man I was telling so and so how bad i feel for you cause the baby keeps you up at night, and they said try this..."
That statement will work wonders. You just conveyed to her that you are thinking about her during the day, you are acknowleding her getting up with the baby, acknowleding it is hard work, and trying to help her find a solution.
As far as her mumbling in the middle of the night, I don't think she is doing it to wake you up, i think she is just frustrated. I would "say" things too. Fling the blankets off "are you fucking kidding me?!!" "why do i even bother going to sleep?"

I would just say right now, you both are over tired. When is the last time you two went out? Even a quick dinner out, just the two of you would help, reconnect. Though, I have to admit I would not leave the baby alone with a sitter at ALL. That's just me. I feel bad for fdh, felt bad then too. We could've used it a time or two. Oh well, we got through it.

Trying Daily's picture

I haven't gotten through your whole comment yet, so I may reply again, but I had to say this right sway: I know my wife works all day every day. I'll never deny that. I know she's tired. I'm not upset because "she doesn't work". I know she does and I have no problem coming home and cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, etc... I WANT to help her out because I do recognize how much she does do. I don't expect to come home to hot dinner on the table, a cold beer by my recliner and a foot rub. Not even close. And I should've been more clear about that. I apologize if I gave you the wrong idea. Quite honestly, I do make dinner probably close to half the time. I do take care of our daughter once I'm home, all except nursing her obviously lol. I drive back and forth dropping off and picking up from practice. Because I know she's been going all day, just like I have from work, and since me coming home is my break from the shop, me doing that for her is her break. I've told her to go take a nap if she needs it. I know all too well what its like to be exhausted and don't wish it on anyone... all I'm saying is I'd like a little of the same consideration back. If our daughter wakes up in the middle of the night, of course I'll wake too, irregardless of whether my wife talks to her or not. I just don't want to hear that I shouldn't be tired because I'm used to not getting any sleep then have it thrown in my face that I'm 'a zombie' and 'not there' later because I am so tired. That was my point.

cant win for losin's picture

if your comment is meant for me, i apologize if i came across as "hey she works too" attitude. That was NOT my intention at all.

My point (and maybe i sucked at it. lol) was she's tired your tired. I understand that. As far as the comment of you should be use to so little sleep?

Well, ironically, fdh needs to remind me of that too. That he DOESN'T get use to it. EVER. It's just something he HAS to do. Yes like you, he can function on 5 hours of sleep. I can for a few days then I practically fall over. So in defense of myself and your wife, we forget sometimes. We see you do it day in and day out, we forget that you are running on FUMES most of the time. We forget that just because you CAN do it doesn't mean that you WANT to do it.

I forget, and when i am tired, i forget even more. Wink

stepmomto3bioto1's picture

I have so much empathy for you!! I've been there & it's so very tiring & hard!!!

My little girl is now 8. She's growing in leaps & bounds and is such an amazing little girl :)!! However, when she was a newborn & up until 8 looooooong mos old-- she had the worse case of Colic ya ever did see!! Poor kiddo didn't sleep but literally every other hour (at the most). That was one of the most trying times of my existence let me tell ya!! Here I was a new inexperience mama to a beautiful screeming baby!!! Oh Lord, I had moments I thought I wasn't going to make it!!! Sleep deprivation does some crazy crazy things to a sane persons mind!!!

I was on only 6 wks of maternity leave. My (now ex) hubs at the time flat out could not handle her screaming bits for longer then a half hour tops & frankly his mom was useless in the help dept as well. I was completely flying solo!! I did ok for the first 4 wks or so Then life kinda became a big blur of endless nights up walking around with my little bundle of joy as it was the only thing that stopped her blood curdling screams. It was horrible!!!!!!!!

During this time, my hubs slept peacefully in our bedroom without me (with earplugs in). I was furious. I was hurt. I was downright doing it all on my own. It was hard getting maybe collectively 3-4 hrs sleep a day. When id beg him with very tear filled eyes to help me, he'd lie & promise to take over for me that night-- yet he'd play this cat & mouse game of "I have to work-- do it yourself". Honestly I had nights & days that I literally wanted to kill him!!! I thought we planned this baby, & tried for 4 yrs to have her--- and now he threw me to the wolves when I really needed him. To tell you the truth- it did a ton of damage to the marriage. This continued on until one very amazing night when she was about 8 mos old. She simply stopped the colic one fateful night & started sleeping. Albeit only 4 hr stretches at night-for years- but he'll, I'll take it!!! Lol

I swear on my life- even tho my DD is now 8-- the kid is by far the Worst sleeper out there!! She still doesn't sleep much. Nobody can figure out why. At best she will sleep maybe 3-4 hrs then wake up & it takes the poor kiddo an hour or more to get back to sleep. She only manages about 7-8 hrs sleep Max a night. Most nights 6. My ex- hubs solution? Put her in bed with him. That only makes matters worse for me on my end. But I cannot control what he does.

My point here is this. Your wife gave birth to your wonderful baby & it sounds like she is starting to really struggle now with the lack of sleep. I know it has to be hard on both of you!!!! Even tho she's a stay at home mommy- all people only function on poor sleep for only so long. Yes, you DO need proper sleep since you work outside the home- ohhhhh but trust me, she works all day & all night with your baby, her son & the household.

Why not propose a "plan" with her? Try alternating nights for just a bit with her? That way each of you can get some proper rest? Try talking to her-- but plz be careful about the "I work" thing with her. She has a newborn to take care of all day & all night. It's one hell of a "job" too!!

Btw- congrats!!!! Try to give your wife off a couple nights. In return shell give you the same. It's all about compromise!!! & "this too shall pass". Hopefully sooner rather then later!! Wink

Trying Daily's picture

Yeah, I totally didn't mean for it to come off that way "I work, she doesn't"... what I meant is sleep is something we both need and I was upset by the "you should be used to it comment. I love time with my daughter, I want to give my wife a break. Believe me. I'm actually really grateful I did this blog thing rather than say something to her this morning- its obvious I wouldn't have said what I wanted to say, what I meant, properly and it would have justifiably upset her and caused a fight.

herewegoagain's picture

And would this have much to do with the reason she was a single parent to begin with? Just wondering.

There's no reason a baby at 3 months should wake up so much. Go get the Secrets of the Baby Whisperer book...it is great! My son actually had stomach issues among other things and he still slept pretty well during the night.

Sorry, I think what she is doing is extremely unreasonable. While I was a stay at home mom, which was only 2 1/2 months after my baby was born and I had a c-section, I never woke up my husband at night for any reason, as I knew he was working and I had the rest of the day to rest when the baby slept. I don't understand it. Yes, being a SAHM is sometimes frustrating, as we do get lonely, etc...but other than that, there is no way that with all the hours you work so that she can be a SAHM she should be complaining so much.

You really need to sit down and agree on some type of schedule for each of you. If you are barely home and sleep less hours, she MUST take that into account. If she doesn't, sorry to tell you, she is pretty selfish.

DeeDeeTX's picture

different kids have different needs. Small, premature babies are going to wake up more because their tummies are smaller. Plus, if the baby is breast fed, breast milk digests a lot quicker than formula. I know all the "books" said my child should be sleeping thru the night at three months or so and I was driving myself crazy wondering why my DD wasn't.

I talked to my pedi and he said because she was small and breasted she NEEDED those extra wake ups because she needed the extra food. If I had forced her to sleep thru the night I might've been slowing her development.

I don't think we should take this woman to task because her baby doesn't sleep through the night yet....we don't know her circumstances OR her baby, and I think it's a little presumptuous.

Trying Daily's picture

No, actually she was a single parent to begin with because she was young and idealistic and got pissed at her ex for driving home from a friends house with their son drunk and he beat the hell out if her for it.

Which is exactly why he doesn't get out if his car when he picks up/drops off ss. Don't give me a reason. I'll take it.

DeeDeeTX's picture

DH worked full time and went to school when we had two under two and the oldest didn't sleep all the way thru the night let alone the youngest.

I did all the nighttime wake ups because my husband said he couldn't fall asleep at work. I don't want to say he NEVER helped, but it was maybe 15% of the time.

At the end of two months like that, I literally wanted to strangle my husband. I loathed looking at him and actively started to hate him. I begged him to take some time off school...he wouldn't. I begged him to take more vacation days. He wouldn't.

You are 100% right that in your line of work, if you have to be awake and alert, she should take care of the baby. But being right isn't going to stop your wife from hating you as she gets up for the fifth time while you're snoozing away.

Take time off, take a break from school, if you can to help your wife. It's just probably for the next two months or so.

If you can't do any of that, find the money to hire a babysitter to come in twice a week or so for four hours to watch the baby while wife takes a nap.

You just need something to help both of you get thru the next few months or so. Then things should settle down.

Trying Daily's picture

OK, as I replied back to one post already, I'm VERY glad I voiced this in a blog rather than say it to my wife this morning because its obvious I didn't say what I wanted to say, it didn't come out right, and this would have justifiably upset her and caused a fight.

I WANT to take care of our daughter. I get frustrated being away as often as I am, seeing "firsts" only through pics and vids, etc... I WAS NOT meaning to say my wife should do it all and I should get to sleep all night. Absolutely not.

Like many of you said, I think her and I need to develop a plan or schedule or whatever. She'll be all for it, I know. It was just the "you should be used to not getting sleep" comment that upset me this morning, and nowthat I have vented, I realize it was 3 in the morning, she was tired, she probably didn't mean it that way.

So thank you.

Our daughter slept through the night from the time we brought her home until just a couple weeks ago. She may have woke up once during the night to nurse a couple times a week, but that was it. She is a wonderful baby.

My wife said when she was pregnant that when I got up to go to work our daughter would start kicking a and somersaulting and just get really active; that she was going to be daddy's girl and that would be daddy/daughter time after she was born. She is definitely daddy's girl. We are wondering though if she's fighting sleep so much because she learned that when she goes to sleep at night, daddy won't be there when she wakes up. I can't put her down for a nap, she will not go to sleep and just starts screaming. My wife can though. Sunday, I didn't work, so when she woke up in the morning my wife woke me as well and laid her next to me in bed. You could see it in her dace- "Wait... DADDY'S HERE!!!"... it literally brought us both to tears. It makes me sad that I can't get to a point that I can get up that extra half hour to twenty minutes early to spend time with her before work. My condition raged out of control for years before I could get anyone; my parents when I was younger and various doctors in adulthood to believe me. Its being managed now, but its only been a few months and we're tweaking it to optimize my quality of life. Its still an absolute task for me to get out of bed. Until my meds kick in I have a hard time walking, talking, standing, staying awake, anything...

I want to make this as easy and enjoyable for the both of us as possible. I pamper my wife. Seriously. Even she will tell you that. Once I'm home, she doesn't have to do anything. If she's already got dinner going I set the table and I clean up. If she doesn't, I make dinner set the table and clean up. Then I do whatever she needs done, since we also just moved there's lots of unpacking, cleaning, rearranging, etc... then when we call it quits for the night she gets her beck or shoulders or back or legs or feet rubbed...

Like I said, I adore her and admire her. She does more than I ever expect and its still not enough for HER.

newbiemommy's picture

I sympathize with BOTH of you. I understand her late night "I can't take this. He should be up to". I have a 15 month old that I strictly breastfed. The fact of the matter is she really SHOULD not be waking you up. I know its hard in the middle of the night exhausted and frustrated but I dont think getting you up too is ok. This coming from a SAHM. One thing I would like to suggest is possibly getting baby on a schedule. I know every baby is different and some don't sleep well ect. I know with nursing the temptation is to just nurse when they get fussy but perhaps she is training her wrong. Babywise is a great book I used as a guideline. I don't think theres always an exact answer for any kid, but if your daughter is turning nursing into a play time you will both be frustrated for months to come. She should be giving you guys a good stretch of sleep. Now before anyone thinks Im telling you to let your daughter cry it out or go hungry, my daughter never once has had to cry it out. I know a lot of nursing moms who end up frustrated responding to an on demand style parenting. A child-led schedule might work wonders in giving your wife a bit of her sanity back. I know this is sucha rough time for her.

Trying Daily's picture

OK, I see where I did it now... that last paragraph of the original post, where I said that I hate that its expected of me...

I didn't mean that I hate that its expected of me to be a parent and husband. I love that part.

I guess I hated the comment about how I should be used to not getting sleep. That's all. Yes, I am more than capable of getting up and changing diapers or giving a bottle or rocking. I have, and I truly love it. When my daughter smiles at me through her sleepy face, as you all know, its worth it.

It was just that comment, and the context I attached to it of "well you've been tired for 25 years, why shouldn't I sleep since you're used to it' that upset me. That's why I said I'm glad I blogged about this first. I'm sure that's not what my wife intended, and just as you can say things you don't mean because you're tired or say it the wrong way, I'm sure you can hear things the wrong way and make them mean what they weren't intended to mean.

But I just found out that I get to go home after 8 hours today with no work this weekend, so I'm going to go home and enjoy my wife and kids. I already knew I wasn't working Sunday so I was going to let my wife sleep in while I got up with our daughter, now she gets two days if she wants. Or who knows, maybe our daughter will wake up to nurse and want to go back to sleep and we can all sleep in!!!