we had words fri night before the boys got here and I think he FINALLY understood that it wasn;t about ss16 braking the mirror or getting the ticket really. But more about his actions i.e. not telling us he got it and not telling us that ne 'might' have hit something with the expedition. Then him telling his mom that he will not come here and work it off.

It was more of the disrespect than anything. Dh even accused me of being selfish in the fact aht I wanted my car cleaned out which was why i was pushing for him to be punished. :jawdrop:

I was LIVID! Whatever I had to go to work so i left!

i came home and sat morn dh said he had a HUGE talk with ss16 and he still wasn't getting it so he got frustrated just as i was. So dh got it finally after having to deal with him himself. He made him clean out the expedition inside and out. Of course ss16 HAD to throw in that he would clean out my car IF he got to dive it a neighboring town 30 mins away! I said NO!

So thankfully dh got his head outta his ass and realized that ss16 was pushing the limit and needed to be put back in his place!