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Never thought I would say this ..... I like Dr Phil ....... Today's topic ...... Paternity Fraud

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Submitted by Rags on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 8:59pm

Today Dr. Phil's show was on Paternity Fraud.

Very interesting.

My thoughts: Women who "knowingly" saddle a man with someone else's child are guilty of fraud, should be imprisoned for 3yrs for each year that they extort money from the victim dad, forced to pay full restitution to the man they extorted money from including penalties and interest, loose custody to the man who has acted as the child's father and be prevented from all future interface with the child except at the discretion of the defrauded father.

Definition of "knowingly": Failure to notify the "boyfriend/DH of the moment" that the child may not be his and to disclose all paternity candidates by the birth date of the child if there is any intent to seek public assistance, child support or remain in a relationship with the "BF/DH of the moment".

Conversely, men who refuse to support children that they know are biologically theirs should be subject to similar penalties.

"Dads" who are victimized by extortionist breeders should be forgiven all financial liability for children not their genetic progeny, reimbursed for all expenses with penalties and interest by the extortionist as well as get free decision on keeping the child as their own while receiving CS from the extortionist.

Of course Phil was indignant at the "mother" who defrauded the "father" but in the end let the "ladies" off the hook by saying "the child comes first, before the money and before the adults" which in other words was a big old "tough shit" to the defrauded dads and keeps the men on the hook financially for children who are not their responsibility to finance and lets the extortionist continue to role in CS money.

Interesting factoid from a panelist: Out of more than 300,000 men tested for paternity in the US each year >30% are NOT the father of the child. If you consider the millions of men who are not tested but nailed for CS each year that puts the number of men who are being defrauded by the system fairly close to the number of men who willfully fail to support their known children.

I was grinding my teeth through the whole 20mins of the show that I watched.

I was pissed at the extortionist moms and I was pissed at all of the deadbeat biodads (though not a subject of the show) who do not support their kids.

Yes, the kids are victims in this situation but no less so than the defrauded dads.

All IMHO of course.

Comments

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Submitted by Tx mommy of 3 on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 9:44pm

I agree there should be laws to prevent this from happening. I also think there should be laws preventing women from keeping a child a secret then coming around years later wanting child support. I think there needs to be a time frame where the bm needs to be responsible and notify the birth dad & if the bm doesn't notify the bd hen she forfeits her right to cs. I've jut known a few people where this has happened to them- 10+ years later they found out they had a kid they didn't know about and have to pay cs PLUS back pay.

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Submitted by NCMilGal on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 5:42am

Some of the state paternity laws are outrageous.

In Louisiana, for example, all of the paternity laws assume that the mother is married. Don't make me laugh! The laws state that the child is the offspring of either her former husband or her new husband, nothing else. Our BM got knocked up while dragging the divorce out, so the state assumes that DH is the father of her younger brat. Despite denying paternity WITH DNA proof and BM going after her son's father for CS (he skipped town and is truly a deadbeat) DH had to officially sign away his parental rights when BM's husband wanted to adopt the boy. I am sincerely glad that FOR ONCE DH was proactive in getting that DNA test and refuting paternity, because if he hadn't, BM could have nailed him for CS after the boy was 1 year old even though he was born 6 months after the divorce was final, and over 2 years after they legally separated.

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Submitted by SisterNeko on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 7:17am

Unlucky Lady - I agree! There are so may untruthful people in the world. But you know some 'dads' freak out when you bring up testing. I know My BF does. He is like no they are mine, but it's like for a guy how do you really know? For a woman it's easy because we carry it so of course it's our baby. I told him I would have tested both kids the minute she said 'divorce'. One to make sure they were his and two to make sure she didn't try to say they weren't his.

I understand that even if they weren't his when they were married he would have to help with them but if they turned out to not be his I think BM should have to pay back all the support since the divorce was finalized.

I am pretty Sure they are his, the little one looks just like him, but the other one looks just like his BM. But that doesn't mean they are just watch the reruns of Maury. Smile

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Submitted by alwaysanxious on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 8:26am

"Out of more than 300,000 men tested for paternity in the US each year >30% are NOT the father of the child."

Very interesting! I didn't watch this, but..

SO and I had a conversation about this last night. He has wondered if his kids are his (She was promiscuous a few times during their marriage). He told me he has thought about it, but doesn't want to know. The consequences would be too great at this point. I think they look like him so I don't think he has anything to worry about, but I can see why he would.

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Submitted by overit2 on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 8:48am

I thought GA may had changed the laws already to includ paternity fraud-where the guy can stop paying support if it's proven he's not the father?

My bf is only months away from seeing an attorney and getting the court approved dna test-he already knows the results...he just hasn't been ready to deal w/the inevitable fallout, but he's almost there.

These women should pay a VERY HIGH price. Problem is, no state will be rushed to defend the dads, why would they? The burden of financial help will be dumped on the states if they can't locate the true biodads....so if it's anything that could cause them to "lose money" they will cite the "best interest of the child" and keep on screwing over innocent men.

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Submitted by kajunmeow on Fri, 08/12/2011 - 4:30am

Yea my ex apparently told his wife that he knew nothing of the child not being his. He even told the lawyer that and lied under oath. Truth is, he raised the child knowingly for 6 years as his own and stateted he never had anything to do with the child. Funny last I thought, taking child to games, park, school, sitting on laps feeding them, hugging them, kissing booboos, etc,, etc,, were fatherly things a dad does. I even have pics to prove his lies....

:sick: So yeah, 6 yrs of raising child as his own, knowingly minus a few months of being remarried and new wife finding out equals== booting out the child.... Some woman there!!!

Gotta be a REAL WOMAN to make a man give up a child he loves, she should be so proud. Gotta be a bigger woman to keep his other kids from seeing their brother, mother, and family. OR SHOULD I SAY LACK THERE OF!!!! :sick: