Am I wrong if I say no?
I live w/my SO, my bio son 18 and SD12 & SS9 (they are with us every other week). Their BM has always been off her rocker. She's called me all sorts of names and physically attacked my SO in public. She intimidates me as much as possible. She's called the house several times complaining about me. ETC... ETC... ETC... You get the point. Now, BM is getting a new job (she was fired from her last one and hasn't had another one in months) and she has asked my SO if she can drop the kids off at our house every weekday morning (on her weeks) before school so they can ride the bus from our house. She chose to move out of the kids' school district years ago.
I look SOOOO forward to my "peaceful week" and I really, really don't want to do this. My question is, am I an evil person if I say no? I don't care what BM thinks, but am I being evil to my SO if I say no? Honestly, my opinion here is, she's never been anything but evil to me and has terrorized me for 3 years now, why in hell should I do her a favor so she doesn't have to pay for before school care? Especially since it would take away the only peace I get in my life???
Okay, let me have it...am I evil?
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Okay, I will probably get
Okay, I will probably get hazed for this but I agree with you. I don't blame you for wanting some peace and quiet on the weeks you and DH usually have free.
BUT, unfortunately the decision will ultimately be up to DH. Since they are his kids, it will be up to him to decide what he wants to do. Of course as his wife and partner I would let him know your feelings and opinion on the subject, but in the end it will be him who decides if he wants to take your thoughts into consideration.
No, I don't think you are evil. I think you are human!
Actually, we are not married.
Actually, we are not married. However, I guess I don't feel like the decision should be up to him since it doesn't affect him on a daily basis - he would leave the house prior to them being there. I am the one who would have to make sure they get breakfast and get out the door on time.
Oh, deff a big fat F that
Oh, deff a big fat F that then! in that situation since you would be the one to take it on, if you don't want to then stay firm on your no. It's not your responsibility BM and SO need to find a way that works with them and not try to pin that on you.
You are definitely not wrong.
You are definitely not wrong. I'd change my mind if you had said their dad would be responsible for them in the morning, but since he's not...NO!
I don't think it matters what BM has done to you in the past...you have every right to set your boundaries at your comfort level.
No, you have a right to your
No, you have a right to your routine in the morning, especially if you would be the one stuck dealing with getting them ready and out the door. You need to tell him pronto, before he winds up agreeing to it, to keep the peace between them.
I wouldn't. I mean if it was
I wouldn't. I mean if it was an occasional morning maybe. But having to go out of your way for them- nope. Not evil or mean IMO. If dh would be the one watching them then ok. You'll have to talk to bf and tell him how you feel. Or have a trial period and set rules. Kids will not be fed breakfast at your house and must arrive already fed and ready for school. They also must be ready to leave at the certain time. Try it for a week or whatever and if it isn't working then sorry. Then again that might open the door to her continuing to leave hem anyway. Yeah, I wouldn't.
Naaahhhh....you don't need to
Naaahhhh....you don't need to take that responsibility. That's the father's and mother's problem. If you start making their problems YOUR problem, you're gonna end up being eaten alive. I'm sorry to be so negative, but I have found in my experience so far, that being nice and selfless, leaves you bitter and resentful.
Start by saying no, because it's easier! My advice: if you share the bills in that home with your BF, you need to think of your own comfort and how much of it you're willing to negotiate. I would definitely not take the responsibility; that's something mom and dad need to figure out, but you will be impacted, so be ready.
If you let it happen and it bothers you, you can't say anything because you let it happen. If you oppose to it, you may be revered a royal bitch. Pick your poison.
Make sure the BM pays you,
Make sure the BM pays you, every week in advance, what it would cost her to put them in a before-school program. Wah. Honestly, I don't like it when people try to put their responsibility off on someone else. I work, as does DH, so every day my daughter goes to the before- and after-school program. I certainly wouldn't ask/expect ANYONE to take care of her in my stead just so I wouldn't have to pay for her care. You have kids, you take care of them. This is BM's situation to fix, not yours.
***LIKE***
***LIKE***
Thanks for all of the back up
Thanks for all of the back up on this. I feel better. Yes, I pay half of our bills and I do feel I should have a say so because it only affects me if they do come. There is a before and after school care program available, BM just doesn't want to pay for it. She has season tickets to her favorite NFL Team and drives 3 hours away to go to every home game, financially she will be fine. Quite frankly, had she been even halfway civil to me over the last 3 years, I would consider it...but, she hasn't. She has terrorized me every chance she gets. She talks about me to the kids and even the waitress at Pizza Hut for God's sake.
I feel I do more than my part on a regular basis, I don't want to take this on too. An example is, my SO has to be out of town for work on a regular basis (3 nights this week) and while he's gone, I take care of the kids - including running them to all of their activities that I don't have a say in whether or not they sign up for. So, my life is very much affected by other people's decisions, I don't want to give up my free week for a woman who would torture me forever if given the chance.
Thank you for your thoughts on the subject!
i've got to admit, as the
i've got to admit, as the actual mother to two boys from a previous *ack* relationship, it is not my husband's or any other living family member in the household's responsibility to take babysitting duties. fastest way to set me off is for their father to drop them off when i am not home. especially when he comes off the court ordered time. all the father has to do is call me if he is dropping off the kids early so i can arrange to be home. worst case scenario, i ASK my husband if he can be there and i'll come home right away.
i wouldn't do it. say no. say no.
i ask my husband from time to time. but if he says no, then i have to work around that. it won't kill me. i just have to think out of the box.
just one issue, klynn, that popped up. maybe husband to be, might want to hint at mom that her not being able to get the kids to school everyday in a timely manner in the school district they are in, might be a change in stability. which is a good change of circumstance. for a change in custody. that'll get her thinking to take care of this on her own. *wink wink*
I'm with you. I had to do a
I'm with you. I had to do a double take, LOL
I agree with the others. my
I agree with the others. my bm has said over and over that I am nothing to the boys and they have a mom and dad and I'm not it. If that had happened to me I'd be regurgitating that back to her.
I am not their parent so why are you expecting me to take on a responsibility of a parent? Don;t do it.
You don't have to do anything
You don't have to do anything for the kids, especially if BM has the resources to have the kids go to a before/after school program.
you and their father did not make the choice for the biological mother to take a job that would interfere with the children's schedule. If the BM chose this job, she should have made provisions to accommodate the children. Otherwise she should have taken a different job.
The innocent children suffer when we make excuses not to be responsible adults.
BTDT, the BM has to work so
BTDT, the BM has to work so SD got off the bus at my house for a year. We weren't married and she wanted her to go home where someone was there. Because I work from home, it became me. It was fine, I worked and she and my son did their homework. I insisted on DH getting her if he got off work and take her to his house and BM could pick up there. Now fast forward two years and BM is making my life hell and doesn't recognize that I did her favors all this time. I am done doing things for her. I will no longer let the kids come here sick on her time. Nothing. Be cautious, this will affect your life not your DH's. Just say no. No good deed goes unpunished.
@ Shootingstars"You wouldn't
@ Shootingstars"You wouldn't be doing it for the BM. You'd be doing it for the kids. Honestly, if your DH is okay with it, I don't really think you'd be right in saying no."
The SK's would benefit how by spending more time with the evil SM. SM will be the one inconvienced by this favor as I read it the only person benefiting is BM who gets outa paying for childcare. OP states BM has been beyond horrible to her for 3 yrs SM should do favors for her why?
Thank you IAMTRYIN for asking
Thank you IAMTRYIN for asking Shootingstars the questions that popped into my head as well. How would I not be "right" in saying no? Their BM should be putting them first, I have my own Bio to put first. I did not choose to move out of my child's school district while he was too young to drive himself to school. I did not choose to be evil to the other woman in MY child's life. I take the high road so often with BM just to keep the peace and my sanity. However, sometimes I feel like we should all have to deal with the consequences of our actions and if we choose to be evil to someone for no reason, eventually we should expect it to come back and bite us in the ass. IMO
no you would not be wrong!! i
no you would not be wrong!! i would say no and would not feel bad about it in the least! it's your decision since you are the one taking care of them should you choose to agree to it. that's your time. if dh wants to agree to it then he should stay home and take care of them, imo.
I would do it for my skids in
I would do it for my skids in a heartbeat if I could. However if I didn't necessarily have a great relationship with the kids, I might not. I do agree this would be for the kids benefit and not BMs, but ultimately of course it is not your responsibility to take care of them!
I'm a big believer in letting
I'm a big believer in letting go of outcomes.
You know the whole "If I do this, then X, Y, Z might happen..."
When it comes to BM, I don't reward good behavior and I don't punish the bad. She gets no reaction out of me. I don't base any of her past behavior on any decision I make.. hoping that she'll be nicer or showing how she needs to suffer for all the slights against me.
I just float down the proverbial river and don't base anything I do based on the oncoming storm that she is. For I have no control over it.
If you don't want to watch the kids in the morning? Don't.
If you don't mind at all (which you said you really didn't right?)? Then do it.
Me personally? I do exactly what you speak of because that's what I do as a mother... as a stepmother... as a person. It's not a big deal to me and I never expect anything in return because my stepkids' mom is the most entitled, self serving creature you'd ever meet.
I just don't give a shit anymore.
Do whatever you think is right and makes you happy and makes you comfortable... and let go of all that comes from that decision.
Klynn's Quote: "I live w/my
Klynn's Quote: "I live w/my SO, my bio son 18 and SD12 & SS9 (they are with us every other week). Their BM has always been off her rocker. She's called me all sorts of names and physically attacked my SO in public. She intimidates me as much as possible. She's called the house several times complaining about me. ETC... ETC... ETC..."
I find it interesting that NOW klynn is an actual person NOW that BM needs assistance? No way. I mean what would BM do if Klynn was not there and Dad had already went to work? She would get child care, that's what. I mean we Steps are certainly here to abuse and then accomodate when something is required all i the name of "for the kids". (dripping w/sarcasm) :O
NO way don't do it! First of
NO way don't do it! First of all, before school child care will certainly not hurt the kids so don't feel guilty. They may prefer not to go but they will certainly be well cared for and can probably get breakfast there. From my experience, when you do nice things like this it only comes back to bite you! Either BM will start asking more and more of you to convenience her or one day (lets say this job doesn't work out) she will FREAK OUT on you about something horrible you did one morning (her week) and you will be left angry and resentful. Sorry to be a downer but DONT DO IT.
I agree with tofurky. That
I agree with tofurky. That is a big ol' F that! LOL.
Just say you are uncomfortable being put in that position by someone who has ZERO respect for you.
I dont think youd be evil at
I dont think youd be evil at all if you said no. If thats what you want then thats what you want and its not wrong. I will say, though, that if you take the kids, document it and then file for temp. custody, you will get it and you might have to deal with bm a lot less. Dunno if thats something youd want at all, but for me id rather have less psycho bm and more skids. just my thoughts.
I dont mean to be rude, but
I dont mean to be rude, but im lost... what are you talking about?
I understand and respect your
I understand and respect your comment, but I need to clarify something here. I am not married to my SO, I am NOT a step parent. I have not chosen that route. He wants me to marry him and due to the fact that I'm not 100% sure that I can live with the BM being in my life forever, I have told him repeatedly that I am not ready and don't know if I ever will be.
And actually, I would either charge her for the extra food that we had to buy or make her feed them before she brought them. The reason I would do this is because my SO has to pay child support to this woman AND he pays for half of everything AND we have the kids 50% of the time. I feel that if there is 50/50 custody, there should be no child support changing hands. IMO
I have no desire to go back to court to fight for custody, neither does my SO. I guess I'm questioning why she would choose to buy a new townhome out of her children's school district when there are TONS of new townhomes in the kid's district. It's not like she moved in with someone and they already lived out of the district. She and her BF chose to move out of the district.
Honestly, I think I've decided against doing this. It will stress me out and I have alot of things on my plate that have to do with me and my Bio son. I have a new job and I'm also an independent consultant for a direct sales company, my son's starting college, etc... If I take this on, it's not fair to my son and it's not fair to me. Usually I'm a person that tries to do what's best for other people, I guess on this one, I've decided to do what's best for me. I'm good with that.
Honestly, I think I've
Honestly, I think I've decided against doing this. It will stress me out and I have alot of things on my plate that have to do with me and my Bio son.
Good decision. Let BM lie in the bed she made when she set the boundaries that excluded you as a caretaker. She can't have it both ways.
Given that 1. DH will not be
Given that 1. DH will not be involved in any way in the proposed morning routine with your steps 2. BM has been aggressive and unpleasant and this would increase your exposure to her 3. There are perfectly reasonable morning childcare options at school which BM can afford 4. BM created the situation by moving away from the school and 5. You are not married to DH and have explicitly not adopted the role of step parent, I think you are absolutely justified in saying no. To say yes would lead to a lot of resentment which would be much more damaging to your relationship with your BF and his children.