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Kids are not disciplined @ BioMom's house

bjmoore17's picture

I am not married yet, but I have a wonderful man that I am dating and he happens to have three children. We had his 6 year old son this weekend and he wasn't so bad, but all of his kids are so ill mannered. They don't know how to behave at the table at all. They basically do not listen to anything and they throw fits when they don't get their way, not to mention the whining EVERY time they ask...no wait...demand for something.
My bf looks to me for guidance because I minored in psychology in college, with my main focus on child developmental psychology. He is really lost when it comes to disciplining the kids and apparently, their mother doesn't do it at all.
I have written about this a few times already, but for some reason, I just can't help but to post something new every time I can't get something out of my head. I guess writing and reading what others have to say helps clear my mind.
Since this past Sunday was Father's Day, I kind of figured all three kids would be up to stay with their father. However, only the 6 yr old boy came. We took him and my son to a football game and they had a good time. My bf had to go to work at 2 a.m. and he was going to wake up 6 yr old and take him to his grandmother's house. That was totally out of the question for me, just leave him with me, it was no problem. The boy got up around 7:30 and my son continued to sleep a while. I fixed him some breakfast to which he was offered gravy and biscuits, scrambled eggs and an apple with milk. I asked him if he would eat all of it and he said yes. I fixed myself a plate and sat down with him to eat. He then decides that he only wants the biscuit and gravy and started to get up from his seat and do whatever the hell he wanted. I told him to sit back down and finish his breakfast, then he could play. You would have thought I was torturing this child by the way he acted. He pretended to gag to the point where he almost threw up. He said he didn't like eggs or apples, even though he said he would eat them. I refused to allow him up from the chair until he finished his breakfast. I told him that eggs had protein for building strong muscles and apples helped build strong bones and would keep him from having to go to the doctor and he ended up eating everything on his plate and actually stopped fake gagging.
I know he doesn't get taught any table manners at home, so I took the opportunity to teach him a lesson. He chews with his mouth open, puts way to much food in his mouth to begin with and makes a total mess. He also talks with his mouth full and disregards any other conversations at the moment. He is constantly interrupting while others are talking and I am so sick of it. My bf is always telling him and his sisters to quit, stop, sit down, don't and it drives me nuts!
Since I had 6 yr old alone, he was very responsive to what I was trying to teach him. He even demonstrated the proper way to chew food with your mouth closed and I praised him for that. I think since he is younger than the girls, there is still hope for him to turn up with good manners.
When my bf got home from work around 10 a.m., he asked if he ate any breakfast and I told him what he ate and he was amazed. He said whenever he fixes stuff like that, he won't eat it. I told him that he sat at the table and ate everything because I wouldn't let him up until he finished. He was amazed at that as well. I told him, you just have to be firm and don't give in, no matter how crazy it makes you to enforce your word.
I had told 6 yr old to stay off of my elliptical machine. It is a $500 piece of exercise equipment and I don't want it broken by a 95 pound 6 yr old kid. He asked me one time if he could get on it, but he is just too rough with it. He gets on one side and almost tipped it over on himself one time. He jumps on it too. It makes me angry because I paid for it and I use it all the time and I don't want it broken. So, anyway, he asked if he could get on it again and I AGAIN told him no. Well, when Dad walks through the door, he thinks its ok to get on it. Like I'm not going to say anything in front of his dad, but I will and I did. His little ass was off of that thing faster than he could blink. My bf was like, "you don't want him on it?" (because he had been on it once before, when he almost tipped it over) and I told him no and why I don't want him on it and he was fine with it and spanked him when he tried to get back on it again. They just don't listen. If I tell you once, I mean it every time, not just this time. Geez.
I think the girls will be another story. The 8 yr old is starting to get a smart mouth and the 14 yr old is stubborn and doesn't want to do anything she is told to do. She makes her own rules at mom's house and mom lets her run the show. That's what she is used to, but Dad's going to have to lay down the law and show her that she is still a child and basically has no say in what goes on.
Does anyone else have these discipline problems in their home with their step children? I'm sure its a common problem, but any suggestions for teenage girls would be appreciated. I don't know how we are supposed to form them into well mannered children when their mother let's them run like feral dogs.

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bjmoore17's picture

:jawdrop: My bf's son is the same way! Very overweight and a fast food junkie, courtesy of his mother. OMG, what is her problem? Doesn't she realize fast food is BAD? Guess not, but when this kid has to have a cardiac cath at the ripe old age of 10, she'll wonder what happened.

bjmoore17's picture

I wouldn't have forced him to eat all of the food if he was obviously full and had given a good effort to try to eat. Sometimes, in restaurants, they put way too much food on a kids plate and its out of the question to ask them to eat it all, but I only put small amounts on his plate and I've seen this kid eat 2 whole Big Mac's, so I knew one scrambled egg and a half of an apple wouldn't kill him. He's just not used to eating healthy food. He wanted greasy McDonald's for breakfast and that's just not an option at my home. The eggs were scrambled with organic fat free milk and I use Smart Balance oil with omega3. The apple was also organic. These kids are so unhealthy, they are always sick and missing school. If they would eat better, they would be more healthy.
It just ran right through me that he said he wanted it, I went to the trouble of preparing it and then he said he doesn't want it. I do my son the same way. If he says he wants something, I fix it and then he doesn't eat it, I get a little pissed. I don't have all day to stay in the kitchen.

bjmoore17's picture

That's a good suggestion. I know I wouldn't like to be outdone by someone else in regards to raising my son. Even though their biomom is basically a loser in my eyes, she's still their mother and i'm sure she'll have something to say about her son having manners taught to him or anything else I do. She has something to say to their father about everything. She once told him that if he couldn't see the kids without me, then don't come at all. Well...that didn't work out. We basically just laughed that off. I really think she feels threatened by my presence around her kids. She is a drug addict (pills) and has no control over her children and she knows this, but won't admit it.
We had the kids at a school carnival a few months ago and they apparently went back and told their mother what a good time they had. That's when she called to tell him she didn't want the kids around me. He told her it wasn't her decision and hung up. The 8 yr old little girl couldn't get enough of me. She is starved for attention and held my hand the whole day, dragging me from booth to booth to play games and whatever. I'm guessing the mom has been hard at work to make 8 yr old hate me because she has changed her attitude towards me. Now, she barely speaks to me when she used to sit on my lap and talk my head off.
We are hoping they will get older and open their eyes to their mother's ways. In the mean time, we just continue to be ourselves and tell them the truth about everything.

bjmoore17's picture

Lord I hope you're right. I have the mentality that if we provide a structured environment, they will be more comfortable with us instead of never knowing where they are going to be from one minute to the next like with their mother.
She also needs to teach them the value of a $ because the kids think they are entitled to EVERYTHING. They think we are going to buy them something every time we go somewhere. Its just not going to happen. My son doesn't even ask for things anymore because he knows that if he's going to get something, I'll get it for him. The only time he asks for things are his birthday and Christmas. And even then, he doesn't ask for much. His birthday is next month and he asked for an Ipod. I was fine with that, but after seeing how much they cost, I told him to think of other options, so we started looking at the Sony brand and he is fine with that. However, he was worried that I wouldn't be able to get it for him since its about $100. He came up with a brilliant plan to save his birthday money and if he didn't get enough, I would make up the difference and get it for him. My bf's kids would never think of that. All they care about it what they're going to get and how they're going to get it.
If they throw a big enough fit (and I do mean FIT) or whine enough for something, it doesn't matter what it is, she'll get it for them. 6 yr old boy threw a fit in the driveway a month or so ago when we were picking him up. He grit his teeth, balled his fists up and let out a scream that could shatter glass until his mother gave into him. We didn't know what the hell was going on because we were in the car waiting on him, the girls were already in the car. Biomom came over to the car and said "If I give you $30 will you go get these wrestling gloves that he's been wanting over at WalMart? He's been throwing fits over this for days now." And my bf said "yes". I looked at him like "what did you just say?" But I didn't say anything because they're not my kids and its not really my place to discipline them, but after I saw this episode, I thought I might have to jump in and save the day somehow. When we got over to WalMart, I could sense my bf knew something was on my mind because I hadn't said anything since the fit. As soon as we walked in the door he said "Can you believe I agreed to do this?" I said "no" and then told him what I thought of the whole incident. He should have said "Hell no I'm not giving into him after the fit he just threw" and she would have walked off and made him look like the bad guy, but who cares. At least he's not the one giving in.

bjmoore17's picture

OMG! :jawdrop: We are hoping something happens soon for fear of her ruining the children. She is just a horrible mother and tries to make things better by buying the kids things. I gave her the benefit of the doubt at first, like not believing everything my bf had to say about her because there's always two sides to every story. But, I believe him now. She has proven herself to be what she is and we think its only a matter of time before she gets caught up in everything she does. (ie. embezzling money from the little league, drug usage, high credit card balances that she never pays on, etc...)

Rags's picture

There are no rules at SS's BioDad's or SpermGrandMa's either. That is why my 17yo son (SS) has the maturity of a 12yo.... IMHO.

He has been raised in home with impeccable table manners, opens the door for ladies and adults in general, yes ma'am/yes sir, no ma'am/no sir, etc.... He is raised the way my brother and I were raised.

Interestingly my brother's kids (neice and 2 nephews) used to have the crappiest table manners imaginable. My parents would mention it to my brother and SIL but nothing happened until one family dinner at mom and dad's when mom and dad told my neice and nephew to leave the table and not return until they could eat like polite human beings rather than animals. The kids were embarrassed, my SIL was offended and my brother was mortified. It took a few months before my SIL and the kids would go to mom and dad's for dinner but eventually they returned. My brother finally had to tell his wife that he was taking his kids and going to dinner at mom and dad's and that she was welcome to join him if she chose to.

Never again have my neice and nephew had anything less than impeccable table manners.

This incident has always puzzled me since my brother was raised as I was.

bjmoore17's picture

I know this topic is a few weeks old, but I thought I would update on it. BioMom took 14 yo daughter to get her belly button pierced without consulting with my bf. He got a little upset and told her that he should be consulted on these things too because he is her father. She told him that she doesn't have to ask his permission to allow "her" kids to do anything. Then he says "so you just let them keep doing whatever they want and we'll see if they respect you later on" She then replied with "they can do whatever they want whenever they want". She makes me sick...

stormabruin's picture

"they can do whatever they want whenever they want".
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BM's famous words. She tells DH that he needs to realize that skids 13 & 17 are individuals & that he needs to "respect their wishes".

His reply is "I realize skids 13 & 17 are individuals. I realize that they are UNDERAGE individuals. I realize I am their PARENT & that it's my responsibilty to TEACH them to make RESPONSIBLE choices. It is NOT my job to respect their wishes."