*Advice needed* but not on step parenting for once.. lol ;)
Ex and I have week on/week off shared parenting - which for the most part works.
Where it hasn't been working for the past 2 years is with regards to our 11 year old daughters school work.
Last year, our daughter began, for the first time in her life, to get bad grades in social studies. Since I was the only one checking the online "home access page" for her school, I noticed her grades slipping immediately, got to the root cause and worked with her teachers to fix it. It was basic note taking in class (something that as a 4th grader she had never done) and study skills.
On my weeks, I checked her notes every night to make sure they were complete and made sense - as well as helped her know what to look for and study in her notes to be prepared for her tests every week.
It was time consuming and some days I just did not feel like spending that hour with her going over notes about indian tribes, but it was my job as a parent.
My ex.. did none of this on his weeks. Didn't have time. Coached 6th grade football till 7:30 every night.. she was at the sitters after school till 5:30 - she was supposed to do it all then with the sitter as he only had time to cruise through a drive thru before dragging her to practice with him.. then it was toss her in the tub and to bed.
Her grades slipped every other week for quite a while and it drove me nuts!
I would email my ex about what he wasn't doing and how it was hurting our daughter.. he pretty much ignored it.
Now this year.. same crap, but on a higher level.
For the 3rd time this year (and it's only the 3rd month of the school year!!) she gets to my house to start her week and I look through her binder and there is a packet of homework that hasn't been touched. It's weekend homework that takes a couple hours to do and she got it on Friday! Not to mention the fact that he didn't sign her planner and Friday sheet until he was in my damn driveway!
Now, let me back up - I know the bulk of the responsibility is on my daughter - she isn't getting a free pass here. Nope. There are consequences for not knowing your work and when it is due. She does well in every other element and is a great kid - she just needs some help with planning and organization.
However... the ex gets the same nightly emails as I do from the teachers.. they list homework, assignments, tests and their corresponding dates. He also has access to her daily classwork and grades online. Does he check these? Obviously not.
It is our job to be the stop gap and teach our kids how to be organized and know their work..
I am so pissed because I can't make him parent.. and it sucks because it hurts our daughter and it stresses me the hell out!
I have sent him emails about this issue more times than I care to list. I even told both him and my daughter that "I'm not bailing you out anymore" - meaning if she shows up at my house with weekend homework that isn't done, I am not sitting down and spending my evening helping her get 2 days worth of work done in 3 hours (the time between his drop off and her bedtime - when I need to feed the family dinner and get her in the shower). She can just turn it in as incomplete, get her recess taken away and get an "F"..
Thoughts? Feedback?
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I would see if there are
I would see if there are tutors available through the school or surrounding high schools to help on the off weeks
Maybe it is time to change
Maybe it is time to change the custody schedule. It is only going to get harder and she will get further behind. If she isn't able to take full responsibility for her schooling and Dad is unwilling......tell him you will file for change of custody if he doesn't get his head out of his ass.
Wow, I sound like a mean, vindictive BM.
Maybe it is time to change
Maybe it is time to change custody. It is reasons like this, as I have stated before, that I don't think 50/50 works. You are doing everything you can but if your ex wont parent then you need change things up so he gets a standard every other weekend schedule.
Former and BVD offered some
Former and BVD offered some great suggestions try that route first. Although I think it is lazy on his part I don't think that is reason to change custody? That just strikes me as odd thinking sorry overworked.
Easier said than done. He
Easier said than done. He will fight for 50/50 and it's hard to get that changed without a pretty significant reason. I can't afford a huge legal custody battle.
I agree with what BVD is
I agree with what BVD is suggesting here. Talk to the teachers, let them know in case they're curious as to why the work slips every other week (I'm sure some of them care at least a little bit) and make your DD accountable for her work - if her dad won't do it, she's going to have to learn to be more responsible.
I have contacted the teachers
I have contacted the teachers and filled them all in. They are very helpful and are working with me.
I do speak to my daughter daily on his weeks, but unfortunately it's not until close to bedtime to say "goodnight".. but I always ask her about schoolwork, tests, etc. I try to call her earlier in the evening, but he doesn't answer his phone.
My ex has to sign a planner every week, but it's usually signed while in my DRIVEWAY dropping her off at 6pm.. doesn't go through her folders and check things.. nothing.
I have discussed the expectations with my daughter and she knows what she needs to do - the burden is on her.
I agree with you - to an
I agree with you - to an extent. It is our job to help them where they lack - in this case helping her get organized and plan. For the most part, she does it without any help, but we should be there to be the stop gap if she forgets or something falls through the cracks. In the case of my ex, things fall through the cracks all too often because he is too busy to parent. A simple "hey, do you have any weekend homework?" was all that was needed.
This is the first year of the planner and they are pushing independence - it's all new to her.
Since this is the case, I gave her a pass on the consequence, but if it happens again she will not get a pass.
She is still a kid and we are still the parent.. it is our job to teach and be there if they need help. I'm not managing her schedule, nor am I standing over her shoulder - only guiding and asking questions to help her remember what she needs to check. Her father does none of this.
I agree with addressing a
I agree with addressing a change in the custody schedule. Perhaps addressing it with your ex will be enough to encourage him to step up & do his part as a parent. If it isn't, follow through with the courts.
The habits your daughter forms now are the building blocks for her future. She HAS to learn work ethic. She has to learn self-discipline. She has to be encouraged & motivated to perform to the best of her ability now for better opportunities in her future.
SMS: The following letter, is
SMS:
The following letter, is framed and hanging on my office wall at home. A constant reminder to me of a lesson one very wise teacher taught me. (Paraphrased since I am not at home to copy it word for word). This email was in reply to an email I sent to the teacher, where in I expressed how MOTY I was, and my son's bad grades on a few assignments were due to his lack of studying/homework completion at his fathers house. I did CC my XH on the email.
Dear Ms. (Prior last name)
Starting on a positive I am thrilled to hear how far you are willing to go to ensure your son's academic success! It is always awesome to see/hear of an involved parent that is willing to go the extra mile, communicate with teachers and provide necessary structure at home to ensure a child's academic success.
In your email, which I appreciate you cc'ing to (my sons name)'s father, there was a long list of what you do, and what you schedule to ensure that (son) gets his assignments completed on time. I did not see a list of what (son) is doing to develop his own good study habits. It is my experience that children learn best from doing, hands on and being involved in the lesson. Having a schedule and routine can be helpful but if they are not involved themselves it leads to dependency on their parents.
I have tasked (son) with a homework assignment that you are not allowed to help him with. He is to write up his own plan of success and bring it to me by Friday (**Note this was on a week he was with his dad so there was nothing I could have done to help the kid- I think the teacher planned it that way IMHO***).
Again, thank you for your email and your interest in (son)'s education, I look forward to speaking with you in the future.
Best Regards,
Teacher
The very next email in my box was from my XH
(My Name)
What the teacher is telling you nicely, is to pop your tit out of the boys mouth and let him grow the fuck up. He is 10, not 2. He knows when he has homework, if he doesn't do it, ground his ass. Stop living the kids life for him and let him figure out how to do it on his own. He is going to fuck up. He is a kid. If you keep up the way you have been he is going to be 40 and living in your basement, not mine, and I will be mailing you weekly "I told you so" cards.
I know the email sounds mean. I am truly not trying to be crude, your a good mom, you think of everything which doesn't leave (son and daughter) any reason to have to think for themselves. While yeah, it's easier to do it for them, that doesn't mean it's best.
(XH name)
My initial reaction was one of being PYSSED and I immediately called MY DADDDY to vent.
Dad's words of wisdom?
"Go back and read the email again from (XH) this time change the voice in your head from his to mine. Then listen to it. Love you. Bye."
Love all this! I'm going to
Love all this!
I'm going to keep this in my back pocket for when SD visits. I have a funny feeling that since GUBM takes zero interest in SD's school work that FDH might go overboard or at least be manipulated into going overboard.
Oh man first time reading
Oh man first time reading that was not fun. I was FULL of righteous indignation how DARE he who did NOT help our child ensure his shit was handled DARE tell me anything. I had a FULL GUBM moment going..
After my dads comment yeah I went back and re-read it. And the old saying of the problem with pointing at another person is there are four fingers pointing back at you came to mind.
My son is a senior in college. Dating an older woman because he has the maturity to handle the relationship. His GPA in college last semester was a 3.89. His GPA in high school (weighted due to AP and honors classes) was a 4.35.
I laid off the kid that day. And by the end of the quarter he had a D. He was grounded from video games the entire next quarter until he could prove his grades were back up and he could do it on his own. He never got another D. He did not like the effect of bad grades, so he avoided the cause of the punishment.
Thank you for sharing... what
Thank you for sharing... what a great learning experience for you! Kudos for taking what happened and learning from it rather than just being mad and dismissive!
**Helicopter Mom raises hand
**Helicopter Mom raises hand in the room.**
I will have to confess that my BS15 is extremely dependent on me as far as school work goes. Unfortunately, I wasn't blessed with a girl, who by all accounts seem to be WAY better at organization and being self motivated than boys are.
I HAVE taken a few steps back because I KNOW deep down that I DO need to let him figure it out on his own & that if I don't step back, he will be up shits creek without a paddle in college.
My son has ADHD as well and his organizational skills are almost non-existant. He gets easily frustrated and flustered when he doesn't understand something. He also is lazy to boot when it comes to academics and loses focus quite rapidly.
He goes to private school and it is WAY harder than public school so the pressure is ON all the time.
I literally have to log on to the parent portal every single day and check what assignments he has to do because he will always miss something. If he has to take a quiz online he'll ask me to sit with him while he does it. He says it's reassuring to have me there.
I do joke and tell him "So when you're in college I assume you'll be sending me a plane ticket to sit in your dorm while you take a test?" he laughs it off but it worries me that he gets nervous about his assignments. I proofread all his essays and make corrections that he needs to fix before he hands things in. I have to tell him REPEATEDLY "Go do your HW." It is exhausting. If I wasn't all up his ass, he'd have been kicked out of that school already, but because I am all up in it, he is actually getting decent grades.
I like the study/note taking idea someone posted above. While watching him take quizzes I noticed that he doesn't read the full questions, he breezes thru them and then picks the answer based on the part of the question he read. This "shortcut" of his, is causing him to get low test grades because most questions are trick questions designed to test his comprehension.
I know we are supposed to allow kids to fail when they don't take responsibility for their own actions but it is hard for me to do that. Aside from the fact that I am paying out of my ass for his education, I feel that he NEEDS the extra push and the extra hand holding because I refused to put him on drugs for his ADHD. :?
Your rotors are spinning just
Your rotors are spinning just as fast as mine were.
Have one last FINAL sit down with your son. Have HIM write out a schedule of how to keep HIMSELF on task.
2pm: Get home
2-230: snack and unwind
230: check parent portal for any missed assignments (GIVE him the password so he can check himself! All my skids have it, they check it daily!)
245- 500: Homework
500: Dinner
530-?? finish homework
??-?? shower, prep for school tomorrow (lay out clothes etc)
??-?? chill time. (anything they wanna do, video games, work out, talk on the phone, go to bed early, irritate the hell out of their parents etc)
If you dont want to let him FAIL... you check his grades on Friday. If he has missing assignments he spends ALL weekend doing the assignments and any chores you come up with as a penalty. No video games/friends/fun. Eventually he will get tired of his weekends sucking ass and do something to correct the issue.
just.his.wife - These are
just.his.wife - These are great suggestions except for the fact that my son gets home from school at 7pm everyday.
His school is 20 miles away from home and he has football practice right after which is why he gets home so late. Both DH & I work in another state also, so dinner at our house is at 7:30pm sometimes even as late as 8pm.
So he gets home at 7pm, showers, eats dinner with us and then starts his HW at around 8 or so. He does HW till around 10pm sometimes even later. He does have the portal password and does log on but it is usually after I have told him 45 times to do so. He writes his HW down in his assignment pad, but since his school is trying to prepare him for college SOME teachers won't tell him the HW and instead just post it on the portal. It is their way of ensuring the kids are actually logging on every night. So I log on from work as my way of keeping tabs on his assignments because 9 times outta 10, he'll have an assignment that he had no clue was due.
I have been trying to get him to prepare his book bag at night before he goes to bed just so I can give him an extra 20 minutes to sleep. We have to get up at 5:30am to get him to his bus on time. If his bag is ready, (sports equipment, gym clothes, HW & books) I can allow him a few extra minutes in bed in the morning. If not, forget it. We are scrambling like lunatics to get out of the house on time. Things get a bit easier when football season is over, but during football, forget it, total mayhem.
Stop.reminding.him. He is old
Stop.reminding.him.
He is old enough to figure out what his homework is mom. And if his grades slip? There goes football and hell it makes your life easier: toss him the reigns and simply tell him: first time you have below a c you are off the team. No negotiations. Then hold to it.
It sucks.
But his future wife will love you for making him independant instead of leaving him a kid for her to finish raising.