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mrshenderson's picture

ok... so my stepdaughters are twelve and thirteen. their mom who passed tragically several years ago was apparently a raging psycho. thankfully, i never had to know her. we are pretty sure that both girls have learning disabilities but the truth is they are rude and vindictive, addicted to other people's drama, make up their own drama to incite the other or anyone around them, foul mouthed and inconsiderate.
i am pretty smart. but i use logic. when i don't see or feel logic, i get tense and irritable. i have brought my daughter up using logic and reason and, until she has now spent about five years with these two little snots, she got it; mostly. she was at least on the right track until i met their father.
i love my husband. i truly believe i was sent by God (or whatever anyone else wants to call it; i call it God) to enter his life and bring peace or calm or Zen or... well to help him with this: he fought for custody from their bio mom for years, did not have a significant influence in their lives and, ultimately, got sole custody of both of them when she passed away. they were six and seven years old. he worked full time and had some gf that never, ever wanted to be a parent to these kids. between his full time work and hers, the girls got passed from babysitter to babysitter; anyone who could take them, influence (mostly not great)aside.
Now we are struggling with preteens and have fights with them daily about what they think is appropriate, the way they treat others and their entitlement to any and everything anyone and everyone else has. The oldest is 13 and has a mouth that NEVER stops running. Even when she is alone, she is talking… mostly negatively and mostly about other people’s business. She almost literally walks on her father like he is a doormat and she gets to me by bullying my bio-kid. To say the least it is a daily trudge to try to use my “blinders” so that I may find some peace from her. The middle child, his youngest, has recently been diagnosed ODD, which I’d bet most folks on this website have heard of before but for those who have not, Oppositional Defiant Disorder is usually prevalent in boys between 15 and 20 years old or is often diagnosed along with other conditions like autism, Tourette syndrome, bi-polar and ADD/ADHD. His 12 year-old also has had a rage issue. That we know of, their mother was a pathological liar, on anti-psychotic drugs, and was something of a sex-addict to which acts the child (to our knowledge) was witness more than one time. We have recently sent her to live with our pastor because we could not handle the fits in combination with her bio-sis’ mouth. I personally tried for 3 years to get somewhere with her behavior to no avail; and now, my pastor has decided that she can’t do it either and my daughter is coming home. The two of them are addicted to other people’s drama and the sound of their own voices. I do not want my daughter to come under their influence because she is really a nice kid. Does she have her issues? Well, of course she does but she has a good heart and she is friendly and she at least used to care more about the feelings of others than the business of others.
So, the long and short of it is that I vent and vent and vent like this all the time to my husband who is pretty clueless as to how to deal. I have had advice from my family and many others but short of beating the logic and reason into them (which I really can’t and shouldn’t do) I can’t for the life of me figure out how to get these very simple concepts into their heads. I am frankly scared to have the third daughter back in the house and I feel like my head is on backwards.
Any advice???

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Ommy's picture

Honestly i would cut them out from the world. No cell phone, no computer, no ipod, no tv unless you as a family are watching a movie, no sports, no friends cut their life line. Go get respectible clothing things your grandmother would be happy to see them dress in. If this is your last chance and you have tried everything else turn them into little omish (sp) children. I have heard that making teenagers write out what they want to say/ask you helps with back talking you dont reapond till they write it down, who wants to take the time to write out insults when it will only back fire (my aunt did it with my cousin, it worked on her) .....

You can have them earn things back by getting A's in their classes...or when their behavior changes

This is what i personally would do...i feel bad for my FSDs if they act out more then normal when they are teens

hismineandours's picture

It is YOUR home-create that peaceful environment. If the girls are running their mouths-send them to their rooms. If they wear trashy clothes, throw them away. As someone else said, take away all their screen time. Make them earn all privileges with behavior you deem appropriate. Get them into counseling-on medication if necessary. Keep your dd away from them as much as you can-enroll her in extracurriculars, sports, etc-sign these girls up for volunteer activites, get them involved in all church activites-keep them busy with prosocial activities.

Morals and values start developing in toddlerhood-in which the toddler first incorporates their parents morals and values (they dont have any of their own yet-but just incoproating their parents),then after these are incorporated they go own to develop their own morals and values. Obviously with alot of children-their parents are lacking in their own morals so their is just nothing to incorporate. This can stop the whole process of moral development. It is REALLY hard to get them to incorporate YOUR morals at 12 and 13-but I would still model this behavior. Start trying to teach them about empathy-when watching a tv with them start asking questions like, "wow I wonder how that made that character feel?"-just to get them to practicing putting themselves into someone's else shoes.

Good luck!

mrshenderson's picture

wow! i really like feedback. my hubby is supportive until i ask him for ideas. then he clams up like he's concentrating real hard for what seems like forever and when i'm like ok? well, he has forgotten what he was supposed to be thinking about. it is almost as frustrating as his kids' behavior.
we have had family counseling but we live in a small town and had a hard time keeping up on it. now the middle SD is in solo counseling (which we have in our little town) but it is only every other week and it doesn't seem to even be getting into any of her issues... her inner witch does not come out for her counselor.
also, we are about out of stuff to take away from them. the thirteen year old has been out her phone for months now, tv and internet are on a very strict 1-2 hour per week schedule (if they get any time at all) and they are down to clothes and bedding on a bed in their rooms. so now they are bored and i am responsible for entertaining them. when i refuse, its pretty much go time. i have tried leading by example and using force. these have just backfired because i have buttons and they do not just press my buttons... think thirty pound sledge hammer, and repeat. i used to think i was patient but must have been wrong.
the bullying is hard because my daughter just wants sisters. she thinks SD13 is a good friend and when i tell her she's just a selfish jerk and doesn't know the meaning of family love or true friendship, bio-baby (my poor softie) just sticks up for her against me.
any way... thank you all for feedback so far, i look forward to trying some of your suggestions!