Would YOU be with a BF or BM who walked away from their kids because they didn't want to pay CS?
i'm curious - would you stay with a person who decided to stop seeing their children because they didn't watn to pay child support?
What kind of reasons would you take to be valid for NOT seeing their kids for 6 mos or more?
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No. IMO there is no valid
No. IMO there is no valid reason.
Sometimes the parent who has
Sometimes the parent who has custody causes more pain to the parent who doesn't and the children than it's worth. Sometimes the NCP walks away because he or she can't do anything to take custody from the CP, and the CP has turned the kids against the NCP and it's only hurting the kids to have to see someone they hate.
ok. how about a NCP who HAD
ok. how about a NCP who HAD custody - had it taken from them because they were leaving kids alone for hours at a time to go to the bar (and not even by me - someone called CPS. I found out when they called to invterview ME. I swear I thought he had called them on me), then had joint custody and free open range to see the kids. The CP held off the CS system by trying to work on it with the NCP. However the NCP would pull stunts, like, wait until noon or 1pm of day to p/u kids to do so. And not call or let anyone know. The CP and kids would be held hostage waiting - what then?
Yea, we're talking about me. THere was no turning the kids to hate. Their dad had full visitation to them whenever he wanted. HE only went MIA after the courts determined his CS. He didn't come to ANY of the custody hearings might i add. Not ONE.
He hasn't seen our kids in months except for Fathers Day. Our son was really missing him so I contacted family members.
So what then?
I'm trying to figure out how his gf can stay with him? As a woman I wold be disgusted by him.
We all live in our own
We all live in our own realities with our own truths. So what you see may not be what he sees. I know my DH got his ass handed to him in the custody hearings, so maybe your ex heard stories like that and decided it wasn't worth the drama.
Of course, it could just be that he didn't want kids in the first place and took this as an out.
If GF stays with him, I'm sure they will discuss this, and maybe she doesn't want kids either.
Hell no. No excuse to not
Hell no.
No excuse to not support your kids.
No excuse to not see your kids.
I'd be tarred and feathered and lit on fire before something "wasn't worth" going through to be with my kids.
No way. If you can walk
No way. If you can walk away from one kid, you will have no problem walking away from another.
I would have to say- I would
I would have to say- I would have a hard time with this. I knew a guy for almost 5 years and didn't realize he even had kids because he never talked about them. I heard through other friends that his Ex-wife got remarried and her new husband wanted to adopt them- so he could put them on his health insurance. Because he signed over his legal rights to the kids- he didn't have to pay child support.
I never seen him the same after finding this out. And as I study his "character" through the way he lives his life- he is someone who is always feeding off women and taking advantage of friends. He has a great job and makes good money- but he still takes advantage of the women he's with. He was married to my friend for about 2 years- and when she started nagging him about "bills" things unraveled. He drove a monster SUV- which he didn't need. They lived in a very expensive Condo- which they couldn't afford...and he would take off and Gamble with "bill" money. Just days after she moved out, he had a parade of women driving thru the complex- as if bragging to us. It was sickening. He caught himself a newly divorced = and EX WIFE of one of his "friends". He moved in within a few months. He had a BRAND NEW HARLEY within 6 months- all on his new GF's credit I'm sure. He is a smooth talking con artist. One of his co-workers is friends with my BF- and he used to CarPool with this guy everyday to work. After 2 years, he said he couldn't put up with him anymore. Anytime this guy tried to talk about his kids- mr. Con artist would say ' I really don't want to hear anything about it"- He didn't realize Mr. Con artist had kids for almost a year after working with him- cause he never even mentioned them. Imagine how those kids feel- they are probably in high school or college now. It is hard to respect a man who made a choice to walk away from his own flesh and blood- then never even ackknowledge he has kids.
I'm sure there are other circumstances- where one parent causes life to be Hell for the other- But it would be hard to accept if a man just walked away and never looked back !
Not really clear on how
Not really clear on how "walking away" will prevent them from having to pay child support. Custody/visitation is not legally connected to support - you don't pay to see them, you pay because they are breathing and need things. An order for support can be assessed against them at anytime regardless of how long ago they saw the child.
It doesn't. My door is open
It doesn't. My door is open every day and he has both my daughters and my cell phones. He's entitled to every weekend and welcome to see them any other time. Well he was, 6 mos ago. Now - he's been out so long I think my daughter would be weirded out.
I think HE feels like if he doesn't see them he doesn't have to pay.
I'm guessing - since I haven't spoken to him I don' tknow.
Some guys are just losers.
Some guys are just losers.
If I was a psychopathic bitch
If I was a psychopathic bitch BM who tortured my kids with PAS to the point where BD's life is a living hell along with the kids..... I couldn't blame a parent from walking away from that.
My FDH and I have talked and agreed that if either one of our children start trouble by becoming violent, lying to cps, etc. that's the link that has to go. You cannot sacrifice everything for someone who keeps destroying lives. Most of these women's husbands I couldn't blame if they never saw their children again.
How can you say there's never an excuse?
What if the child accuses the parent of neglect, sexual abuse, etc. ?
Nothing is ever black and white. You are naive if you think so. Have fun shitting rainbows.
My ex wanker doesnt see his
My ex wanker doesnt see his bio kids....It must have just got too hard for him and so he now hides....
I have had many a parent call me to say what wonderful children I have and how lovely behaved....usually after a party or sleepover/playover
Im not bragging by anymeans Im just making a point that this ex wanker prick of mine left me to bring up these kids...and im so glad he did ....but owes me about 60k in cs.....
I have had to pay flights and accommodation just to get the kids to see their dad and he still doesnt send em b/day pressies or xmas stuff....
prick
I don't give a tiny rat's ass
I don't give a tiny rat's ass what excuse is used...if you walk away from your kid for whatever reason (even if it's justified as in cases above), I couldn't respect any parent that didn't help care for them financially.
Mixed feelings on this one.
Mixed feelings on this one. I've met some "parents" who would be doing their kids a favor by walking away. How do you chose between abandonment or abuse as a cross to bear?
Assuming the person isn't a total waste of space, walking away and/or not providing support is an inexcusable character flaw.
I was 15 when my parents got
I was 15 when my parents got divorced and my dad disappeared and did not pay child support. I saw him when I turned 17 and my mom forced me to see him. Fast forward 20 years and our relationship is not good. I have an 18 month old he really could care less about and now he has a great grandson due on my son's 2nd birthday. He text messages me about my nieces pregnancy and is all into it, it makes me want to puke. When my niece and nephew were in grade school my brother had serious financial troubles and my dad moved the whole family into his house and helped raise them, so really, he has more attachment to that kid than mine I guess. They all live a few miles apart half way across the country but I know my heart will ache when I start seeing pictures of my dad with the new great grandson. He has been active in all of his grandkids lives but not mine. He raised my brother and sister but walked out on me. I have beat myself up for years about it and I know it isn't my fault, but it still sucks. And quite honestly every woman he has ever dated I have hated, first they have always been my age or younger and two bit tramps.
I always used to say NO WAY!
I always used to say NO WAY! That is one of the things that I loved about my DH at the beginning. His dedication to his daughter, etc. BUT< BUT now that I have been with him for 12 years and he has essentially done the same, except he has to pay, no freaking choice, I see why some do it. The hell that the crazy woman has put our family through is just more than anyone can handle alone. Heck, she was happy if he sold drugs for a living as long as she got as much money as she could out of him to get her nails done, while he didn't have time to see his kid because he had to work so much overtime. She completely destroyed his financial life and self-esteem. At the end of the day, I can see how some men give up.
Now, as a woman, I can't ever see myself walking away like that, but not because I could handle the stress, but because I would probably have beat the crap out of my ex if he pulled the same stuff that crazy witch did with my DH. I would have literally kidnapped my kiddo and taken off with him if my ex had pulled the same crap that she has. I see kids missing all the time and now I always wonder how many took of because they got sick of the crazy ex!
I don't think anyone can know
I don't think anyone can know what they would do until they are actually in that situation. Going to jail for not being able to afford child support is no joke. This economy makes unemployment more and more likely. Double standards for dads that don't pay vs. moms who don't pay is hypocrisy and discrimination.
If I ever hear of a dad who abandoned their kids, honestly I wonder if it is the kids he left or the mom. I have seen moms give their exes never ending hell and degradation just so they can even see their kids, but there is no way the dad is allowed to parent their own kids. I honestly think some moms make it so miserable for everyone involved, for their own sick needs, that I personally can understand walking away from all that.
I only know of one person who gave up all rights and this was the situation he faced, and no, I don't blame him. His kids were PASed against him right up until he died, still in his forties. Who are they mad at now? Was it worth it?????
I put it to the BMs in this situation like this: if the dad is so bad, why would you want them around your kid? And I also remind you of this: you picked him-!!! It takes two to tango and he must have been ok at some point, if you laid down and conceived a child with him. Just saying! so I refuse to judge, as it is not my place to do that, only God's IMO.!
I hate to admit it so please
I hate to admit it so please don't judge me, but I have often wished that he would just give SS over to BM. They are identical in looks and behavior and deserve each other. She and SS have caused every single problem in our marriage and our lives no exaggeration. My husband desperately wants to have 2 kids with me, but living this life with him is physically and mentally taking a seriously damaging toll on me. My cycle is all messed up from the stress, so I don't know if we could get pregnant right now if we wanted to. It's hard to not think about how much happier our lives would be. I know that I can make him happy and give him a great life, but SS and BM drag him down. SS knows how miserable he makes his dad and just smirks as he cries over the trouble he has caused.
depends. signing away all
depends. signing away all parental rights so the kid can get adopted by new SP, not wanting a kid in the first place and being oopsed, or causing more drama and chaos for kids by being present...yeah. It'd have to be like that. Someone who wants no input or time or connection to a child they did not want but is still willing to pay child support, is a different story than someone who just wants to weasel out of a commitment they made.
Just doing it to avoid paying money? nope. not right.
hmm your post reminds me of
hmm your post reminds me of my sd1 bm. . . she walked out on her was granted supervised visitaion and stopped visitation's cause she tought it'd also stop CS . . .she is now married and prego again. . couldn't IMAGINE why the guy she is with would stick around.
Yea I read adn responded to
Yea I read adn responded to your blog. He's a jerk. I don't get people.