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Having a kid free weekend...why do divorced women w/kids feel entitled, but not non-divorced?

herewegoagain's picture

Really, I understand the whole KID free weekend if you do not have any BIO kids. I get that. It was NOT your kid, it is NOT your kid, you want those darn kid free weekends because heck, you don't have any...Thus, the skids being at your house all the time is a nightmare. But, I just don't for the life of me understand the bio-moms here who have their own kids and want a completely KID free weekend. If you were still married to your ex you would never have a completely free kid weekend, or would you? I understand not wanting the SKIDS over because it's not the same as your kids...ie. they watch you, disrespect you, treat you like crap, report everything to BM, etc...but why complain about you not having a kid free day (not even skid related) because your ex won't take YOUR kids? Sorry, I don't get it. Anyone else wonder why it's perfectly ok for WOMEN to want a kid free weekend, even when that means not having THEIR kids, but the same women complain if the ex-husband wants a KID free weekend?

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bearcub25's picture

I always wanted to get divorced so I could ship my bios off EOW, LOL. JK....my kids would go to their Grandmas when they were little but as they grew up, they had EC and it was rare they wanted to go to Grandmas house.

attempting_to_maintain_composure's picture

I agree with you, Mazzy. I do not have my own kids, only a skid, but, this is something that everyone I know with their own biokids practices (married, divorced, single parent, what have you). It is totally healthy and acceptable for adults to have adult time away from their kids just as much as it is totally healthy and acceptable for kids to have time to be kids.

mamamomo's picture

I want kid free weekends now that I have SS5 he constantly picks with BD's is disrespectful and his new thing is to break stuff, I just need a break from him sometimes. I would love to tell DH I need a SS free weekend but I'm pretty sure he would be pissed about it so I just say kid free.

12yrstepmonster's picture

I've always found that funny too.

However it is nice to call granny and say can you take bios.

But dh and I were parents first, we had families, so our honeymoon time comes in our golden years. However it sure is nice that dd19 watches dd12 so we now have date nights after 11 years!

Disneyfan's picture

Because ther are times when you want to do adult things.

BMs and BDs both want kid free time. Why is that a bad thing?

overit2's picture

OH THE SHEER JUDGEMENT LOL. Ok I'll spell it out for you.

"If you were still married to your ex you would never have a completely free kid weekend, or would you?"

Hmmm, we are NOT STILL MARRIED however that does NOT mean he stopped being a parent to said children-If married I'm sure we would have found sitters/grandparents to have time to ourselves.

"...but why complain about you not having a kid free day (not even skid related) because your ex won't take YOUR kids? Sorry, I don't get it. Anyone else wonder why it's perfectly ok for WOMEN to want a kid free weekend, even when that means not having THEIR kids, but the same women complain if the ex-husband wants a KID free weekend?"

Ummm, are you perhaps forgetting that these are HIS KIDS also? And the children deserve to be parented by their father-their father owes it to his children to parent and spend time and do things with them. Sorry if you don't get it doesn't make your opinion right or valid. I don't complain that my exh has a wknd to himself at all.Shit he has 26-28 days to himself every month you know? Others and myself understand that adult time is important. Being a martyr tied to children 365 days is not healthy. YOU DO NOT STOP BEING A WOMAN and individual when you have children. THAT is not your entire identity. It is very healthy to have 'me time' and 'us time' and 'family time'.

Here's the thing-you are NO LONGER MARRIED, by virtue of being single - as a whole they will have more active social lives, either with friends, dating, trying to find a new partner-is this not true for singles w/out kids??? So because now you have kids you should NOT have a social life or date?? This DOES take time and who wants to drag their kids on a date or introduce them to their dates from the getgo? Not many sane people.

I really dont' give a rats ass what judgemental people think, but I have said many times...divorce hands you a shitty deal-YES for the kdis but ALSO for the parents-but the alternative of staying in an abusive marriage wasn't worth it to me.

As a single working mom with custody I am mom/dad for my kids during the week and do it all, homework, cooking, errands, cleaning, working, school meetings and events and conferences and dentist appts and SO MUCH MORE. IF I were married we would likely divide these responsibilities up a bit-or one person would still be at home cooking while I ran errands, etc. SO one of the only 'perks' of carrying a heavy load and being divorced is having EOW to recharge myself. I will never apologize for this.

This can involve time with my friends, with my boyfriend building OUR relationship, visiting family, taking a wknd trip, sitting at home, cleaning the entire house,working on my yard, cooking for the week, going to the grocery store, home improvement store, other errands, in summer it may invovle going to the pool, it may involve me sitting at home sunbathing with some cold beers, or watching a lifetime movie marathon, or painting walls, reading a book.

It's also the ME time to get back in touch with myself. This downtime allows me to be a BETTER MOTHER to my kids because I can get rid of the stress of doign it all 24/7 for 26-28 days out of the month.

I'm so very sorry if this somehow OFFENDS your sense of propriety Wink

herewegoagain's picture

hmmm...maybe because MOM wanted CUSTODY and the CS that came along with it...

hismineandours's picture

Thats where we are Draco. SS has no scheduled vistiation with his bm. I have very mixed feelings about that. I would LOVE to have a weekend without him and for my kids to get a break from him-BUT at the same time him visiting his bm also creates additional problems.

momagainfor4's picture

I think everyone deserves a little down time. And that includes anyone with kids. It's not supposed to be a prison sentence.
Couples that have bio-kids take trips and breaks from their families and jobs and sometimes even each other for a guys weekend or a girls weekend. Otherwise you go total burnout!!
I think clearing out the attic sometimes makes you a better person. I just know I was always refreshed and able to handle the constant responsibilities and tasks that come with running a 5 person household so much better after taking some time to myself. Some times just a day is great to have or just a few hours. No one is a robot.
I think I know what you're getting at by the statement you made.
Personally, I don't care who you are.. you need some time away from your kids every once in a while.
I don't understand why you think it's a bad thing for someone to want a break?
I've been trapped in a house with 3 kids for too long. It's not pretty.

Unfreakingreal's picture

Since my Bio's are older whenever DH and I want a KID free weekend, we stay at a hotel for the night. Order in, watch tv, connect sexually, shower together. BM once called DH and stated that HE needed to take his daughter EVERY weekend because she was out of hand and she couldn't deal with her. My DH flat out told her, "HELL NO, I need my weekends to do what I need to do. Now, if you can't handle her, than give her to me full time and I'll relieve you of your burden." Of course THAT won't fly, because that would mean losing the CS and we all know how some BM's refuse to let that cash cow fly out the window. I was very proud that DH didn't jump at the opportunity of having his little princess with us every weekend. Made me realize that he loves her, sure, but he values his time away from her just as much as I do.

herewegoagain's picture

Wow! Some of you really went out there...lol It really makes me laugh. I see NOTHING wrong with having a kid free weekend a few times a year. I also see nothing wrong with going on vacation without your kids once a year. It does however make me laugh and laugh much when a parent wants to be CUSTODIAL and then constantly complains about not having a kid free weekend. Really...You did decide to have the kids. Yes, you deserve it sometimes...no problem, but it's almost like it's the ex's fault if you can't have a kid free weekend.

PS - most who complain and I hear it ALL THE FUCKING time, as someone decided to post really nice words as a response, are those who work outside the home and send their kids to school and see them only a few hours a day, if that much. Then they have at least EOW off anyway if they are divorced. I know PLENTY of women who have their kids 24/7...these women also have great marriages...they do also take time off for themselves and their husbands, but they are with their kids 24/7...not an hour before going to school and another 3-4 hrs max! Since the kids are usually in school and are put to bed at 7-8PM at night anyway...lol

overit2's picture

You're whole concept and thread IS moronic, that's all I have to say...who the hell are you to say 'a wknd a few times a year'? Are you a single parent raising your children?

A custodial parent means in case you dont' know-that the main custody of the kids is with that person-our CO spells out generous visitation, EOW, split holidays, vacation/summer time (all of which he never takes with them)-we have joing legal custody and discuss medical/school issues and he has just as much input as I do. YOU WANTED CUSTODY...you can't say that for all women, me personally, yes I wanted my children, but my ex didn't want custody so to HIM it was a no brainer to walk out and pay $500 a month for two chidlren and rarely have to do a damn thing for them back then.

He's also 'old school' and firmly believes young children should be raised by their mother-otherwise known as no way in HELL could I take this load like you do lol

The NCP STILL is a PARENT, he STILL should be spending time with his children, probably a lot MORE then JUST EOW...him paying CS doesn't abdicate his responsibility to be a FATHER and spend time with his children-his children deserve and need a relationship w/their dad. You almost seem to think that a dad should just pay cs and maybe see his kids a few times a year-as to avoid giving BM EOW to do her own thing? You're priorities seemed f'ed up.

Honey-who DOESN'T 'send their kids to school', divorced or married? Who as a responsible citizen and model to their children DOESN'T work outside the home to earn a living and NOT mooch of of the state, their husbands, ex-husbands.

OF COURSE I work-of COURSE my children go to school. We have about 4-5hrs together every night, just liek most married couples.
In addition to MY wknds with the kids, I also take off every time they are sick or have a half day/off day from school. I have generous vacation and time off work-I use about 3-5 days of those weeks for me time-everythign else I use for when my kids are out of school to do things with them. I LOVE having my kids and being their mother and doing fun things also-I ALSO enjoy my breaks and de-stress time, your pov really amazes me because it's so delusional

WHO is with their kids 24/7 with school aged kids, moms of little guys? Heck I was with mine all the time when I took off 5 months each time after their birth. If I needed time away to re-group my exh would watch them, my parents would, we foudn a sitter.
You just don't make sense, honestly.

Disneyfan's picture

How dare a BM decide to WORK and help support her children.

A good BM would stay home and live off of CS and welfare.

overit2's picture

OF course I get it flabbergasted, those are extreme cases though of course. I'm not sure what the OP was referring to but in most cases I think it's PERFECTLY NORMAL to want down time.

You cannot use the analogy-if you're married you'd have the kids all the time-because you're NOT married, SINGLES normally have more of a social life, and also if you are custodial a heavy burden and need to de-compress.

3littlemonkeys's picture

Yeah, I don't feel the need to "downtime" from my kids. I figure they're only going to be kids for so long, and then they'll be gone. Time sure flies...

overit2's picture

I call bullshit...perfect 'martyr helicopter parents' have some missing screws. Their entire identity is wrapped up unhealthy wise in KIDS>

EVERYBODY needs downtime to be an individual, a friend, a lover, a wife, a sister, a daughter...you are NOT SOLELY a mother-people that tried to sell women that are morons.

I question why we have more then half of the population burnt out, stressed and various forms of medication.

3littlemonkeys's picture

You think what I'm saying is bullshit? All because it isn't how YOU feel? Wow. Talk about zero tolerance for a differing opinion.

I am also not a helicopter parent. Not sure why you make that assumption. I happen to not only love, but ENJOY, my kids. They're pretty entertaining and as the ones at home are now 11-17, they are all teens/tween. I LIKE BEING WITH THEM. Do they get tiring, especially when they bicker?
Hell, yes.
I don't know why you think you can speak for EVERYBODY. Is it not possible that not everyone has the same "needs" as you?

overit2's picture

Of coures it's possible-question do you not think your children deserve or should have a relationship w/their father...do you not think it WOULD BE BEST if your children had time with them and him with them???

You say no visitation and no cs....why may I ask? Has he passed or just simply not involved at all?

WE/I am not saying I do not enjoy my kids-I DO...they are at a fun age now also. We balance a nice amount of down time with activities or seeing friends or family on wknds. I also enjoy 'me time' to get things done that I can't during the week or when with the kids.

My bf and I do not live together so the responsibility of my home is on me.

3littlemonkeys's picture

XH chooses not to be involved. I have done everything possible to encourage that relationship, but...well, he's just a selfish asshole.

Me believing they should have a relationship with their father is NOT the same as saying I need a "break."

overit2's picture

IF he had been involved-believe me my ex is selfish also-but I also encouraged their relationship, and eventually both them and him have found their place-limited but nonetheless something.

If you had seen from the getgo that he took them every wknd-and the kids benefitted from being w/their dad...and you got accustomed to some 'down time' to re-charge knowing the kids were ALSO gaining from 'being shipped off' (ugghhh that's a horrible way to put it when kids spend time with their father)-do you think you might have had a different approach? Just wondering.

We all adapt to our 'situation' eventually-that doesn't mean that you didn't deserve some down time or that you wouldn't have enjoyed it-it also means that your kids and their dad would have benefitted from a relationship....right now your kids lost out, he lost out...and I'm going to take a guess that you did to. WHY? Because you probably did experience burn out, you probably suffered by seeing YOUR CHILDREN suffer from lack of a caring father.

People need to get off this 'eow is break for bm' -so WHAT if she re-charges-it's for time for father/children-shoot check aroudn the board, ask my ex..MOST of these dads don't WANT more time with their children (or their poor wives by default lol)

overit2's picture

Question-do you have bio children and do you live or are married to their father?

I DO get your guys point-because SD's BM will 'haul her off' even on HER wknds to anyone she possibly can, ALL THE TIME, always has, that woman literally DOES see the kid as a CS tkt and nothing more-so I know these women exist. I LIKE TO BELIEVE this is not the majority.

I will not feel guilt for enjoying EOW to myself because when they ARE with me I do NOT pawn them off w/others and I'm a very hands on parent.

overit2's picture

Yes, I think you are a control freak lol-but that could be because of your surroundings/experience.

I lived in an intact home as well-but we DID have overnights with friends, my parents DID take trips by themselves, sometimes we alternated trips, some kids went some didn't (it was me and two brothers).
My parents went on dates alone and we had family outings also-they perfectly balanced their family/couple time. We had many 'tias' and 'tios' growign up. in other words trusted babysitters/friends of my parents w/their kids that instilled life long value in us besides our parents. I learned from ALL of them and ended up very balanced. My parents did the bulk of raising us, but they allowe the world around us to shape us into who we are. Teachers, mentors, other parents, etc.

The babysitters we had were with our families for years-more like nannys you could say. I loved them dearly and they did us-my parents treated them very well...till this day I keep in touch with them thank you FB! lol

I don't believe parents are the ONE AND ONLY to shape a child into a healthy human being-I dont' want my chidlren thinking my way of raising/thinking is the only way. I want them to be open to others who are of a healthy influence to them just like I had.

NOW if they had shit around them of worthy people I see your point-otherwise a kids life is ENRICHED by having many loved ones, parents, family, friends, mentors, teachers, coaches, their FATHER, their STEPMOM, the stepmoms family, the fathers circle of friends and family.

Ommy's picture

I understand where the OP is coming from. She is not saying that the bio father shouldnt take the kids on the weekend. what she is saying if a conflict comes up and he cant take him the BM (lets face it it is most cases the BM) will flip the hell out because she "needs a break". However in most cases the kids are in school and the BM's are Stay at Home Moms. Hello what does she get during school hours a BREAK where in most cases our Better Halves work 40+ hours a week to support BM's house hold and try and contribute as much as possible to their own house hold.

3littlemonkeys's picture

Honestly, when I became a mother, I assumed it to be a full time job. Married, not married, no matter.
I am FT parent. There is NO visitation with bio-dad. There is also no CS.
I can honestly say that I would NOT look forward to a kid-free EOWE. We are so busy during the week with work, school, homework, errands, activities, etc, that I don't often feel like we spend a lot of time together M-F. I actually enjoy my kids and like to spend time with them. We will do a pizza night and watch movies, or we'll sit around and jabber, or whatever. I, personally, don't feel like I need to be away from them to re-charge or get in touch with "me."
Does that mean I NEVER do things without them? No way. If DH and I want to see a movie, we go. I just don't personally need EOWE away from my kids to recharge. I'd actually be rather sad if they were gone EOWE.

I'm not passing judgement on those who want the "time off," though. This is just my personal opinion.

overit2's picture

Interesting, most of the women bitching at other bm's are MARRIED.

Meaning....support at home financially, emotionally, physically at homes and outside the home. Interesting. YOU ARE NOT doing it alone.

I also will go on a limb and say those that think that parenting is their only role normally have crap relationships/marriages/infidelity/depression/anxiety. I know-I see it ALL the damn time and I dare anyone try and make me believe their life is picture perfect and they are mother f'in teresa. PUUUHHHLLLLEEEAAAZZZEEE

3littlemonkeys's picture

My life is NOT picture perfect. Far from it. I am NOT Mother Teresa. Why must those things be the case if I LIKE spending time with my kids?

Overit, you're making an awful lot of assumptions based on YOUR values.

skylarksms's picture

Always....expect....entitled...constantly...all of these I've seen in the above posts.

Thems thar are fighting words. In the real world, there are very few absolutes.

Every parent, single or married - custodial or not - MALE OR FEMALE, deserves SOME time to charge their batteries. As overit2 says, it makes you a better parent if you aren't burnt out.

What doesn't work so well is when one parent decides they want ALL of their time free and decides to foist the child(ren) off on:
1. the other parent
2. the grandparent(s)
3. other family
4. friends
5. sitters

momagainfor4's picture

Ok, the original post was not clear. You were kinda open ended and not specific.

I get what you were saying about people that choose to be custodial parents (for the CS) but then pawn their kids off on someone else ALL the time. I see it a lot. I think we all prolly know someone like that.
But most parents are not like that.
I think that good hardworking single parents deserve some time to themselves. That is not the same as some deadbeat moocher who lives off the child support that never wants to take care of their kid but farms them out to everyone bc "they need a break". That is just an excuse. They are never going to be the parent that they should.
There is a difference. Some people are lazy stupid excuses for humans.. regardless of the situation they are in!!

overit2's picture

AMEN!!!!!! YES, two parents in an intact home are to SHARE duties/responsibilities/downtime/work/chores and give eachotherh breaks. NOT SO when you're playing both roles-it's give give until you have no more-that is when those precious days are valuable not only to the kids and to their dad but for the parent doing the bulk of raising the kids-and doing so well.

I KNOW evident of this board and my own sd's bm that their are shit parents that only see the kid as a CS tkt and nothing more-they are sad pathetic excuses for human beings, let alone mothers

Superstopmommy's picture

Being a BM and being the CP of my 3 kids, I knew I would never have a weekend free. Heck I didn't have any free time when I was married, why would I think having free time once divorced would surface? I collected CS and was the CP for 10+ years. The only time I had a free weekend was if my mom would take them. A CO means nothing and the ex never took his children. He didn't want to parent so I should be penalized because he paid CS? CS gives him the right NOT to parent his kids? PLEASE.... cause we all now that CS covers everything for kids, right?

I enjoyed that time with my now adult kids.

Unfreakingreal's picture

I remember way back when, when EXH used to get my BS every weekend. And then, when I didn't have MY BS, my DHs kids would be at my house. The situation got very ugly for a while and eventually DH and I broke up. (We weren't married yet) One of the reasons was that I felt that if I didn't have MY son on the weekends there was no reason why HIS kids should be in my house every weekend. After 6 months apart and a new visitation arrangement with BM (EOW instead of EVERY weekend) we reconciled. I was very resentful that I had those kids in my home when my boy wasn't there. These days EXH sees my son maybe once every 6 months. Pays no CS and honestly, I prefer my son to be home with me anyway. BM on the other hand, dumps SD11 at everyones home on her weekends. Which I find a little sad. When does she spend time with her daughter? She's at school all day, goes to her GMs after school to wait for BM to pick her up after work, is with us EOW, and at everyone else's house but her BMs when it's BM weekend. THAT I find incredibly bad. But whatever, not my problem.

oncechoosetosmile's picture

I don't like my kids free weekends (that means no kids at all) I LOVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEE THHHHHEEEEEMMMM!!
My own ones spend eowe with their dad and they are having a great time together whereas SD 7 gets to go to her mum.
Now WHY shall I feel bad about that?If my babies would be pushed around or have no good place to go I would rather let them stay here of course but instead I make the very best out of it, SO and I are having a great time nourishing OUR rs , going out for dinner, movies etc.
Sorry, i dont feel guilty about this.
This is a part of the seperation- the core or bio family sy=ticks together 24/7 but in the normal scenario after a divorce/seperation the kids get to spend time with both bio parents.
It is always sad to get seperated and don't get to supply the children with the ideal 24/7 family ideal, but this is life!! There are so many seperated families and I think generally that it is the best to share some times with both bio parents.My kids dad is looking forward to have them this weekend and I am loooking forward to have a great time without all of them, charge my batteries and see them on Monday again!
Guilt, NO!!