Is the challenge of becoming a stepmom worth it?
I am worried that I will feel like the "often irritated outsider" for years to come. :?
Hello, I am a 36yr woman. I've never been married and have no children. Although for many years now I've hoped and prayed to have a loving relationship, marriage and children. My boyfriend and I have been together for a year and 4 months now. He's a divorced single dad to one 8yr daughter. He knows I hope to have a wedding and baby of my own one day. Thankfully before I joined this site, I read the other blogs & I see from other user's comments that I am not an evil or terrible or selfish person for having mixed feelings about his daughter and for having the thought that things would probbly be better & easier if it was just Him & I. But it is not easy.
She acts like a little brat more often than not, often times whining when she doesn't get her way, or over little stuff that no one can control, like it being hot in summer etc. She sometimes has tantrums, which I think an 8&1/2 yr old is too big for and she doesn't really have many manners. Like saying please and thank you, or not sitting with her legs all up in the air. My boyfriend has even gotten frustrated with her bratty behavior at times and referred to her as a brat. But I am sure I get frustrated with it WAY more than he does. He doesn't usually do much to discipline her behavior either. I know, I know, She is his child and they have been together just the two of them, most of the time for the past few years since he's been divorced. I am not sure if part of the reason he doesn't discipline her more is because he is used to a lot of it, is worried about backlash from his ex in court or if he just doesn't know better ways to discipline so she learns to act better.
He has split custody, so he has her with him every week from Sunday afternoon to Wednesday then she goes back to her BM's house. He and I usually spend time together on Friday and Saturday evenings. Because I have two jobs and I work Monday - Saturday and he works Wednesday - Sunday. We also live kind of far apart, about 40-55 minute drive one way, depending on traffic & weather. Sometimes I stay around at his place on Sundays and spend time with him and his daughter Sunday afternoon and evening. Not always bad but sometimes I feel like a "fifth-wheel" and when she has her whining tantrums I feel so irritated and want to just go home.
My BF and I love each other and have discussed getting married one day and he knows that I want to have a baby of my own one day. Hopefully before it's too late for me. :? We've also discussed getting a place together this summer, but honestly I am really concerned about the days when his daughter would visit us. The idea that half my week, every week when I get home from work could be consumed by his daughter acting like a brat :O :sick: . The thought alone litterally brings me to tears.
A few months ago, on a Sunday when I was hanging out with him and his daughter, she ended up whining and pouting for about 95% of the afternoon and evening. It was so F'kng annoying. Even though by BF did get annoyed by it some, he didn't really do or say much about it to her. I was so annoyed. This was not the first occaision of her speding hours acting like a whiny twit.
At one point we were all sitting on the couch, my BF in the middle and she put her feet on him and was pushing on him and pinched his arm. He got upset a little and told her to stop it. But that was it. If I did that as a child, My mom or dad would have smacked the crap out of me and rightfully so. My parents weren’t super strict and didn't spank us a lot, hardly ever actually, we learned not to act a fool and the threat of a slap was enough. They were very loving, but they didn't let me or my sister act like little shit's either. Thank goodness!!!!!
After she finally went to bed, my BF seemed to be just fine as if our whole evening wasn't marred by whining and pouting.
My sister and I are very close. I have a niece(5yr) and nephew(7yr). I have been around them both since they were born. They are my god children. I love spending time with them often and I am thankful they live fairly close to me. They are pretty well behaved children because their parents, My sis & brother-in-law teach them well, give them lots of love, yet do NOT let them act up without disciplining them. I don't let them act up when I am watching them either and if/when they do, I put a stop top it. "Time out" is ussually enough to get them to straighten up. Yet we still have fun together, they are always so happy to see me, I feel like a celebrity with all the hugs and smiles I get when I walk in the door. I know that won't last forever as they get older. Such as life.
Anyway, the Sunday when my BF's daughter was acting like a little twit, after she went to sleep I was really quiet. My BF asked me what I was thinking about. I said he probably doesn't want to know. He asked me what it was again and said he does want to know. I said, "why do you let her talk back to you?" he dismissively said, she was just acting like a brat and I said, "then why not say something to her about it? and then I said, "I don't even let my niece & nephew talk back to me."
He got frustrated and it turned into an argument. He said he could spank her butt, but what good would that do? The he said, this is why he is terrified of having another child. I said, "Oh, like I'd let MY child act like THAT?!"
Cause, while i know all kids have their moments, I sure as hell won't let them act like that.
I ended up crying in the bathroom for a moment. Partially at the fear that he may never fully warm up to having another child with me. But also at the idea of putting up with his child acting like a butt and him not doing much about it or to change it.
Last night I tried to have a calm conversation with my BF about my concerns and it went fairly well, no yelling etc. He did end up asking me what he could do to help me [not feel like a fifth wheel]. I am worried that I will feel like the "often irritated outsider for years to come though. I do not have previous experience with this stuff, so it's not like I had a list of things ready to tell him. Besides, I was trying to tread lightly so he doesn't just think I am trying to insult his child or his parenting. I did not mention to him about my concerns with how irritating her bratty nehavior is and that I am not sure I want to live with that.
I did tell him that I am concerned about his consideration level for me when she is around. Recently the three of us went on a road trip to South Dakota for a few days. there were ups and downs, but for the most part a good trip. Thankfully she didn't act up much, that is until we were driving back. :l
A few times while on the trip I noticed that my boyfriend would do things like, ask her what she wanted to eat and not always ask me too and let her watch "her shows" on tv and not even ask me if I might want to watch something other than a kiddy show. One time when we got back to the room with food, She immediatly asked to watch "her shows". Well since she watched them the day before and that morning, I said " wait a moment, lets see if we can find a show we all might want to watch" My boyfriend flipped through a couple channels then handed her the remote as if what I said didn't even matter. WTF?
It has me concerned that he will not take my feelings & needs etc. into consideration much when she is round us. I know she is his child, she should be his priority most of the time. But on the other hand she is not a little baby and old enuogh to learn how to share and be considerate of the people around her. I don't think anyone has really tried to teach her that. His and my relationship should be a priority to him too. I let my boyfriend know I am considering renewing my lease at my current place for another year from next month (May). So that we could all have more time to adjust to the dynamic.
Not trying to be too selfish but, Is me trying to learn how to deal with all this "ish" AKA his substantail baggage (a bratty SD, his ex and her family and his hesitation about having a baby w/ me etc.) really worth it for me? I really could use some feedback and support, especially from those who can relate.
Thanks in advance for reading my ranting vent.
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Only you can really know if
Only you can really know if all this is worth it. The best I can say is go into it with your eyes wide open. He is the parent and he has made it clear he has no plans to address his dd's behavior. So don't expect it to magically improve.
Thank you for respnonding
Thank you for respnonding Carriedear. I know it won't magically improve overnight.
Can I ask, what does DH stand for?
Dear Husband : )
Dear Husband : )
While the comments that it
While the comments that it will only get worse not better makes me sad and scared to think that being alone and taking the RISK of finding a guy with no kids to love me, hopefully in time for me to have our own babies, might be a better option than staying with the first man to truly love me and his bratty kid. I do really really appreciate getting feedback from some that can relate. and don't think me terrible for feeling the way I do.
I can tell you for sure that
I can tell you for sure that it will only get worse once u have your own child with him. Not that your BF's and his kid's dynamic will change, but because the problems will intensify for you when you're also irritated about the situation affecting your own child. I get that you love the guy, just keep your options open. If you've only been with him shortly over a year, you still have time to get out of it and find someone else whose baggage won't negatively affect u........ Just my opinion though. I try to see it as if I were talking to myself nearly 10 years ago when this shit started for me. I don't think it ever gets easier, but it can get harder to find a way out. Best of luck to you.
COMPLETELY AGREE.... If the
COMPLETELY AGREE.... If the man refuses to be on the same page with you and later it becomes you against Him/Kids Team, then you will be miserable!!
Now and then I see a post on
Now and then I see a post on here that is so insightful, so spot on that it takes my breath away.
This is one of them.
I fully intended for step
I fully intended for step life to be a positive one. I get along with kids great. Never been an issue....till.....I became a step mom.
I kid you not, worse thing that has ever happened to me.
And I have tried. I deeply wanted this to work out. If your a step dad, you have a better shot.
My hubby and I deeply love each other. I have known him since I was 14 (long story) and still it does not work to be a step mom.
My marriage will last, however, step kid can leave as far as I am concerned.
I really like your suggestion
I really like your suggestion of giving it 6 months to improve. It actually helps me to feel like i have a timeline.
Maybe after My BF and I talk honeslty about parenting stuff and having a baby togethr etc. If he is willing to see a counselor with me and things don't imporove in about 6 months I will move on.
Bringing another kid into it
Bringing another kid into it will add more problems.....
I'm sorry to say that if you
I'm sorry to say that if you already feel like that, it'll not change and will only get worse. You will end up maybe not hating the child, but resenting the father more and more. It's (not)"easy" to deal with what you described once in a while, but on an almost daily basis, it will drive you nuts. Unless he lets you discipline the kid; that would change everything.
I never knew my bio father I
I never knew my bio father I was a snotty step kid just due to never taking step dad's seriously I guess. My mom has been married four times with always relationships in between so I just took them for granted seeing what I could get before the inevitable break up. My mom's very hard to please not scared to be alone and financially independent she had no problem finding them and kicking them out if she lost interest.
riplyV2 let me start by
riplyV2 let me start by saying THANK YOU SO MUCH for your advice and feedback. It was some of the most helpful and actually gives me a little hope.
I am going to try to do what you suggest about talking to him honestly about what I want and trying to put my concerns about his daughter and parenting in a way to let him know I have best interest at heart.
BTW I love your quote "Don't
BTW I love your quote "Don't try win over the haters. You're not the jacka$$ whisperer." SO perfect for life and dealing with people in general.
I have an SD19 and an SD13
I have an SD19 and an SD13 who identifies as a boy, SD19 is at college and SD13 FT 24/7. Your BoyF's DD8 sounds like my SD19. SD13 is well on her way. You have a Disney Dad who does nothing but give in to an 8yo's demands, thus giving her all of the power. This is at age 8? It will get much worse. SDs/DDs are little bitches in the making. They all go through it, the only difference is when their power starts and when it finally ends. Skeeter on here has an SD55, YES 5-5, and that SD55 has made her life hell for 35+ years! It will never change until your BoyF changes.
I would renew my lease for a year, most definitely. Paying that rent every month is worth having the place to run back to, esp on Sundays. Don't hang around as much when his DD8 is there. The biggest things I got from your post were 1) You want to have a baby, and 2) His DD8 is probably acting up even more so when you are around, vying for BoyF's attention. So it's annoying at age 8?
Wait until she is 19. WAIT until she is 19. JUST WAIT. It will only get worse. He needs to step up (which he probably won't do) or you need to move on. Either way it will be difficult for someone. My DH has chosen to make it difficult for me in my own home rather than discipline his snotty SD19 and stoopid SD13. My life is a living hell and I wonder how the hell I even got here. So I buy lots of vanilla cupcakes these days and also stand up for myself now. }:)
~ Moon
Sounds like me and you have
Sounds like me and you have some similar problems with our BF. It is really hard to be with someone you love and want to be with and has a child. My boyfriend has a 8 year old son, brat as well no discipline. I don't have any kids of my own either and we have never been married either. Sometimes I wonder if all this is worth it but if he's the one for you like my BF is the one for me we have to accept him for him. I just hope the kid will grow up and get a little mature. Feeling like the 5th wheel I think will part of our lives for a while. We will never be their number one because they have a child…. idk? this is hard lol But… we also have to put our foot down and make sure that although we will never be their number we are a priority and should be treated like so.
I think your boyfriend has
I think your boyfriend has assumed that you feel the same way about his kid that you do. On the face of it, you're describing an indulgent parent. But behave that way in front of an adult who doesn't adore the child, and who has different parenting values... and you're going to have conflict.
I'm sure he's not being inconsiderate because he's a jerk. He's just got a huge blindspot. And tbh, so do you.
You've mentioned marrying and having a child with this man. Begin as you mean to go on. Talk to him about what's important to him as a parent. What ways he communicates his values to his kid. Ask the tough questions. Or don't... and feel like a lost planet revolving around his kid.
He might be a great guy. Just not a great guy for you.
Thank you wickedsm123. I
Thank you wickedsm123.
I agree that both of us going to a counselor who is good with this kind of stuff is a good method. I work with someone that does do some couples counseling and he himself is a single father with his own bio-daughter and girlfriend that doesn't have any bio-kids of her own. He can relate on multiple levels, yet he seems to be very understanding of my position too.
However, he is very expensive and I think i might be better off finding someone else that specializes in steppie issues.
I could have wrote your
I could have wrote your entire post word for word before my H and I got married.
Weeeeeell,
I was going to step up to the plate because H and I loved each other, right? And things would change once we were a unit, right?
Ahem, insert train wreck here.
And now we have a child together.
Let me just tell you RIGHT NOW it gets worse. Way worse. Way, way, way worse.
He has to be the one to change having his kid in charge. If she is in charge, she always will be UNTIL HE changes it. If not, I'm sorry to say...you will have a miserable experience
And please don't get me started on the issues that arise if stepchild is still in charge once you have your OWN biokid with your H. OMG...I can't even...
DO NOT I repeat DO NOT have this mans baby UNTIL he can discipline his kid appropriately and you are on the EXACT same page with the kids. There is no "well when this happens xyz" and "if we get married xyz." No. That's fairy tale.
Just think about it. If he is willing to listen to you and actually DO what he says (for a LONG time) you should think about it.
Sorry for the rant. This is a HOT topic for me because I totally get it. Totally lived it. And am totally living it as we speak.
This is hreat advice!
This is hreat advice!
Thank you everyone for your
:? Thank you everyone for your feedback. Having people that can relate to talk with helps.
I admit, I probabaly do have a bit of a blindspot because I love my BF. While we were hanging out together last night, I actually thought "what if I were to leave him?" Actually, I have been thinking about it for a little while now, especially after all your feedback. I felt/ feel like I would definitly miss him and feel sad for a while and really worry that I will be making a mistake. I feel like I am attractive, I don't smoke or do drugs, I can be fun to hang out with, eventhough I am more of a homebody, yet it took a long time for me to find a decent man that loves me for me. With previous BF's I never had true love.
I worry that if I breakup with the only man that I've had real love with, that I'll be making a mistake. What if I never find a decent man that doesn't already have kids & that I can have a loving, commited relationship and marriage and kids with? :? :?
I am not saying, fear of being alone, is ever a good reason for anyone to stay in a relationship, no matter what the circumstances. But I honestly do love my BF. I just don't love his daughter or some of the parenting things he does.
You are all SOO right, that he seems to feel some guilt about her having to bounce from household to household every week and he does let her be in charge. My mom was a teacher and a great mom (yes, obviously I am biased, but she really was) I learned from her and all my auntie's etc. that the parents should be in charge and that they can dicipline as needed and show their kids love without being strict.
My BF's D8 has potential to not act like a little brat so much and not grow to be more manulative etc., but it doesn't seem like anyone in her life has really tried to teach and enforce that. Things that are basic to me, like saying please and thank you and learning how to sit like a lady and not interupting adults talking and just general consideration for other people around you, are some of the things I have known that I intend to teach my own children. (if/when I get to have any) :?