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SS and the Feelings Doctor - Part 3

Drac0's picture

First part of this blog here:
http://www.steptalk.org/node/188650

Second part here:
http://www.steptalk.org/node/188948

This would mark the 6th time that I have met with SS’s therapist. It’s also the first time DW and I met with the therapist without SS present. That being said, I walked into the office knowing full well that my thoughts and observations would have little impact.

I never expected what would transpire next!

What I said: I told the therapist that while there has been a lot of positive effects of these therapy sessions, I don’t think “art therapy” (drawing and make stuff with construction paper and popsicle sticks) is appropriate for SS at his age. It may have been a useful technique to get SS to open up when he was little and had trouble expressing his feelings, but SS is a teenager now. I also said that I do not believe that throwing crumpled paper balls at his mother should be encouraged either. If SS is angry, frustrated or discouraged, he should learn to communicate and deal with those feelings like a normal teen, and not encouraged to act upon them like a child.

The therapist listened intently and she repeated my concerns.

“Basically what you are saying Drac0 is that you do not want SS to regress?”

“Yes!” I stated. “That is exactly it!"

The therapist then asked if SS acts this way (like a child) towards me. I said no. In fact, just last week SS expressed a keen interest in the political elections we were having. He was asking me very mature questions about a subject that – normally – doesn’t interest teens at all. I also stated that in my observations with his friends, he doesn’t act this way either. SS and his friends don’t sit together to draw pictures or make little arts and crafts projects (much less throw stuff at each other). They play video games, try out their skateboards, and talk about stuff that interests them. SS even replaced a wheel on his skateboard himself the other day which actually surprised me because I have never seen him use a screwdriver before.

“What about SS and his father?” The therapist asked. “How does he act with his Dad?”

On this both DW and I said that we were not sure since SS and his father have little (if any) interaction. But if I was to place a bet, I don’t think his Dad would tolerate SS crumpling little paper balls and throwing them at him as a means to “express his feelings”.

The therapist then turned to DW and I could tell the therapist was a little uncomfortable for what she was about to say next.

“In my opinion.” The therapist explained “Based on what I have seen and what Drac0 has observed, SS only regresses when he is with you DW.”

“Uh? Me? Why only me?” DW said.

“You and SS have built a – *ahem* – a rather unique relationship when you and Donkeykong split up. It’s not a bad thing, it’s just that your feelings for each other have become – how should I put this – “enmeshed”?”

HOLY CRAP! Is she really going there!?!?

“What do you mean?” DW asked clearly confused (and even as I write this, I suspect DW is STILL confused).

The therapist explained that when SS is in our custody, he is confident in his “place” in our home. He knows that DW will move heaven and earth for him. Contrarily at his Dad’s SS has a hard time “fitting in” largely due to the fact that Donkeykong doesn’t understand him.

“But you on the other hand” The therapist continues to explain to DW. “Not only do you understand SS, but you go out of your way to anticipate his feelings and his needs. If he feels angry, or depressed or sad, you are there not just to comfort him but to act as an extension to his feelings – basically what I am telling you DW – is that you need to let go.”

Cue dramatic pause for effect

A lot of other things were discussed, but what I wrote here above was the main punch of our talks with the therapist. The therapist agrees with me on a certain level that SS should be encouraged to talk and express his feelings without resorting to child’s play but “on his own terms”. What the therapist suggested is asking SS if he is open to the idea of seeing the therapist on his own.

“And it doesn’t have to be me…” The therapist said as well. “Most children who see me either end up going to see someone else or stop going to therapy altogether because they don’t need it anymore but it’s ALWAYS on their terms…”

Comments

Drac0's picture

Sorry Ladyface, I responded to this below. I did speak to DW afterwards and DW maintains that she has "let go". I don't think DW fully understands the extent of "letting go" however as is evidenced in her treatment of SS when he was about to go to his Dad's for most of the summer. She was hugging him, telling him she would miss him, etc when she really should have said "Hey! It's your time with your Dad. Try to make the most of it." DW is still hooked into this parenting philosophy of validating the child's feelings.

Another thing that occured just before SS left was SS went to DW all excited over something that he did on some xbox game and wanted to show DW. DW said repeatedly "I am NOT interested in your xbox game!" SS insisted. "But I want to show you!!! Pleeeeeeeeasse!". DW conceded and let SS show her. I told DW later that - based on what the therapist said - she should have just said "I am NOT interested" and just walked away from SS instead of humoring him.

Drac0's picture

>I likes my coffee like I likes my men: cheap and in my kitchen. <

Oddly enough, I am not offended. Biggrin

But no Folgers for me please. Gotta have my Juan Valdez.

misSTEP's picture

Lots of growth...hopefully mentally and not just physically. He is, after all, already TALL.

Drac0's picture

I quote you BTW,

I said "I don't want these therapy session to turn into just an expensive daycare for SS"

Drac0's picture

Well DW maintains that she has let go.

Now in all fairness to DW, she has cut the apron strings so-to-speak but the problem is that SS is still "clinging". So now DW has to stab at his hands with a fork to get him to let go completely and figure out sh*t for himself. So while DW has progressed in the right direction, she needs to progress even further.

For example, when SS whines that he doesn't want to go to his Dad's for most of the summer, DW consoles him, says she will miss him, ect. Instead, DW should be saying "Look, this is your time with your Dad. It's up to you to make the most of it." and leave it at that.

thinkthrice's picture

. . . and then you picked DW off the floor; therapist walked over to Drac0 and closed his jaw for him manually.

amber3902's picture

I'm not giving this therapist much credit here.

Up until this visit, the therapist has been allowing your SS to deal with his emotions by drawing on construction paper and throwing paper balls.

Why did you have to meet with the therapist for the therapist to suddenly realize that DW is emotionally enmeshed with her son? Why hasn't the therapist told this stuff to DW before?

It sounds like if you hadn't met with the therapist, she would have not confronted DW about her enabling of SS and would have let SS continue with art therapy and throwing paper balls.

Drac0's picture

>Why did you have to meet with the therapist for the therapist to suddenly realize that DW is emotionally enmeshed with her son? Why hasn't the therapist told this stuff to DW before?<

The therapist has had her suspicions but she never had any "hard" evidence until I came along. Remember she only has DW's and SS's observations to work on, so my observations was a bit of a "ah ha!" moment.

thinkthrice's picture

Maybe the therapist discovered Steptalk.org. . .OR

Could it be she became a SM since the last paper ball tossing session?

Drac0's picture

Heh....Possibly.

DW said in the session "I find Drac0 is too hard on SS and expects too much from him" and I replied "Because I believe SS can achieve the high standards I set". The therapist actually smiled at me and said that she also sets high expectations for her daughter.

thinkthrice's picture

Thus the therapist stated "Most (guilty/disney) parents drop me as a therapist and go elsewhere"

I'm still shocked at the transformation from paper-ball-throwing-psychobabble placation to sensibility!

Drac0's picture

I'm shocked too! What I gathered is that the therapist wants the same thing that I want (encourage/teach SS to communicate his feelings in a more mature manner) but she can't do so unless she has a buy-in from DW. This is why she is encouraging single one-on-one sessions with SS rather than have DW present for each one of them but the therapist won't force the issue either.

kathc's picture

PLease leave online reviews that this therapist is WONDERFUL with StepFamilies!!! Wow! 99% of them would blame you for being mean and tell your DW that her kid is a special snowflake that needs to be treated with kid gloves.

Drac0's picture

Ooh! You know what she told me afterwards? She told me "Drac0, I am sorry, I have to remind myself at times that you are not SS's father. Because you bring up issues that a bio-father normally does, but I have only spoken to Donkeykong once!"

Rhinodad's picture

You know, I've often wondered if therapy would be a good thing for my family. I mean, it helped me realize how awfully I was treated by my first wife and to get out of that situation.

Now my concern is if we did try therapy - am I going to be told that it is all my fault and I have to be super-lovy-dovy with SD7 no matter how she treats me. From what I've read that seems to be the general consensus among therapists. Your post, however, has me wondering if maybe it is worth giving it a shot.

Drac0's picture

There are different types of therapists out there, so maybe it is worth looking into? I too was a patient for a while after my divorce. Therapy really helped me so I am an advocate of therapy but yeah, there is a lot of incidents reported on these boards of therapy gone wrong.

Drac0's picture

Honestly, I get the impression that she wants SS to move on. By that I mean she wants him to either grow up or see someone else. Teaching SS that it is okay to throw paper balls to release aggression I find is irresponsible but the therapist believes that he will stop if we convince SS to see a therapist (not necessarily her) on his own.

I really don't know what the aversion is to telling this kid "No! Stop doing that! That isn't nice!" but....meh, I'm no therapist.

Apart from that, I think we are going in the right direction. I think SS should be going to see a therapist on his own.

amber3902's picture

That's basically what I said, Ripley.

Draco claims the therapist didn't have any "hard evidence" about DW's enabling. I don't buy it. It doesn't take years for a therapist to figure out a person's problems. Heck, my therapist figured out some things for me in one session.

Maybe Draco is just so grateful that someone finally said something to DW about letting go that he doesn't want to look the gift horse in the mouth.

Drac0's picture

>Maybe Draco is just so grateful that someone finally said something to DW about letting go that he doesn't want to look the gift horse in the mouth.<

Opinions on the therapist aside. Bottom line is, I am still "just" the step-father. No one *has* to listen to me or my opinions, but both DW and the therapist were very well receptive of what I had to say. I can't ask for more than that at this point.

amber3902's picture

Yeah, I understand you're "just" the step-father, but that doesn't mean you have to give the therapist more credit than she deserves.

I'm glad the therapist finally said something to DW, but I'd still be a little peeved it's taken her YEARS to do it, and only after you brought these issues to her attention.

Drac0's picture

Maybe I *should* have been peeved, but I guess I was just so happy that the therapist told DW something that I have been trying to tell her FOR YEARS, but wasn't able to communicate it properly.