my day yesterday with Jabba's psycho text rant!
8 months ago Dh had his girls for the weekend he took them out to shoot his 22 rifle. I told him if Jabba ever found out it would be a shit storm. We have since moved out of the country in to a gated community. Here is how MY day went ALL DAY yesterday!!
Jabba-Let Dh know that since he decided to be the first one to teach Sd8 how to use a rifle I will be the the one to take her for her first tattoo when she's 16. (He teaches her to shoot a gun=she needs a tattoo??)
Me-Ok, Just so you know, NO tattoo. Artist will touch anyone under 18.
Jabba-No tattoo artist will touch anyone under 18 without parental permission.
Me-Nope period I tried to get Ds17's f up fixed NO ONE will touch him he's 17!
Jabba-Remind Dh his name isn't on birth certificates. If I find out either of my girls fire a gun at their age I will go loco I don't care Bubbly1...this isn't about tattoos....my girls are NOT around guns plain & simple. If he has a problem then HE can have the balls to call me!
Me-He doesn't have a problem. Apparently you do. Its not like he handed her the gun and sent her out the door. He NEVER took his hands off either of them!!
Jabba-Sd8 told me he taught her to shoot a rifle........NO NO NO....I mean it. Y'all can hate me all u want. My 8 & 5 year old daughters are not exposed to that. If he has an issue then HE can contact me! I don't freakin care! He wants to discuss this then he can contact me......otherwise they are here with me. PERIOD
Me-Fine by me. Just so you know it was 8 MONTHS ago. And I made such a big stink he hasn't done it since. I HATE guns! He's a guy, doesn't get it. I can assure you it will not happen again.
Jabba-This is crazy stupid big...that my girls are shooting rifles. I'm done with this BS...and I WILL NOT read the books Bubbly1 likes to text. DH, YOUR RIGHTS OR CHILD SUPPORT. PLAIN & SIMPLE. (Now she's talking to dh, even though she's texting MY phone!)I'm done kissing his ass. You complain about ur ex not supporting ur kids but u defend Dh not supporting his girls. His rights or support...period. I won't acknowledge anything else. Honestly, i wish he would sign his rights over.(Back to talking to me)8 months ago my ass....Sd8 told me he taught her this past weekend I want his rights....I want him out of our lives! And I will only talk to him about this!
Me-Jabba. The neighborhood we live in is FULL of houses and kids. I was there the WHOLE time we don't even have bullets for the dang gun. She's lying. Period. You saw where we live. Did you see any where to shoot a gun? Really?
Jabba-Oh she's lying? You remember you are talking about my child. All I asked her was "hey Bella what did y'all do this weekend?" She said "well daddy taught me how to shoot a long gun." So u calling my child a liar doesn't help much. (Somebody's lying here an it ain't me)She's still trying to trust u after accusing her of that ring (SHE said SHE took it)Tell Dh when he's wondering why his girls aren't coming over that you think Sd8 is a "liar"
Me-I'm gonna show him every word. Don't worry. I DO NOT lie to or keep secrets from my husband. Ever.
Jabba-Don't contact me again....from this point on (& I MEAN IT) I will only talk to Dh.....Dh...your husband (who cares) but the father of my girls. Show him every word.....PLEASE PLEASE SHOW HIM EVERY WORD.
Me-Will Do!
Jabba-No texting AT ALL. I WILL ONLY COMMUNICATE VOICE TO VOICE I WILL NOT RESPOND TO TEXT MESSAGES put Dh on the phone.
Me-I'm still helping my Aunt in Manning so, no dice.
Jabba-It's funny how u bitch & yell about ur ex not helping u with child support but u will defend Dh to the death when he's doing the same thing. Bubbly1 he hasn't given me one penny in over 2 years for Sd's....and yet I've let them see him any time. I don't do it for him...I do it because they want to see their dad...yet I'm the evil bitch (we see them when she needs a sitter)
Me-The ONLY one calling you an "evil bitch" is YOU!
Jabba-I want his rights....I don't want a damn penny from him. I want him to sign his rights over. I want his rights....that's what I want Yeah I kept that text....so let him know why he's not seeing his girls!
Me-I already told you I would. Why do you feel it necessary to repeat everything you say? I'm not a child, I'm a grown woman. Capable of remembering simple tasks!
Jabba-Because u like to make sure that Dh & the mother of his children don't communicate.....and don't try to bullshit that. I have no desire to be with "your man". You've been with him a couple of years but I did EIGHT YEARS with him. I don't want your man........I want his rights. Although since he never put his name on the birth certificate I think there won't be a problem!
Me-ThEn GO FOR IT Jabba!!! I'm done w/the back and forth! HE doesn't WANT YOU!
Jabba-I want him to give his rights over. I will say that again & again & again I want his rights You think a squirrel in ur mailbox was bad? (We moved for several reasons, one being someone put a dead squirrel in our mailbox)
Jabba-He calls me........PERIOD
Jabba-He calls me........PERIOD
Me-Once AGAIN....GO FOR IT JABBA!!! I WILL say that again and again! Don't threaten me bitch. That's where the shit stops. I'll make sure you NEVER SEE A DIME!!!!!!
Jabba-I DON'T WANT A DIME! I WANT HIS RIGHTS!
Me-Then fucking take them nut bag! Leave me the hell alone!
Jabba-I don't want a fucking penny.....I want his rights signed over. Call me a bitch again though.
Me-Bitch, leave me alone!
Jabba-It's amazing to me how too chicken shit y'all are to actually talk (voice to voice) about this(meaning she wants to scream at Dh and I)
You can explain to Dh why he's not seeing his girls!
Me-I'm Busy dealing with "grown-up" stuff. Something you obviously know nothing about. If you tell me one more time to "tell Dh" I'm taking the battery out of my Phone! Have a nice day. Nut bag.
Jabba-He won't see them anytime soon. You psycho brood mare nut bag.
Me-HAhahAhahaha=))=D=))=D
Jabba-He DOES NOT see them .....you can explain why he can't see his daughters.
Psycho brood mare
Me-That made me laugh! You should consider stand up!
Jabba-Blah blah just make sure he remembers this goes before a judge. You are always so brave behind text or computer.
Me-Ditto!
Jabba-Really? I have called u tons & u haven't answered & ur too scared to let Dh talk to me
Me-Dh is not with me. You called ONE time. I was with a customer, btw. Do you not realize any thing you're saying? Do you "shoot" first and ask questions later? And I don't give two shits if he talks to you. Fyi, all of ^^^this, is WHY I deal w/you and NOT Dh. Why the hell would he want to?
I Don't! If you go back and look. I tried to assure you the gun was 8 months ago, it hasn't happened before or since. YOU don't wanna hear it. You want to rant and be Pissed off. At what?
Jabba-I don't care... he hasn't done shit for me. From now on I will only talk to him. I gave birth to his daughters.....not yours He won't see them unless I talk to him.
Me-Why don't you talk to Heath! I'm sure he cares more than I or Dh do. Nut BAG
Jabba- Blah blah psycho
Me-Yes you are dumb slore! I've got one of your diaries nut bag. Seen Heath or heard any voices lately?? Ass hat Nut Bag!
Jabba-(an hour later!) Remember this text in court
Me-I'll have the print out. So NO Problem! Oh, and your nut bag diary for the judge or whom ever to read. The definition of crazy - repeating the same actions and expecting different results! Sound familiar? Nut Bag.
Jabba-Do not contact me again unless its Dh about the girls
Jabba-I have no problem contacting my lawyer about it
Me-Ok, re-pete, pete, who ever you are today. You've only said that about 50 times, today alone. As I've said contact one. I'll be sure to have ALL the evidence WE Need to deal with you!(Sent @ 5:50 p.m.)
Jabba-(4 hours later!) I don't care if ur mad at me. My problem is my 8 year old daughter telling me she's been shooting a rifle.
Dh-She shot a rifle one damn time, and it was 8 DAMN MONTHS AGO!!!! No one was harmed and everyone was supervised. Ur arguing about nothing & they were in MY care!(Dh is texting now, he has gotten home)I shared moments like this with my grandfather and the memories still mean a lot to me. I can't believe you would act this way knowing that this is the time of My mom's and mema's anniversaries of their deaths. You said you would never do this, but look at yourself, threatening to take my girls away Look, I know I can't do much right now, but times are tough and you're trying to take the last blood family away from me. You have accosted Bubbly1, and she had nothing to do with it. We, her and I, do what we can for Sd's. If this means just spending time with them and buying what they need, so be it! I have read everything that was sent between the two of you and I will tell you that Alli is lying about thiS. Hell, your mother calls her a liar. If you're getting a lawyer to get money from me, go ahead. I wish I had it to give to the girls myself. But, if you want to talk to me then leave Bubbly1 out of it! She has nothing to do with our arguments and will not be your punching bag for when you're upset or mad at me or anything/anyone else!
Jabba-I haven't threatened to take anyone away. I only said what I wanted. If this is actually Dh.....nothing was ever mentioned about ur mom or mema. I don't say anything to them about that because its hard for them. I don't give a rats ass if u hate me & I've NEVER threatened to take them from u. All I said is u can either help me with them or sign ur rights over....plain & fucking simple. I'm seeing my lawyer tomorrow. Contact me like this again & I will file harassment charges....leave me alone!
Jabba(again, an hour or so had passed w/o a word from Dh)-DON'T CONTACT MY PHONE....AT ALL!!!
Jabba(again, an hour w/o word one from Dh)What part of don't contact me is confusing?
Jabba-I don't want a fucking dime from you!!! I want your rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dh-What the hell is that then, an invite the have them for the weekend? No, that's a threat to take them away right there!!!
Jabba-(she got him to bite, damn it) I have said time & again to leave Bubbly1 out of it....I gave birth to YOUR kids Sign your rights over....please please please. I want u out of our lives!
Me-I Want you out of MINE!!!
Dh-And I want you out of our lives but unfortunately, as it looks now, it aint happening for either of us.
Jabba-Just sign ur rights over. I don't want a dime from u.
Dh-Aint happening. Why are you being so damn stupid? Forget your meds for the day? Or maybe you haven't been to church in a few weeks so you can go this weekend And just apologize next weekend about being this much of a bitch! What's a matter?? Get dumped AGAIN?? AND I want paternity tests. You always talked about solidarity and here you go freaking out and not thinking about a thing you're saying.
Jabba-Oh I can do that.....until the results don't contact me...from this moment on. Paternity test...no problem. DO NOT CONTACT ME...OR ELSE! Do not respond at all.
Dh-Or else what?!? You'll sic Heath on me? You know how much raving lunatic bullshit this is? Probably not, because you're the one being the raving lunatic. NUT. BAG.
Jabba-Call me what u want. Do u really think I care what u think of me? I will put Dh's ass on Maury in a fucking minute.
Dh-Of course not, and the feeling is mutual. I couldn't care less about you or what you say, and you know the only thing you have on me is the girls. They're your Pawn because you're pissed. I would be embarrassed to go on any show & be associated with you. You are the biggest mistake I ever made, & I do mean The Biggest!(Hehe)
Jabba-LEAVE ME ALONE.....I MEAN IT!!
Jabba-(20min later)LEAVE ME ALONE...SERIOUSLY
I removed the battery from my phone here.
7:30 this morning
Jabba-Trust me...the mistake feeling is mutual. Question the paternity I dare u!
Jabba-Argument aside from yesterday & by the way Alli told me that is was a long time ago at the other house so for that I apologize...anyway I'm worried about sd8. She's tired all the time...she has no energy & today she's starting to run a temp. I'm going to get her to a doctor & get some bloodwork done.
Me again (dh is at work)-That's nice.
Jabba-That's nice? I'm talking about sd8's health!
Me- That's nice.
Jabba-Wow....u know I know I pissed y'all off yesterday but don't take it out on the girls. And y'all aren't innocent in all this. Chewing me out for saying I didn't tell u about her accident in fayetteville but its ok for my 8 & 5 year old to shoot guns or u to chop off Sd8's hair without asking me.(Sd was hit by a car, we weren't told)
Me-I asked her supposed father. He said to cut it since its never washed or brushed ANY WAY! I wasn't fucking home when they shot the God damn rifle. I WAS PISSED TOO! But, like a sane person. I realized DH would NEVER let anything happen to OUR kids! So I let it drop!!
Jabba-Don't do the supposed father thing...there is no question he is their father. I know u wouldn't let anything happen to them...but it caught me off guard.
Me-He questions it NOT me. Not my kids, not my problem. I'm pissed, damn right. I'm pissed that I have to deal with this garbage for another 13 years...maybe.
Jabba-I'm pissed too. I'm pissed that I'm constantly being made to be a damn villain all the freakin time! Just because I'm their mom & get worried when I hear that my girls are shooting guns. Whether u dealt with it with him or not.
Me-I tried in the beginning to tell you I understand. I was mad too. You didn't wanna hear it. I told you it hasn't happened before or since. Again you didn't want To hear it. I'm tired of you making yourself the villain. You are the only one who does!
Jabba-Because I was freaked out! Guns scare the hell out of me!
Me-Order the test for Sd8. And leave us alone. They scare the hell out of me too. I will not have a repeat of yesterday. Hope you're feeling better about your Self today. Because I'm done here. Enjoy
Jabba- Agreed.
Sorry its SOOO long. This is what I deal with ALL THE TIME!!
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Sorry - didn't read the whole
Sorry - didn't read the whole message, just skimmed it.
I understand that Jabba may give you and DH grief.
However, as a mother, I have to tell you that I would be freaked out by that too. There is no way I would have wanted my boys touching a gun at 8. And I have a feeling that a judge would feel the same way. Maybe DH didn't use his best judgement with that one. The rest of her stupidity is just that - stupidity. From now on, I would not allow the girls to touch guns again under any circumstance.
She claims they told her they
She claims they told her they shot it this weekend. Then she says they said it was a long time ago in our old house. So idk which it is. She's a big ol' liar.
I agree I love guns, I have
I agree I love guns, I have been around them since I was 4. Now that I am 21 I have a total of 17, hand guns, riffles, you name it and I have it or my dad or grandpa has it. As long as your responsible I dont see a problem
Guns dont kill people; People kill People when they are no responsible.
Some girls had barbies, I had
Some girls had barbies, I had smith and wesson.
My dad wanted a boy and my grandpa wanted a grandson. It paid off. I beat the record in basic training for field stripping the m16. Plus I was ranked 2nd in accuracy at the range with 230 other basic trainees. Most of which were men.
But again it is all about responsibility.
I wish they didn't scare me.
I wish they didn't scare me. Dh has tried to teach me to shoot them. I've tried. I have shot them. Hit what I was aiming at and was done. They still scare the hell out of me. I always end up shooting blind cause my eyes are closed!
Wow...That was a lot...That
Wow...That was a lot...That was too much...
Do you think it's smart to fight back and forth with BM, regardless of how you feel? Seems like the whole thing was a bit immature and a lot of effort and emotion on both parts...While I understand hers (her kids), I really don't understand yours...
BM can rant all day long about SD and she gets nothing out of me...Seriously...NOTHING...I don't care what she says...what she might call me...she's a non-factor in my life.
And I agree with PP, I'd freak out over my kid being around guns and shooting...that's just me though...
I understand her fear. I do.
I understand her fear. I do. I tried to tell her that. He had MY bio's doing it too. I was VERY upset. It has not happened since that day. He just wanted our kids to have some of the same memories he has from that age w/his Grandfather. He is a very smart, highly educated, SOUTHERN man. He got it when we sat and talked "calmly" about it. He promised he wouldn't bring the rifle out again, and he hasn't. He had a brain fart that day is all I can say.
Yes, we grew up completely different than our kids are. Our Grandparents did careless stupid things and we survived them, thank God. That does not mean I want to repeat their mistakes and hope for the best. These are our children we're talking about.
She just took the whole situation to a whole other level! I wasn't home, they are not my kids, I had no control over what happened. I wasn't there. She has something else she's pissed about, needed a punching bag, and knew we are easy targets. She does this often, to often.
Sounds extremely sophomoric.
Sounds extremely sophomoric. Why did you continue to engage her?
I know you can't see the time
I know you can't see the time stamps. There are times when hours would pass and I wouldn't respond, she would repeat her self till I did. Or Dh did after he got home. She is a crazy button pusher.
First of all... I feel your
First of all... I feel your pain with the BM... I deal with this kind of stuff all the time as well...
Secondly about the gun thing... I am sorry, but guns are only as safe as the person handling it. I spent 4 years active duty military. I am extremely safe around guns. I have absolute no issues with a father teaching their child how to fire, handle, and care for one SAFELY. The father daughter moment like that can never be replaced. Daddy is only trying to get daughter to be included in his life. And is firing a gun safely is his way of having a father/daughter moment, then so be it. No judge in their right mind would care about a child learning gun safety and so on... AS LONG AS THE ENVIRONMENT IS SAFE!!!!
My DH and I have 1 extremely important rule we follow to a T in our lives with all 4 of my Skids... and that is: "What happens at BM's house is her business, what happens at DH/SM's house is our business..." We can not control that household, and as much as she tries, she can not control ours.
Bottom line is this: You BM is just as psychotic as mine is... She is insecure, and incapable of reality... They think the sun rises and sets on them and them alone.
You and your DH need to do exactly what you are doing, keep and document EVERYTHING... Loose Lips Sink Ships... She will have just enough rope to hang herself quite nicely... Let the paternity test prove he id BD... them I would rip them girls from her care in a heartbeat.... but that is just me being the bitch that I am... She want to play games, great, play them back through the courts and see which one comes out on top... I guarantee the one with the most legal proof will be victorious!
Best of lick to ya...
sorry that is supposed to be
sorry that is supposed to be BEST OF LUCK TO YA... LOL (damn computers)
Well I read this entire thing
Well I read this entire thing and all I have to say is OMFG!!!! Sweety dont have text wars. My X's wife tries to have them with me and I blocked her number. I am lucky SD's BM doesnt do that. thank god. But X's wife used to and sometimes I would try to reason with her but with CRAZY people there is no reason...So your actually wasting your time and this seemed to be a all day affair...You will never get that time back....Next time i just wouldnt respond seriously....
The gun thing my X is a hunter, my children went hunting, my oldest no more but my youngest 14 loves it...I on the other hand hate it!!! But he has gone through classes and my X is always there with him and teaches him the danger of guns...I still hate it I really do but I put my trust in their father...and hope it is fine!!! But seriously next text ignore.....let DH deal with this shit!!!!
OMG…she is a nutball. A word
OMG…she is a nutball. A word of advice though….this is how the conversation should have happened…
Jabba-Let Dh know that since he decided to be the first one to teach Sd8 how to use a rifle I will be the the one to take her for her first tattoo when she's 16.
YOU--- …………………………………………………………………or at the most…."contact DH0."
WOW…she really sounds off a bit. Just wondering…why does DH not pay support?
We buy their clothes, shoes,
We buy their clothes, shoes, school supplies, whatever they need. Jabba thought dh was her personal atm and there is no court ordered support, so he stopped handing over cash when I came on the scene.
I feel your pain. My
I feel your pain. My boyfriend's daughter's BM treats me the same way. Reading your text transcript was like reading one of her crazy rants. And I happen to be both a gun owner and a family law attorney. (Boyfriend and BM lawyers too). Our guns are secured in a gun safe; his daughter (9 yo) has never even seen them or had access and BM rants all the time making empty legal threats. No judge is going to keep a father from his kids unless it can be proven that gun safety is not being practiced and that the children's safety is being threatened. As tempting as it is to tell her what a hysterical psycho nut bag she is, resist. It sounds like they do not have a divorce decree or paternity action order governing their parenting plan/custody schedule/child support obligations/etc. It might be worth it to you guys to sit down with an attorney you can trust & consider getting something on file with the courts. My boyfriend did, and while it hasn't magically transformed BM into a sane person, or even a person really, it has made our life dealing with her much easier. Our texts back usually just tell her to refer to the order & leave us alone. Most states will enforce violations of these orders as misdemeanor offenses (especially interfering with custody rights/schedules etc.). She may think twice about making threats about signing over rights or extorting money every time she disagrees with his parental choices if there is the potential of a visit to the pokey in it for her. Good luck!
He asked if I would give her
He asked if I would give her MY cell # because of these situations. He works, I don't. It was before I had found this site and all of you wonderful people. So I agreed. Usually between her and I its very civil. Her and Dh, not so much. I deal with pick up/drop offs. We felt it was better for the girls to see two adults "get along" than to see mommy and Daddy fight every time their around one another.
He took over texting her when he got home from work. And tried again to calm her as I had earlier. She does this often. Gets mad, pms, gets dumped, Something sets her off and we're the punching bags. Then in a day or so, she's sorry.
Do not play into texting wars
Do not play into texting wars with her. Do Not reply thats the best why to get them to stop. BM will eventually quit.
I don't think you being in the middle is healthy, althought I understand why you try.
I'm also from Texas and my family does teach our kids to shoot guns. We go deer hunting and ect. not so much for the sport, we actully process the meat. There is nothing wrong with knowing how to use a gun. As long as gun safety is tought too.
He told me he never took his
He told me he never took his hands off the gun. I wasn't home so I don't know. I believe him he wouldn't put any of our kids at risk. Which was why I dropped it that day.
He just wanted to make memories with our kids. And that was good enough for me.
I guess next time she needs a punching bag, this one will be conveniently unavailable.