Burnout
I guess what happens is that women try to hard and then get burned.
It's in our nature to be active and engaged.
We always had the stepkids at xmas, and every year I couldn't stop myself from busting my ass and spending a fortune trying to create a magical christmas morning. Then later they would leave their gifts behind or I would find them stuffed in a box somewhere and I would swear-- never again. DH you buy stuff for your kids and I'll buy stuff form mine. And then I would look at the gifts and realize they were uneven and do it all over again.
And then the dizzying hatred for their mother, poisoning everything.
Has anyone really successfully and completely disengaged? Now that my stepson has moved out of our house it feels like a possibility, but soon they will be back in town. Can I really just refuse to interact with them?
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Yes, you can - I have for the
Yes, you can - I have for the last 10 years. I have a small amount of trivial chat with my SD18 when she arrives EOW. With my SD16, whom I loathe, I have none whatsoever. I do nothing for them, I never go out with DH when he takes them to stuff. I have been the same for a decade. They have put my gifts in the bin, so I rarely buy them these days, and only occasionally for SD18, like on her 18th birthday, never for SD16. I give DH a little money and tell him to put it towards her gift.
If you want to message me about particular issues to do with disengagement, feel free. But it is certainly possible.
Can I ask, how does DH feel
Can I ask, how does DH feel about this? I'm on the border of disengaging myself, but am nervous I may lose my relationship in the process.
I wonder this too. I have
I wonder this too. I have told my DH this is my plan, and it will mean I don't come to family events, spend christmas separately (with my family) etc-- and he tells me this will be absolutely unacceptable to him.
It does seem like I am going from one extreme to the other...
In response to your
In response to your questions, Echo is right, you can do as little or as much as you want down the continuum of disengagement. It is best to start gradually. Back when I disengaged, I did not know there was a term for it - and no internet support group, so I just started backing off as it felt the natural response to the madness of EOW.
My younger SD, who was then 5 or 6, would sabotage every "family" outing we went on - so I stopped going on them - as I figured it was better for 3 people to have a good time than 4 people to have a crap one - and this is how I explained it to DH - he saw the logic, though was sad I was not coming out with them. I felt it was actually quite a generous move on my part to back away and let the SDs have one on one time with their Dad.
But as time went on and NPD BM continued to PAS the SDs, things if anything, got worse - particularly with YSD and my verbal input when they were around became less and less - I am a non confrontational person, and I back away if I feel uncomfortable. I think my DH realised this - but he didn't do much to help the situation - I think he was scared that NPD BM would withdraw visitation, which she did a number of times, but in the end he got wise to this and started to tell her to get on with it. It never lasted more than one weekend.
I didn't like (and still don't) mealtime with the SDs as they are such motor mouths and spout such rubbish and BRAG all the time, which I hate. I am an understated Brit and I loathe grandstanding. I generally cook one meal for all, while they are here, but wherever possible I eat mine separately. DH cooks the others.
He is aware that I don't care for his daughters, but until a few years ago, I didn't feel I could show the full extent of my negative feelings as I was in fear for my marriage. However, I got to the point of "what the hell" these girls are disrespectful and obnoxious - why should I have to pretend to like them? Or maybe that it's that I'm just getting older (55). I have 2 of my own daughters who are 31 and 29 and they have always got on fine with DH.
I think its a tricky thing - disengaging - you have to judge how much of it your marriage can stand. But mine has had to stand a lot - because otherwise I would have either left or lost it, mentally.