Partner calling the mother of his chid “mommy”
Greetings!
It’s my first time being an adult in a blended family (I lived in one as a child) and I’ve come across some hardships. That might sound like not a big deal at all, but I’ve found that this matter greatly disturbs me. When my partner is talking to his son, he refers to the boys mother as “mommy”.
“I’m not sure, you have to ask mommy.”
”Call mommy, maybe she knows where your book is?” And so on..
Asked him why he calls her mommy, the answer was that for the kid she is his mommy and that’s how he has always called her when talking to his son.
Okay. Tried to draw a parallel by saying that I don’t call my ex-husband “sweetie”, even tho I called him that for 6 years, because we are not together anymore.
Tried to express myself that when he calls her that, it makes me feel more like an intruder and like I don’t belong in the family. Makes me feel like an outsider in ‘their family’ where I am just a girlfriend.
Also I don’t mind when the kid calls his mother mommy. That is absolutely normal. But for my partner that woman is not a mommy.. and she has a perfectly nice name.. he could refer to her using that.
How is it in your families? Does your significant other refer to his/hers kids other parent mommy/daddy and does it affect you in any way?
With best regards,
R.
My DH refers to BM as "your
My DH refers to BM as "your mom" or "her mom." I don't think he likes having to actually say her name.
It is totally how he should
It is totally how he should refer to her to the kids. What do you want him to say? "Call Karen, she can tell you where the book is?" Or are you just wanting him to say, "Your mom" instead of "Mommy"?
Now, this advice applies only if the kids are little. If they are older, then it should be "Mom" and not "Mommy"
As for your ex, that's totally different. If he were calling BM and saying, "Mommy, where is Jr's book?" then I'd think WTF? But he's not doing that, he's calling her that to them.
IMO, this is you being insecure.
"Okay. Tried to draw a
"Okay. Tried to draw a parallel by saying that I don’t call my ex-husband “sweetie”, even tho I called him that for 6 years, because we are not together anymore."
BIG difference. Your EX is no longer your Sweetie... BM is STILL that child's "mommy".
And.. you are NOT the child's "mommy" so how does calling HER that make you feel not part of the family? BM is that child's mother. That is a logical way for your DH to refer to her when speaking with the child. I guess he could say "your mother" vs "mommy" but honestly.. that's semantics and it shouldn't make any difference. To complain about that makes you appear insecure. That may not be.. but this does not seem to be a hill to die on. It sounds like something that you would be better served learning to ignore.
I actually refer to her as
I actually refer to her as "SS's mom" to friends and family because I hate saying her name, and I can't call her what DH and I call her.
This is how we do/have done
This is how we do/have done it, too.
"Your mom" / "SD's mom" / "the kid's mother" (sometimes said with the same inflection as an epithet when telling some outrageous story to each other about what she said/did) Get in the car, we're taking you back to your mom's house. You'll have to ask your mom about that first...
Etc.
OP - I'm assuming the child is very young? Otherwise the "mommy" would be weird.
I had never really thought of this because it was never an issue for me...but I think I would also struggle with hearing my DH refer to his ex as "mommy" to the kids. It feels intimate...inclusive with her and exclusive toward the new spouse/partner. While I agree he probably shouldn't call her by her first name to her kids, I'd greatly prefer "your mom" if I were you.
On a side note, I once went on a first date with this guy who...all night long...he'd use just "Mom" and "Dad" instead of "my mom" and "my dad" when he was telling me stories about his family. As in: "Then Mom backed the car right over the bush because she was so aggravated and Dad and I laughed so hard..."
I knew it was petty...but it drove me crazy and was a complete turnoff for some reason...like he was linguistically trying to subsume me into his family on our first date. I kept mentally adding a "my" before every "Mom" and "Dad" in my head as he wove his tales.
I refer to BM as "your mom"
I refer to BM as "your mom" when talking to the boys, or to DH as "your dad". DH does the same when talking about BM. He may have said "Mommy" when they were younger.
I don't really see the issue. It's not a term of endearment like "honey" or "sweetie". "Mommy", while juvenile-sounding, is a title like Professor, Doctor, Captain, Grandma, Aunt, Cousin, etc. Would you be equally upset if he told his son "well, you'll have to ask Grandma about that"?
DH and I both refer to BM as
DH and I both refer to BM as "mommy" to SD.
SD has started calling me mom or momma (I think she's copying my 15 month old son with that one) and mommy is reserved for her biological mom. I don't like her calling me mom, but whatever, it's what she wants to do. But yeah, we both say "ask mommy" or "tell mommy" if we're referring to BM. Not a big deal whatsoever.
If the child is young
it is fine to call the ex "mommy" when talking to the child. When the child is older "mom" or "your mom".
I think it would be weird to call the ex by her first name when talking to the child. It might even cause the child to start calling her by her first name, causing a whole new set of issues.
It's also a form of parental
It's also a form of parental alienation - a way to subconsciously get the kid not considering the other parent to be a parent.
BM here used to do it - she'd text SS and say, "Tell "DH's name" x,y and z". Very powerful.
I completely get how this
I completely get how this irritates you. It would me too.
We referred to the blended family oppositions by their title with their first names added when SS-26 was young. Now we just refer to them collectively by their family name.
When he was young it was Daddy(firstname), Gramma9(firstname), etc.... Now it is just "How are the Cadidlehoppers?". For disclosure sake... that is not their IRL last name and was used only for example's sake.
I get it with grandparents
I get it with grandparents because there are tons of them, but why did you do that with his BD? I get that he was worthless in your eyes, but he was "Daddy". End. Period. Dot. Not "Daddy Joe" or whatever.
Yep. Exactly.
Yep. Exactly.
Actually the SKid did that
Actually the SKid did that himself. He chose to call me Dad(dy) and he just added BioDad’s first name when speaking about his BioDad. That is how he kept it straight in his mind when recounting the activities he usually did at home when on visitation and when he would tell us about what he had done while on visitation when he got home.
His mom and I did not stipulate who he called what. Until much later when SpermGrandHag started the “He’s not your REAL dad” crap. At which point I gave him a choice. Call me what he chose to call me originally. Or call me Mr Lastname. He chose to stick with Dad. And not too many years later he asked me to adopt him.
There is no demon here folks. Just a husband and father who protected his family from manipulate idiots to the best of his ability. That one of those idiots is my son’s BioDad is irrelevant IMHO.
Welcome aboard.
I think I see your dilemma. Your SO is calling her "mommy" implies that relationship is still active to the kid because he's not saying the determiner word "your" mommy. That little word "your" is pretty crucial - like commas in the following two statements:
The comma is small, but KEY!
If you'd like, maybe weigh in like this... ask him if he's like to be referred to as "Daddy" or "YOUR daddy." Kid says, "Rachel, may I please play with this book of matches," and you say, "I dunnnnno...... Better ask a. Daddy or b. Your daddy." He'll either understand the subtle nuance (or not).
When SKids ask questions that are out of my jurisdiction, I will say "You'll need to ask your mom" or "don't forget to ask your dad." I don't refer to "mommy" without the determiner unless I'm talking to the dogs. "Wanna sit in mommy's lap?" That's because the dogs know her as mommy and me as daddy. Weird, right?
Interestingly, the SKids pick up on this, and I think SS15 thinks I prefer the dogs over him because I keep that determiner "your" in the discussions when talking to the SKids about their mom and dad, but not when talking to the dogs. And he's right! I love those dogs! Him? Uhh... he's OK, sometimes.
“Your SO is calling her
“Your SO is calling her "mommy" implies that relationship is still active to the kid because he's not saying the determiner word "your" mommy.”
Exactly. Using the word “mommy” makes it feel like they are still together, one family. The little word “your” makes a huge difference.
And I don’t think it’s an insecurity thing, just uncomfortable to hear. I don’t have any objections regarding the child (10 years old) naming his mother “mommy”. Weird to hear it from an adult man tho..
Why is it uncomfortable to
Why is it uncomfortable to hear, if it's not due to insecurity? Would you feel the same way if he said "Grandma and not Your Grandma"? as someone asked above.
Even if you forget the comma,
Even if you forget the comma, you can infer from context whether it was an invitation to Grandma to eat dinner, or an invitation to eat Grandma for dinner.
I think the same inference to context has to be used here. If this is the only issue OP has with her SO in how he regards BM, I think the OP needs to let it go. It should be clear what he means, and it's language that will likey change as the child gets older and refers to his mom as "Mom" instead of "Mommy".
If, however, SO still treats BM like they are a couple or has some pretty loose boundaries, I can see why it would be irritating, and would have a case for the change in language (though I'd rather have other boundaries in place before tackling someone's use of language).
I'd equate this to the use of the Oxford comma versus the example you gave. Under the right circumstances, it's unnecessary. When you talk about strippers, Hitler, and Stalin, you need both commas unless the strippers are named Hitler and Stalin. If you're talking about Pol Pot, Hitler, and Stalin, that second comma is really just preferential; it doesn't change anything even if one person prefers it over the other.
I think the same applies here: if boundaries are in place, this seems like a little thing to be picky about.
Hmm
maybe that's why my Ss, when he was in the pre teen years, accused me of liking the dog more than him.
Interesting....
I’m saying a lot of what
I’m saying a lot of what other’s above me already said but here ya go-
Your ex-husband isn’t the child’s “sweetie”. You partner’s ex is the child’s “mommy”. It is a VERY different situation between a pet name between adults and what a child calls the parent.
Your partner is speaking to his child about his “mommy”. When we do the same with SO’s kids it’s “mom” because that’s what THEY call her. If THEY called her “mommy” then it would be “mommy”.
What your partner should NOT do is call the child’s parent by name to the child. He shouldn’t tell his son he needs to call “Sarah”. (Replace with whatever her name is). That is an adult name to be used between adults.
Why? Why is using a name bad?
Why? Why is using a name bad? I have plenty of friends and acquaintances who call their parents only by name and seems like they have absolutely normal relationships and family dynamics.
Really? I don't know one
Really? I don't know one single person who doesn't call their bio parent "mom" or "dad". My mom is 84, when did she stop being my mom?
Yeah...I can't imagine
Yeah...I can't imagine calling my mom by her first name. Weird.
She's my mom (and she's like, totally the best!) :)
I’ve called my mum by her
I’ve called my mum by her first name since I was 18, and she called her mum by her first name as well. I also call her ‘mum’, and any other nickname we’ve got for her, but I usually call her by her name.
I’d never do that to my dad, because to him it would be disrespectful. My mum doesn’t mind at all though, as she’s said herself, ‘why would I mind? That’s my name’. Doesn’t stop her from being my mum in the slightest!
It's one thing for an adult
It's one thing for an adult kid to CHOOSE to call their parent by their name. It is completely different when one parent removes that title (which is also a title of respect) from the other. It tells the child "your parent is no different than any other adult, so you don't have to respect them as a parent". It's a tactic used by some parents to alienate their child from the other parent. Another similar tactic is to force the child to call another person "Mom" or "Dad" who isn't their parent. It puts that person in a position of respect that isn't theirs to own.
The only time either of my SD
The only time either of my SD's called their parents by their first name.. it was sort of done in a "challenging way".. as in.. "now I'm grown.. I can relate with you as an adult..don't have to listen to you".. this was a thing tried on by my YSD as a teen.. and quickly shot down by my DH. Of course, she still calls her mom "karen" because she knows it gets her goat.
It’s parental alienation 101.
It’s parental alienation 101.
How would you respond if you have a child and that child’s kindergarten teacher ask them “How’s Rachel?” Would your child even know who the teacher is talking about or would they think they have a new classmate. Of course that doesn’t happen because teachers don’t get worked up over an ex.
Good or bad, it's maybe a
Good or bad, it's maybe a cultural thing. I'm 55 in Texas, been to 43 of the US states and 9 countries on 3 continents. It's pretty customary in all the places I've been to use the title when it's a biological link as a sign of respect. Not saying you're wrong, just saying it's customary wherever I've been.
BTW, as a SKid, my SMom was not mom, mommy, or anything like that. I am close to her, though she's still SMom to me, and I call her and refer to her by her name.
As SDad, I'm Java to them, not daddy, dad, pops, dude, or anything else. SS was grousing about me and I overheard him refer to me as "HHHHHHHHHHIM." Big, long H...
If Biomom being called "mommy" bothers you, this may be a rocky road for you, though I do think that you should consider exploring WHY it bothers you. Ask yourself (no need to answer here, this is all for your own journey), is it because you want to some day be called mommy by this child? Do you wish to some day have a child with this man and hearing this from someone else sort of confuses the pecking order? Would any other name bother you?
Stepping is always more complex because most of us MUST deal in subtleties, and subtleties ALWAYS run a risk of misinterpretation. Because of this, the tempered affection you witness from the SKids can just as easily be:
"I love you, but I have a stronger bond with my bioparents and don't want to lavish you with affection because you're somewhere between 'distant aunt who is visiting for the weekend' and 'total stranger in the produce aisle at the grocery store,' and you're therefore nowhere near being worthy of the title of 'parent' in my mind because I never knew you and you never knew me until recently."
- - as it can be - -
"I hate you and wish I could say it, but guess what? My stupid parent chose you without running the decision by me, so I resent you without even taking the time to get to know you. So you're the (choose) Concubine/Sugar Daddy who makes my parent happy, I don't owe you squat - and I'll be damned if I accept anything you have to offer, so let's just keep a veneer of civility so neither of us gets in hot water."
The subtleties do make it harder. DW thinks it ought to be easy, though I know 100% she'd feel super alienated if we swapped roles.
I do not know of anyone who
I do not know of anyone who calls their parents by their name. Except when introducing them to someone new.
As for calling the SKid’s mother “Mommy” when discussing the mother with the SKid. I would just refer to BM as “your mother”. That eliminates any appearance that your DH has an ongoing relationship with his XW.
that’s insane
So when people get divorced, children are supposed to call their parents by the given name instead of “mom and dad”? It’s insane. Instead of addressing roots of your insecurities you advocate for complete insanity. Sure some people call their parents by a given name but not because dad’s girlfriend is insecure. Jeez
Bleh, the whole "mommy" and
Bleh, the whole "mommy" and "daddy" thing in general is irritating to me, so this would bother me too. There's just something so babyish about it. It's mom and dad, especially when it's your DH referring to her. "Ask your mom".
My SO and I just call her Crazy when it's just him and I.
That's personal preferences.
That's personal preferences. There are full grown adults out there who call their parents mommy and daddy. The childs name for their mother is "mommy". That's her identify to the child. It's not dad's place to change that title or identity. More important it's not a step parent's place to change that becuase of insecurity or whatever.
Dad refering to the childs "mommy" has nothing to do with OP.
It's true, It is my personal preference.
It's true, is my personal preference. I was just saying that I can empathize with OP on this. I'm not advocating for her to push for it to be changed. This probably isn't a hill to die on.
My SO's kids are 6 and 3. A
My SO's kids are 6 and 3. A couple years ago, he always referred to BM as Mommy when he was talking to them. Over time and as they've gotten a bit older he has transitioned to mostly "your Mom." He still says Mommy occasionally but it doesn't bother me. I've also heard BM referring to SO as Daddy when she's talking to the kids. If that's still going on when they're teenagers I'll probably be annoyed by it, but for now it's pretty far down my grievance list.
Dd4's dad used to do this
He always referred to North Korea has "mommy" and I met him when his kids were 9 and 10. I have a 9 year old now and she doesn't call me mommy. She calls me mom. My four year old calls me mommy. This would creep me the hell out when he did that. So I feel you
I think a lot of this is kind
I think a lot of this is kind of age dependent on the child. If the kid is like 6 and younger.. I think your DH saying just "mommy" is fine.. it's simple and understandable by the child. Maybe 6-8 or 9.. "your Mommy".. beyond that.. I think "your Mom or Your mother" is reasonable.
What your DH is saying is technically true.. but there is also the matter of fact that it is upsetting you. If he could transition to adding the "your" quicker.. it really is the same thing.. and sometimes our partners should do things for us.. even if the things we want them to do are "stupid" or "not big deals".
When talking to his daughter
When talking to his daughter about her mom, my DH has always said, "Your mom ", so it's never been an issue.
I do get it, married couples with kids, often refer to each other as "mom" or "dad" when talking to the kids, so using that term, without the "your", does imply togetherness and familiarity (that is not there, anymore).
For example, when I talk to my niece about my dad, I say, "Grandpa", because he is part of my family, as well as hers. If I'm talking to her about her grandfather on her other side of the family, I say, "Your Grandpa," because we are not family and I don't have that familiarity with him.
Your partner probably just does it out of habit, but I understand that it can feel kind of like he is still calling her by a pet name.
This is it exactly...well put
This is it exactly...well put.
A couple posters above asked if she'd feel the same way about calling the grandmother "Grandma" to the kids...and I couldn't put my finger on exactly why that wasn't the same thing...but this explains it.
When I talk to my niece and nephews about my mom, I always say "Grandma" and we all know who I mean. They each have their own little pet names for her from when they were very young, but just saying "Grandma" simplifies things. When I'm talking to them about their other grandma (aka the one I'm not also related to), I say Grandma ______ (the grandma's first name) and so do they. Or they say "my grandma" or even "my other grandma." As in: "I was spending the night with my other grandma...and we went swimming!" or whatever.
All these things are subtle but also necessary for clarity...and kids pick up on these distinctions and relationships very early. That's why the "mommy" would bother me. It implies a level of relationship between the kid's dad and mom that no longer exists.
I wouldn't go ballistic over it or anything...but I would try to gradually change it.
So my SSs did this in the
So my SSs did this in the beginning. One was 10, other was 7. It just sounded weird, especially from the older one because he’s huge. I agree that calling her her name is alienation. We just use ‘your mother’. It sounds very formal and doesn’t have the familiar vibe that ‘mommy’ does. And they called my husband daddy and it continued until about six months ago.
To stop it one day, I made the remark in front of all the kids (now 18,15, SS14,SS11), ‘he may be your dad, but he’s my daddy.’ Just because I couldn’t take a 250 lb 14 year old, and a 140 lb 11 year old saying ‘daddy.’ They haven’t uttered it since.
break DH's bad habbit when he
break DH's bad habbit when he says to skid "lets go ask mommy" just look at DH and say "yes, you should ask your mommy" use a friendly/joking face when you say this. Then DH will say "shes not my mommy!" shes skids mommy!" then you could laugh and say "oh, I thought you said lets go ask mommy!" this can all take place in front of Skid. then you can all laugh and start saying "lets go ask YOUR mommy" in the future
This may not be what you want
This may not be what you want to read, but this is a non-issue in my opinion and yes, probably more about your own issues about being "only the girlfriend". If it bothers you, examine why it does. A generic title like "Mommy", has no implication of intimacy to me - and the comparison to your ex being called "Sweetie" is false equivalency as he is an ex Sweetie, but Mommy is not an ex Mommy - these relationships were and are not the same.
I am always amazed at the faux indignation at "Mommy" or "Daddy" ... must be a cultural difference. Not one worth getting in to as far as I am concerned when it is not my right to prescribe what others call each other.
In step-life there are usually bigger battles to fight. This one gets a pass from me.
I agree with OP
I didn't read the whole thread.
It used to drive me bonkers when EXDH used to refer to Biomom to SD as "Mom".
"We can call Mom and see if she knows where your book is."
Over time, on his own, he started to use "Your Mom". Which I preferred.
Referring to bio-parent as "Mom" or "Dad" rather than "Your Mom" or "Your Dad" to me implies a sense of familiarity that shouldn't exist now that parents are divorced.
Its not a hill worth dying on.
Here's another thought. It never would have occurred to me, as a Stepmother, to refer to EXDH as "Dad" to SD. As in, "Lets call Dad, maybe he knows where your book is". Instead it was always: "Lets call your Dad".
So is "Mom" and "Dad" only allowed to be used by the First Family?
Another thought,
...maybe helps to put it into perspective.
I've noticed that determiner word, "your" is pretty significant in a lot of scenarios. For instance, let's say I bought a really nice blender.
To me, it's MY blender. I picked it out, I paid for it, I brought it home, I opened the box and set it up... Mine, right? Of course.
DW comes in, "What didja get?"
"A blender! Niiiiice, right?"
"Yeah, awesome!"
Now it's sort of hers and mine.
Thing1 and Thing2 come over. "What's THAT?"
DW says, "It's Java's blender. Nice, right?"
"Meh." Teenagers, right? Everything is meh, AT FIRST.
A week goes by... Thing1 and Thing2 see me using it, and they want a delicious smoothie, too. But they don't ask me. They wait till I'm out of earshot, then ask DW, "So, how does this work? I wish I could have a smoothie..." So DW makes each of them a smoothie. Then they go gaaaagaaaaaaaa over it. Next thing I know, Thing1 and Thing2 are blending all sorts of stuff in it without my knowledge. Even on days these twerps are supposed to be eating their dad's groceries, they're eating ours and blending the hell out of stuff in my blender. GRRRRRR...
And NOW, the three of them are calling it (whose?)
Not my blender.
Not OUR blender.
It's THE blender. This way, they don't have to take any responsibility, and they get to enjoy it all they want at will. Friends coming over, sleepovers, school projects, WHO CARES??? It's THE blender.
Then it breaks.
"Java, your blender broke." It was never their responsibility because they never took responsibility - and now that it's broken, it became mine, as if I broke it in a store with signs all over that say "I break it, I cry... You break it, you buy."
Subtle. But it's everything, and they know it.
I get where you’re coming
I get where you’re coming from. Seeing as about half the people responding see it one way and the other half sees it the other, I don’t think it’s necessarily an insecurity. To me, there’s a certain sense of intimacy in referring to someone as ‘mom’ instead of ‘my’ mom or ‘your’ mom.
I heard BM refer to DH as Dad once & it sent chills down my spine, I think because it made me feel outside ‘their’ family and felt quite intimate. DH always refers to her as ‘your mom’ to the boys, though I’ve never asked him to do that.
I think some of us see it as an intimate reference, and some of us don’t. There’s nothing wrong with either point of view, though if it really bothers you you need to talk to DH about it.
Bad comparison
I think it is fine to ask SO to refer to his ex as ths kids mom or mommy. I would not differentiate between mom, mummy, mommy, etc. Fine to ask him to say YOUR mum, whatever.
But comparing mommy with sweetie, is WAY off base, and you will likely lose credibiltiy with him. If you cannot accept that, you are in for many fights. Mom and Dad, and any versions of that name should be reserved for biological parents, and IMHO, it is an attempt at parental alienation to refuse to allow the kid to use those words.
OP, if you cannot accept that the kid has a mom, you need to look for a man who does not have kids.
Since my partner played the
Since my partner played the “I’m just used to calling her that” card, I think the comparison is not that off. I was used to calling my husband “sweetie”, should I continue just because it was a habit even tho it would be wrong and hurtful towards my partner?
And no, I don’t have anything against the mom as a person or the fact that the child has a BM. I’m not wanting the kid to call me mom either. But my SO calling the kids mother “mommy” makes it feel a bit intimate to me and gives off a vibe that the three of them still are one. Even tho they are absolutely not.
Wake up and smell the roses
The mom is still the mom, even after the divorce. No, she is not Sarah. She is the mom. Your ex is no longer your sweeties. It is not about what anyone is used to calling someone, it is about one relationship (parental) goes on, but ones does not (romantic). Find a guy without kids.
I think you would be better
I think you would be better off with a man wuth no kids because if yiu are that worked up about this and that insecure and you two aren’t even married, it’s all going downhill from now
Funny how people assume one
Funny how people assume one is “worked up” by just posting in a forum and asking for different perspectives. But I get how some people may get a bit confused not knowing anything else about my relationship with my partners kid ect.
I honestly don't understand
I honestly don't understand the point when people make comments like this!
and I agree with you. I would barf if DH called his ex "Mommy" JFC. The thought of it makes me drool in a bad way. Gag. YOUR MOM - fine. YOUR MOTHER - even better. obvs not by her given name, but even if the kid is little then Your Mom isn't going to freak them out, and if it does maybe they can just start to learn that different people call people by other names and whatever, it's a part of growing up.
"Mummy" honestly, gag.
He'll need to get used to not
He'll need to get used to not calling her that, just like he (presumably) got used to not calling her "sx kitten" and "sugar dumpling" and "kitten lips." Uhh, he DID stop that, RIGHT? Just asking...
Hahaa! No, he doesn’t really
Hahaa! No, he doesn’t really have fond memories of her and the relationship between then was very bad for very long.
It sounds like he's only
It sounds like he's only saying it to the kid. I think that's totally normal. When talking to me Psycho is "the ex." He only uses the term mom when he has to and when talking to the skids. Because that's easiest for them to understand. If he started claling her "the ex" it would likely cause more issues than not, a lot of questions and confusion, especially for SD5, and it woul dundoubtedly make it back to Psycho in the form of SD5 calling her "the ex" which would then end in a dramatic pissing contest from Psycho.
It's just simpler during the few times she come up to say "your mom." Even for me. And they call me mom too. LMAO
I know down south "mommy" is
I know down south "mommy" is a common nickname, but in my neck of the woods, anyone over the age of 6 saying "mommy" will probably earn a few side eyes.
It bothers you because of the implied intimacy and you told him this? And he still does it? I would find it not only weird and annoying, but now hurtful as he doesn't seem to care how it makes you feel.
Except that she compaed it with her comparing it with
She says it is the same as her calling an ex sweetie. That is crazy. i am guessing he is shaking his head.
It's how she feels and it's
It's how she feels and it's not crazy simply because you disagree. She gave the best example she could given it's an incomparable situation as she doesn't have any kids from a prior relationship.
Marraige is about compromise and looking out for each other's hearts. It costs him exactly nothing to insert a "your" in his phrasing.
And if she had just said put the YOUR in
It would be fine, but read her follow ups. She wants the kid to call his mom by her first name. She has to respect the kid has a mom.
No. I don’t want the kid to
No. I don’t want the kid to call his mother by her name. Never said that. I would perfer my partner calling her by name or simply add the word “your”.
You posted about how you know
Many people who call their parents by their first names.
I did. Because someone posted
I did. Because someone posted “What your partner should NOT do is call the child’s parent by name to the child. He shouldn’t tell his son he needs to call “Sarah”. (Replace with whatever her name is). That is an adult name to be used between adults.” And I was intrigued that why is it so bad or not normal since I know people to whom it’s the norm
If you would pay more attention to what you are reading you wouldn’t have misunderstood me.
When the reason being said is
When the reason being said is HABIT, then it’s not good enough of a reason, is it?
And thanks for the suggestion to find a guy with no kids. Looking around this forum, you could say that almost under any post so you’ve found a pretty versatile tip. Keep on using that, super helpful! I’m wondering why aren’t you a therapist?
Have a nice day!
Personally, I don't feel it's
Personally, I don't feel it's a good enough reason but he may not really hear how it sounds unless you talk to him about it. A lot of habits have to change after a divorce.
I think I have a girl crush
I think I have a girl crush on you now.
And no. “Habit” is not a good enough reason. It’s another version of: “Well, this is how we always did it BEFORE!” which SMs frequently hear from both divorced dads and society at large when they ask for any kind of consideration or change in their household.
The implication, of course, is that everything was just fine before YOU...so why are YOU making such a fuss about this or that? This is how we always did it BEFORE!!!
It’s a disempowering argument that implies that the SMs needs, preferences, and desires are less important than everyone else in the household...particularly the kids. I mean...how rude and messed up is that?
We’d never say that in other contexts. In fact, we regularly assume that starting a new relationship requires compromise, give-and-take, empathy...etc. Only in the case of SMs do we assume it’s right and natural for the relationship to be all take (from the dad and kids) and no give (to the SM).
In divorce, the kids aren't
In divorce, the kids aren't getting divorced; just the parents. But everyone experiences and feels it, and everyone must get over it. The kid needs to learn to understand "Did you ask your mom?" means HIS mom, because she is and always will be - and because all parties know everyone has to get over the divorce and keep it civil.