Struggling with SO partner with 2 adult SS
HI I am new to this forum so please bear with me. I am (or was up until a few weeks ago) a partner (61) of a wonderful woman (56) who I feel is my soulmate, who has 2 adult SS (SS1 20 and SS2 24). I do not have kids. We have been together for 6.5 years. Her ex H was/is quite a toxic character and has tried hard to break us up through the SSs. We live separately but very close to each other (1 mile). SS1 moved to live with his BF 18 mnths ago and is in his 3rd year in college and doing well. The BF lives on the other side of the city is married again and has a son (10) with new partner. SS2 (24) just completed his college degree in another city in May 24, and this is where the problems ramped up. I get on ok with the 2 SSs - they are respectful in general and we have done some things together. My approach is uncle like. With my SO I really want us to be a team and to work together and build a life together (having our own place) and had been asking SO since Jan 23 about us getting a place together or making a plan to do so. SO was not very enthusiastic. She owns her own house and regards it as her adult sons 'home' which she feels she has to provide. It is also the house that she grew up in and which she inherited when her father died and she moved back in with her now ex H and 2 kids. I own my own apartment. I left it for a couple of months and then raised it again as I am not that keen on living separately in to the future (though having read some of the posts here - I'm gathering that isnt easy as a steparent). I knew that SS2 (24) would be finishing up in college in May and I said again to my SO about us making a plan before he finished so that there would be clarity for me , her and him. SS2 had a part time job in college near us which then made him permanent in May 24. He is hardworking but does not have many close friends and has not had a relationship with a girl in the time that I have known him (6.5years). He works long and unsociable hours - would not have the greatest personal hygiene and spends a lot of his time gaming. My SO is concerned about his mental health. Anyway long story short, while I was hoping that myself and SO would finalise our plan for our place - nothing happened on that end and lo and behold SO moved SS2 back in to her house in June24 - there was no discussion with me on this. The arrangement is that SS2 does not pay rent but splits utility bills. SO asks me - where else could he go?. The problem for me is that our relationship is not prioritised and that of SS2 is. SO and SS2 are now doing the things toegether that I wanted to do with her - i.e. living together. He has become like a mini husband. At SS2s graduation (Oct 24) - I wasnt included in any of the discussions about what was happening or any kind of celebration. I felt very excluded and unimportant.. In Nov 24 SO announced to me that she was thinking of getting a dog - not would we think of getting a dog but she was thinking of getting a dog. I was really angry and hurt but calmed down enough to speak to her afterwards and explained how I felt and ask her why she was thinking of getting a dog but not looking at us making a plan for our place? That didnt go well. Anyway fast forward to 2 weeks before christmas - me and SO had been arguing a lot and drifting apart a bit - we had a big row and SO said that she couldnt do this anymore. Se we have been apart since then with no contact. Then last week I was having a small medical procedure and SO texted me to see if I needed any help - no mention of anything else. I reckon that we are done but I find it hard to give up on someone who is a great person and really lovely and I love her, but she is very guilty around her adult sons and they are her priority. Would welcome any thoughts. Thanks.
It sounds like you both may
It sounds like you both may want different things from this relationship. Your SO is a mother to adult children.. but she still feels like she needs to be there as a support system for them.. and lots of parents of younger adults allow them to live at home for a time... finding housing can be expensive.. and giving them a head start is something lots of parents do.. it's not really all that unusual.. it sounds like he is a bit introverted.. and as his mom.. she tries to support him.
The house is an issue for more than just her children.. it is a family home.. she has a LOT of history.. and since it is a family home.. selling it may just flat out not be an option she wants to consider.. so what you would need to work out is what does that mean? would you live there with her? does she want that? or is she just really preferring to keep her own independant home.. because maybe she isn't as vested in being a full time couple as you are? or maybe she had poor history with her ex and has a hard time not worrying she would feel trapped..
You live quite close together.. and maintaining your own separate homes at your age definitely has benefits.. to both of you.. maybe. I would probably say that at this point.. 6.5 years in.. if you both hadn't agreed to a closer path forward.. it's because it won't work.
Plenty of people are fine with a long term committed relationship .. where they don't live together. You do sound jealous of her child that lives there.. and I'm not sure why you would be.. it's not like he is her romantic partner.. he is her child.. and from what you say.. he is respectful to you.. both kids are.. despite their toxic father's influence.
I guess in the end.. if you truly want a relationship where you marry ... buy a home together... don't have any kids involved..you might need to look for a diffrent partner.
But.. if she is important enough.. maybe you just need to discuss your insecurities and concerns?
I do not have the falacy of
I do not have the falacy of the deification of a family home in my genetics. Growing up and throughout my adult life I have lived in dozens of homes. All with great memories, some truly beautiful, some, even more notable due to the quirky oddball stuff that drove even deeper memories.
But, a house is just a structure to keep you out of the elements, It is not anything sacred. The people, make the magic regardless of where that magic is made .... structurally speaking.
I would be hard pressed to stay with a partner that limited my life, our marriage, and even the lives of any children due to their perspective that a wood/concrete/etc... box is something sacred. IMHO, it most definately is not anything but a structure. I would be of the mind to sell, or make it a rental if keeping it was some kind of spiritual must. That way it does not limit life or detract from the partnership.
But, as a life long nomad, I do not have the sacred status of a home to reference, or limit my life view.
Remember, sacred cows make the best burgers. That includes the myth of the sacred family home. Particularly when the situation is one of a blended family. No matter what the history of the home may be, it is not the family home for the blended family. It may be the family home of part of a blended family. Though that family is failed and I for one would not want to bring that baggage forward or accept being brought forward into my new relationship.
Just my thoughts of course.
Sounds like the relationship
Sounds like the relationship is already over. I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. Grieving a relationship and what we feel it could have been is hard. Look after yourself.
I would stay no-contact. That
I would stay no-contact. That house has been in their family through several generations. Your ex has no desire to change ANYTHING about the house or her living arrangements for a new relationship. You are barking up the wrong tree trying to get her to be what you want.
Struggling with SO partner with 2 adult SS
Thanks for the honest feedback and comments - its really good to get different perspectives. There are a lot of attachments to the house for SO - and yes i think its becoming clear that we are lookiing for different things.
Some people get so attached
Some people get so attached to houses that everything else suffers. Reminds me of the true story "Grey Gardens." That dysfunctional codependent mom and daughter who were both batsh!t crazy and lived in squalor vs selling and getting something they could afford and keep up.
You can not have two adult men
Living in the same house. Your SO knows it's DS or you. She has to make a choice. She chooses DS. You are out. You can be friends with benefits,, But not living together
As for the two Skidult sons
As for the two Skidult sons of your maybe partner.... nope. They need to launch If they are special needs, they need to be in a group home making their lives.
Time for mommy to cut the cord. That she is so immersed in her adult children in her mid 50s is alarming. She is at the age where retirement and living her best life with you should be the focus.
As lovely as she may be, she is not partner material. She is demonstrably totally unwilling to integrate into your life and into an equity life partnership with you and at most only marginally interested in you integrating into her life.
Do not feel that you have missed out on a thing if this travesty of a relationship is in fact over. There are good people out there who are actually viable adults, even for those of us in our 50s/60s, rather than spawn immersed failed adults without lives of their own.
Save yourself. She... is beyond rescue.
IMHO.
Good luck.
IMHO.