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Momof2Girls's picture

I literally feel like my SD is an unwanted house guest who moved in 5 months ago to go to community college near my home. She has always lived with her BM and decided to take a chance and live with us, go to school in CA. My husband is paying full tuition , no help from BM in anyway.

 

I feel stress and burden every day. Like my responsibility has been overwhelmed. I told my H this tonight and he said she can help more around the house and she is so good with her little sisters. I’m not looking for help!!! I’m looking for a fucking break and alone time. I never get any alone time and get excited when my H travels for work.

 

Now my SD is here and going back to her BM home for Xmas and I pray every night that she won’t come back after her break. 

As I write this I see that I want so badly for her to get a social life and make friends but deep down I want friends and a social life of my own. It’s pullinf teeth to ask to go out without my H.

 

ugh so many thoughts but mainly I want my SD out of my house. I want my family of 4...

Momof2Girls's picture

Her presence just annoys me. It’s a transition for her but a huge one for me. One day I’m a family of 4 to a family of 5. We have settled into a routine and all that has changed. 

I used to be able to run downstairs in my underwear or not wear a freaking bra at night in my jammies and now that has been taken away. I guess that’s the best way to describe it.

I feel limited on having friends of my own, as H likes us to do things together. But every now and then I Need a god damn break from him and my kids!

fairyo's picture

I think you should wear what you want in your own home- including your birthday suit-that would soon send her packing!

tog redux's picture

Is she always hanging around the house, is that what makes you crazy? Seems like your little kids would drive you crazier.

Can she take the little kids out somewhere so you have alone time?

Momof2Girls's picture

Yes she is always home especially at night when I want alone time watching tv with my husband

fourbrats's picture

attends school, works, is helpful, adores her little sisters and generally sounds like a good kid. So it sounds like this is a you issue and not a her issue. You could ask her to babysit so you can go out. You could ask your husband for date nights and ask her to babysit. You could hire a sitter and do the same. You have the power to have a social life. 

In terms of your SD getting a social life, it takes time. Especially at a community college where the age range of students varies and most also work. 

TwoOfUs's picture

Sorry...but there's just a difference between going out with your DH and having the freedom to relax at the end of a long day in your own home with the people you love. 

Doesn't matter how good the skids are. Mine are mostly good. I prefer going out with them to having them in my home. Thank goodness none of them live with us and then they do come over, it's usually for a limited time like for a meal or a movie. I would go out of my mind if they were living here full-time. Wouldn't matter if they were perfect angels in every way. They still feel like house guests to me...and who wants a permanent houseguest? Sounds like a nightmare. 

When my skids are around...I feel like I'm constantly 'on call' and unable to relax and be myself...like I would feel if there were a guest in my home. I realize this is a 'me' issue...but it's also something I can't change. And I deserve to feel comfortable and relaxed in my own home that I'm paying for. Maybe if they did come full-time I'd be able to figure out a way to turn off the constant 'hospitality' feeling...or maybe I'd just disengage enough to get through it gritting my teeth. Or maybe I'd move out. Not sure...but I do know I would hate it. 

ESMOD's picture

I also agree that this issue is more to do with the OP vs her SD specifically.  OP doesn't want the extra person in her home.  She seems to feel limited and I am thinking has a loss of privacy as a result of the girl's presence.  What she wants is for the girl to not be there.. but the girl is her father's daughter.. just as OP's girls are hers.. and it sounds like for the most part the 18 yo is not doing anything that would be objectionable.. except for the fact that she exists.. and OP doesn't want her there.

 

Now, there are options... but they would come at a cost.  Would OP be OK with her husband helping the girl find another living situation.. perhaps with others her own age?  That would be more money..but she would have her privacy and home back as she likes it.  She mentions that the girl does work.. not sure if that money is going towards her education.. or not.. or whether it could help fund at least part of a roommate situation.

It sounds like the SD is a bit introverted.. and new to the area so hasn't had a chance to meet people much yet.  Perhaps dad could pay for a membership to a gym... or fund her joining a kickball league.. or some other extracuricular activity.  I think OP may be forgetting that it isn't easy for everyone to make new friends at the drop of a hat.

Now, that doesn't mean that OP needs to be arranging her household around this "kidult"  She has school.. a job.. OP needs to only worry about planning things for her girls.. include the SD in meals at home etc.. or inform her when they will not be there for meals.  Also, maybe SD should be babysitting a bit for OP and her DH so they can get out together to do some adult things?  I'm not sure what responsibiility OP has for the older girl anyway?  she should be 100% able to care for herself.. and if anything should be making things easier for OP.. but I think it's the mental view that SD is an invader.. that is causing the problems.

If it's not possible to have her DH move the girl out and pay for an alternate housing situation... the current situation maybe needs to be adjusted so that everyone is more comfortable.. but that also means OP would compromise as well.. just unilaterally saying she doesn't want the girl there with no real reason other than she just doesn't like it.. isn't particularly fair to DH or SD

Jcksjj's picture

I get what you're saying about the houseguest thing. Even with people I love and want around visiting after awhile it's enough and it's just kind of a relief and more comfortable when they leave. It's just not the same to live with someone that you dont have a certain bond and comfort level with even if they are polite and helpful etc.

The not being able to go out without SO sounds like a separate issue though. You need to be able to do that no matter what to have a healthy relationship.

Momof2Girls's picture

I know I’m the issue. I met with a therapist today. She was very helpful to make me understand this is a transition. I’m going to continue seeing her to work through this

lorlors's picture

anyone would find it difficult having a non-family member suddenly move in with them. It is weird. You shouldn't expect yourself to love the scenario or think it is wonderful.

Jcksjj's picture

Agreed, it's your husbands relative not yours. Why would you feel instantly comfortable? Wouldn't be any dif than if your MIL or SIL moved in.

Momof2Girls's picture

I also know it takes time to make friends BUT you also have to make an effort put yourself out there. SD has social anxiety so makes it worse

ESMOD's picture

It might help if you can figure out a way to have some empathy for her situation.

While this situation does benefit her ability to go to school.. she is also having to adjust to living in a new area and in a home with new people.. one of whom probably isn't doing a wonderful job of hiding her irritation at her presence.

Also, her social anxiety isn't a choice...it's part of who she is.  It would be almost like getting irritated with someone that has a physical disability that makes walking difficult and then remarking that "they would have an easier time of it.. if they just got up and walked to the store instead of relying on me for a ride".

But, I also get that having another person live in the home can be uncomfortable... It requires adjustment on everyone's part.  It sounds like a great option would be to enlist the older girl's help in watching the younger two so that the couple could go on a date once a week.  Then, perhaps OP could go do something on HER own once or twice a week?  Then.. maybe her DH could take his daughter out once a week.. to give OP a break... now we are up to 3 of 4 nights that OP doesn't have to deal with her SD.. Then.. maybe she can get her DH to set her SD with one night activity.. maybe an art class.. or yoga.. or maybe OP could be encouraged to go to the library.. Gym? one or two nights.. then maybe things wouldn't feel so overwhelming. 

There are options and ways this can be made more bearable.. but OP has to work on her own feelings as well.. it is her home.. but also her husband's home.. and he should be able to help his daughter.. just as OP may be interested in assisting her own kids when the time comes.  But, at the root of this.. OP and her DH need to try to figure out a way to make things work.  Part of it will involve OP being able to articulate without attacking his SD and just making him defensive.

lorlors's picture

I think some commenters are missing the point. It really doesn't matter how 'nice' SD is. It's extremely difficult and uncomfortable having an interloper in your own home even if it is DH's daughter.

Momo, I have SD(almost17) living with us full time now. I can totally relate to you wanting some alone time with your husband to watch TV or just hang out in the living room. I bought a TV for SD's room so if she wants to watch a show, she goes there. I find it stifling having her around all the time so that was one workable solution for me to get a little peace in the evenings.

That might sound mean but she isn't my daughter and I don't want her around me 24/7 listening in to every conversation I have. It is like having a weird, introverted housemate that I feel utterly uncomfortable around so workable boundaries were introduced to stop me going insane!

Momof2Girls's picture

Thanks. I bought her a tv for her room as a HS graduation gift. Lately she chooses to sit in the same room with us and watch Tv on her phone while my husband and I watch our DVr shows or Netflix

All great points she isn’t my family and I have never felt as she was my child. Now she is an “adult” and changing the dynamic of my home. Hopefully with time I’ll adjust or she will move out.

 

Ispofacto's picture

Maybe a night or two a week of watching tv in your room would give you the solitude you need to recharge.

 

lorlors's picture

she never wanted to watch the TV in her room at all but still sat with DH and I. I asked DH to spell it out for her in that we need couple time ALONE after dinner in the evenings and hanging out with us all the time wasn’t an option.

In an intact nuclear family they may all feel comfortable hanging out together but in a blended family there needs to be a greater awareness of other people’s space and to not be up in it all the time. 

Took a long time for SD to take the hint.

Momof2Girls's picture

My H feels I am now pushing her away which I am. I have no clue how to explain to him that I need alone time away from her

 

It might be good for him to say hey go watch tv in your room sometimes but I know he won’t cause she has had so much anxiety lately.

TwoOfUs's picture

I don't know...even in my intact, nuclear family my parents had alone time in the living room after dinner on certain nights. This was back before streaming was a thing and there was 'appointment television.' My parents were never big TV watchers but they did like the news and they went through phases of having a weekly show they liked to watch together while they were unwinding. And they didn't want us around saying the news was 'boring' or asking endless questions about the show they were trying to watch. 

For a while...it was ER on Thursday nights, and we all knew to find something else to do for that 1-2 hours when they were watching the news followed by ER (we had our own rooms to hang out in, after all). Then it was 24 on Tuesday nights...and the same ritual. 

I feel like it's ONLY in second families where poor stepmoms can't ever ask for a break without being accused of not liking the damn kids or being exclusionary. Parents tell their own kids to go away and bother someone else for a while all the time. I know my mom would make me leave the house sometimes if I was wound up...she'd say: "You're stir-crazy and you're driving me crazy. Go hang out with a friend or something." And I'd drive off and go see a movie or shop at a thrift store or hang out with a friend...because my own mother wanted me out of her hair. I wasn't damaged by it...just needed that shove out the door sometimes because I'm an introvert myself. 

Stepmoms want the same thing with kids who aren't even theirs and everyone expects them to have a good enough "reason" for not wanting the kid around or act like the world is about to spin off its axis if the skid gets excluded every once in a while. Puh-Lease. 

OP doesn't have to have a reason to not want to be around the skid. Sometimes adults just want to be able to relax in their own homes without the kids around...that's perfectly normal and somehow "allowed" (and even expected) for bio-parents but not for stepparents.

OP - if I were you I'd establish a couple evenings a week where the living room is off limits to ALL kids so you and your DH can unwind together without interference. That's totally normal. Frankly, it's weird and annoying that she sits there watching a DIFFERENT show from you on her phone while you're trying to watch your show. My parents would never have allowed that behavior from one of their kids. Even when we were allowed in the TV room...the rule was we could watch what everyone else was watching or we could go elsewhere. No sitting there reading a book or playing a game or texting while everyone else was trying to enjoy a show together...that's weird, rude, and distracting. Yet it's another behavior that seems common in second families. My skids would regularly sit with us while we were trying to watch something and watch dumb YouTube clips or Vines with the sound down low...and my DH would say nothing. 
 

lorlors's picture

Hell yes. You are so on the money with your comment. It IS the norm that step parents are just expected to deal with stepkids being around all the time. As with you, my mum frequently told us to get out of her hair/find something to do/p1ss off.

Why is it different in a second family?

grace8205's picture

I get it. Skid24 just moved back in and has never lived in this house with us. It’s a little strange and I prefer if he wasn’t here. At least this house is a 2 story house with a living room with TV on the main, basement with a bid screen tv and a large bonus room on the second floor. When we did up the rules before he moved in, it was stated that the bonus room (which is right outside the master bedroom) is off limits to skid. I wanted one tv room that was ours only. 

DH did want it in there, but I reminded him that in the old house we has a loft with a couch and tv that was off limits to all kids and I always want a room of our own besides our bedroom. He didn’t fight it anymore. 

One room that does not smell of young man, and no skid mess and privacy. Otherwise it would not work for me. 

So far skid stays in his bedroom in the basement and watches tv, fine by me. 

oatsnhoney's picture

Yikes that would be a nightmare for me. Maybe suggest she live on campus so she can try make friends and not isolate so much? Would be healthier for her if she got out there more, plus if the dorm is near you she can still visit and have the safety net of you guys. Could be a positive for both of you. But I guess you’d have to convince your DH of that.

Momof2Girls's picture

I wish desperately that a dorm was an option but she goes to a junior college. The girl has so much anxiety that I’m really scared she is going to be failure to launch.

 

i don’t know how much I can deal with. She is a good kid but I have no relationship with her. She has lived in another state the last 3 plus years. 

My H is trying to make up for lost time and I’m sure feels tons of guilt not having her grow up in his household.

 

evilstepmother666's picture

Was seriously thinking of paying the 14 1/2 year old stepdaughters bum mom myself just to take her kid back. So we can be together. Keeping 2 separate houses now until she turns 18. I don't want to live with her

lorlors's picture

Hate having SD living with us. Yesterday she took our dog out for a walk and wore DH thongs (flip flops) as they were at the back door. DH later went to go put them on and SD jumped up all sheepish. Turns out she got caught short whilst walking the dog and pissed down her leg and onto DH’s thongs. Bear in mind, we have a shih tzu so she was out with him for max 10/15 minutes, not taking a husky out for hours on end.

This at almost 17?!!!! Hand on heart, I can honestly say I have never pissed on someone else’s shoes lol.

Her hygiene is bloody appalling and I hate having her in my house with her dirty/smelly/filthy ways.

lorlors's picture

It is unbelievable. Literally unbelievable. No, she is not disabled in anyway but pissed her pants all the same.

It is like living in the frickin twilight zone.

Livingoutloud's picture

Your DH is a problem. Why can’t you go somewhere without him or hang out with girlfriends sometimes. It’s abusive to not allow one’s wife to do things without him. I’d not tolerate such nonsense. I understand horror of living with adult SD, but I dont understand not being able to go anywhere without DH. 

Sweetmexica's picture

I can totally  sympathize with you. When my DH and SD moved in two years ago it was a hard adjustment. I had been living on my own for the last six years. Then it was like a double whammy having to get use to living with a man then on top of that a 7 year old. He worked graveyard so I was left stuck taking care of this little girl at night and could not continue my normal life. I felt I lost all privacy and alone time.  I understand I had to make sacrifices but it was still hard.  What I came up with so I could have some alone time was to send her to bed at 7:30.  Till this day I still make SD9 go to bed at 7:30. And the times she wants to hangout in the living room when I need alone time I tell her she had a nice room filled bunch of toys and books where she can hangout. The livingroom is the only place I can be alone or in my car. Its gotten a little easier I no longer suffer from depression due to this huge change in my life.