Separating Finances?
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I've seen the advice on here before to separate finances.
Just curious: for those of you that do this, who pays for household items, like furniture and home repairs? Do you split the cost 50/50?
Who pays when you go out to eat or go to the movies?
Do you each have separate bank account and have a joint account together?
DH and I have separate
DH and I have separate accounts. One week he pays for groceries and the next I do. I tally the bills and give him an amount, he then withdrawls the money and hands it to me. We split everything 50/50. We've thuoght about the joint account for bills but haven't gotten one yet.
I'd like to hear this as
I'd like to hear this as well. DH and I have combined our incomes (he just hands over his check) since moving in together. I'd like to seperate our finances also, but he does not make the same amount of money I do and he won't be able to pay for half of the household expenses. Heck, after paying SS's private school tuition, he'll barely have money to pay half of the mortgage (but then again, the house is in my name), so maybe it be best to just let him handle all the other bills: utlities, insurance, groceries, etc.
I'm interested to hear how people went about seperating after starting out combined.
And I feel so selfish, but my
And I feel so selfish, but my biggest driver for seperating finances is SS13. I don't want to pay for ANYTHING for this kid anymore. I have a good job, receive sufficient child support from my ex and should not have to worry about money, yet I do.
My two houses are in my name and I also DO NOT want SS inheriting any of those as well. Once finances are seperate, I want to get my own living trust set up. Is that even possible or does it have to be me and DH?
Dh and I have separate
Dh and I have separate checking accounts and savings accounts.
He pays the house note and insurance and I pay all other household bills. That is right at 50/50.
We also split groceries/necessities. We also split repairs ect. The only thing we do not split is our own bills. Cars-boats-ect. Each pays their own way on that stuff.
Some stuff is up for discussion…example…say he wants a new expensive couch and I do not want a new couch or to pay for half of an expensive couch. He will then buy couch on his own if he wants it bad enough.
Going out to eat. We don’t eat out a lot but we normally just take turns paying. It works wonderfully for us. We rarely, if ever fight over money.
"We rarely, if ever fight
"We rarely, if ever fight over money."
You are so lucky. It sounds like both of you make about the same amount of money, am I right?
Dh probably makes about 10
Dh probably makes about 10 grand more a year than I do.
So it does not bother you
So it does not bother you that DH contributes the same amount of money that you do even though he makes more?
No...we both make pretty good
No...we both make pretty good money, so the gap is not really very large.
But even so...I would still want to pay half. JMHO. If I could not afford it, then we would need to downsize into something "I" could afford. Or I would need to budget better to be able to afford what I want.
I gotcha. Good for you. The
I gotcha. Good for you.
The problem in my marriage was I made more money, so of course, I was going to contribute more. However, the amounts my exH and I paid towards the bills was not in proportion to the amount of money we made.
While our income split was probably like 60/40 - the way we paid the bills was more like 70/30.
My favorite subject! I would
My favorite subject! I would like some ideas too. We have both a joint account and separate accounts but things get murky. Our finances are pretty much intermingled.
Does anyone use proportional contributions - if DH makes more, he pays more - but what if my kids live with us, and his don't, should he still pay more? For big-ticket items? Should we save more - together or separately? I am very conflicted about what the expectations should be. The way we do it is pretty loosey-goosey and it's ok until some big financial issues come up.
Does anyone have a situation where your DH is retired/will retire before you do - then what happens? Is it better to have separate finances then? Is it realistic?
At one time I had two kids
At one time I had two kids living with just DH and I. At that time we split everything 25%/75%. DH 25% and me 75%. It was fair.
We did it too when we first
We did it too when we first moved in together. It changed after we got married and moved.
If it is still fair, i do not know :-0)
My current DH and I have one
My current DH and I have one joint account. We seem to be able to make it work. We are over 50, and married 3 years (almost). In my previous marriage, we had 3 accounts, mine, his, and ours. "Ours" had equal percentages of our earnings going into it, and it was sufficient to cover living expenses, including entertainment. My ex was irresponsible with money, and I needed to be in control of the "ours" checkbook (before online bill paying) to avoid overdraft fees, etc. That need continues into this marriage, and I do all the bill paying. We both have ATM cards to the joint account, and we have separate credit card accounts, but they are paid with the joint account's money. I really like being with someone I can trust with access to my money, and who trusts me with his. However, I own the house we live in, and he has no legal connection to it. I own my own car, but I am joint on his. My retirement accounts are separate from his. I think big assets and things like 401K accounts and insurance policies are the issues to deal with in step situations, especially if you both have children but none together (like we do), so inheritances are clearly defined. Things do happen, and you have to be prepared for the unlikely events life has in store.
If you are younger, and only one of you has children, the situation is different. I think any woman (or man) needs to have access to enough emergency money to handle unexpected events, and have a "nest egg" if the marriage fails. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst!
What do you think is fair in
What do you think is fair in this case. DH brings home about 75% of what I bring home from my job. I also get another $1400 for child support for my three kids that we have about 65% of the time. SS is with us full time except he is every other weekend with his mom and she pays ZERO in child supprt.
I'd really like to separate things for many reasons, but I don't want to be unreasonable. Any ideas?
we have our own separate
we have our own separate accounts and we also have a joint checking and savings. his whole check goes into our checking and i give him whatever is left after paying bills and contributing to our savings (i match him dollar for dollar). as the kids age out of child support, he will get more $. we use our savings for home repairs, christmas, vacations, etc... he recently took a pay cut so is now unable to contribute to our savings (praying it's temporary). when he is unable to contribute to savings, my contribution goes into my personal account. i will never supply a penny, either directly or indirectly to his kids and ex wife (unless i choose to do so). dh isn't so responsible with his money and if i contribute more $$ towards bills and savings than he does, he spends on his kids, mother and the rest of his family, so i took control of finances. no way he's going to give more unless OUR needs are met first. i have some personal bills i pay with my account, child support is his bill. not very romantic but i saw how i was going to be ripped off and put a stop to it.
We split household bills
We split household bills based on our incomes. I make a lot more money than DH, so 50/50 doesn't quite work out for us. Our individual bills (student loans, child support, credit cards, etc) are not considered as part of the split.
We each put 15% of our paycheck into savings each month. This money is used to pay for vacations (some including skids, some not), repairs, big ticket household purchases, etc. We also contribute to our own individual retirement accounts.
We alternate grocery shopping each week. Sometimes I pay more, sometimes DH does. Over time, this tends to balance out.
Anything we specifically need for skids, DH buys. Kid shampoo, toothpaste, clothes, shoes, bedsheets, etc .. DH purchases those items.
Anything left after all of that is completely up to us to spend how we want. We have completely separate checking accounts and one joint savings.
All of this being said, we are flexible and understanding with each other too. I don't hold DH to the "rules" 100% of the time and vice versa .. and neither one of us abuses that flexibility.
Some items and repairs we
Some items and repairs we split 50/50. I make more money than him, so sometimes I end up paying more, but I'm ok with that.
When we go out, it varies. Sometimes I pay, sometimes he pays and sometimes we split it.
We actually do not have a joint account and never have. All of our monthly bills get paid directly out of my checking account (most set up before I met him), so he gives me his share plus half of the groceries and other household items monthly. We have a credit card that we put almost all of that stuff on and I just add up what he owes when it comes due.
He is responsible for building up his savings account and I'm responsible for building up mine.
Both SDs are adults now, so child support is a done deal but this has always worked for us so we just keep it this way (we have been together 16 years).
Other people I know have one joint account for the household and their own separate accounts for whatever else.
Different things work for different people but money can be a big issue in a relationship, so it's worth discussing and finding what works best for you.
In my previous marriage, I
In my previous marriage, I made more money than my husband, but I was paying more than my fair share.
Unlike Ana, we weren't able to calculate a percentage. We'd try to do a joint checking account, but he would never put any money in it, so that didn't last.
So then we listed all the household bills, and each person took a certain bill. It was supposed to add up so each person had the same amount of money left over after we paid our respective bills, but it wasn't perfect. I would wind up having less money left over after paying my share of the bills, and on top of that was the one that would spend even more of my money on things for the house and household repairs.
I could never get him to discuss purchases ahead of time. I'd come home to new VCRs, TVs, etc. that had never been discussed with me when our kids needed new clothes/shoes. Every time we'd go out to the movies, it was an argument over who was going to pay for the movie.
Nothingforya - my ex was irresponsible with money, however, he never allowed me any control over his money. He was always getting overdraft fees, making stupid purchases. It ultimately led to our divorce.
"I know I can support myself
"I know I can support myself without DH if he were to die or walk out b/c I'm already doing it."
That's a great feeling to have. That way you know you are together because you want to and not because you have to.
We have separate accounts
We have separate accounts because when we had a joint account, he would get paranoid that I was using "his" money for things (drinking too much does a number on a person) so when we got back together, I insisted on separate accounts. That way he can SEE how much of his own money he blows on what I consider frivolous stuff.
I make more than him even without taking CS into account. Luckily, that is set to end in June.
He gives me a set amount every payday. More if he gets a bonus or OT. He has also said that he is planning on giving me the CS he is paying when he is done with paying it so that I can fast-track paying off all our bills. After the bills are paid off, he wants to still give me the majority of the extra money to put into a savings account for us because he realizes that 1. he is not that great with money and 2. I supported him through a lot of lean times brought on because of the CS and related skid bills.
I don't think there is any "right" or "wrong" way of doing things. It is whatever you agree to that each person thinks is FAIR. That might be different for each couple.
HA! That's great your DH
HA! That's great your DH gives you his money.
If my exH had done the same we'd probably never had gotten divorced in the first place. At first in the marriage he gave me a set amount, but when we moved to a different state things got all out of wack and we never went back to that system.
Thanks for all the replies so
Thanks for all the replies so far. The reason I'm divorced is mainly because of money and I'm trying to make sure I don't make the same mistakes again.
So I have two kids, ages 14 and 7. My SO has none. We currently don't live together, but SO is planning on buying a house soon. He makes almost three times what I do. He has told me he will pay all the bills related to the home, i.e. mortgage, utilities. My name will not be on the house. I will be responsible for groceries and anything my DD's need.
I think we have a pretty good plan laid out so far, but was just trying to see how others handled their finances.
I think you'll be fine if
I think you'll be fine if you've discussed it, you both agree, and you both do what you say you are going to do.
"You don't sound like that
"You don't sound like that type. You seem pretty sensible."
Aww, thanks!
No, I do not expect him to pay for anything for my bios, except if he wants to get them gifts for xmas and birthdays. I DO get CS from my ex. It's not a lot, but he is their father, I don't expect another man to pay for them, same as I would not want to pay for someone else's kid, other than the occasional gift.
You are right that I will be able to save up money to pay for the big things for them. And I will expect my bios to get jobs to help pay for college and apply for scholarships.
I already told my D14 that whatever she saves towards a car I'll match it. I'd probably be able to buy her a car out right, but I want her to earn something towards it so she appreciates it.